[SirFozzie]

I actually give Jon a lot of credit. I'm fairly sure he knows his opinions aren't among the majority here, but he presents them openly, up front and doesn't pretend to be someone else than he is.

In all our arguments, I think we've never convinced each other on much of anything, but at least it's got to a respectful level where we know we're not going to agree, and rather than spend tons of vitriol and virtual anger with each other for no effect, we just say "Yeah, that's (Jon/Foz) for you."