The Trump Presidency - Chapter 2

[NobodyHere]

I voted for Kamala, don't blame me that she was a terrible candidate.

[cuervo72]

Ah, time to add to that list.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I voted for Kamala, don't blame me that she was a terrible candidate.

That's fine, but show me some sort of evidence that the GOP doesn't pick people based on race and genitals. I'll wait.

[Brian Swartz]

Yeah, I have many issues with Harris, but this isn't one of them. The DEI complaints make sense in some limited circumstances where it's a changing history stand-in for example, but the idea that Republicans somehow aren't selecting people for anything on race/gender is absurd. There's also no good reason to think that's why Trump won.

[RainMaker]

I'm sure all those 30 year old lifetime federal judges that were being nominated with no experience were based on merit.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Then maybe your party shouldn't of pinned their hopes on a DEI hire.

Just say black. It's OK.

[NobodyHere]

The Republicans are selecting people based on who can win.

That's why they're winning.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Just say black. It's OK.

I don't remember Joe saying he picked Kamala because of her race.

[RainMaker]

She was also picked to be the VP and they won. Her selection for President was mostly a hailmary after the Democrats plans to cover up Biden's mental decline became public. She never would have been the nominee through any sort of democratic process.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

The Republicans are selecting people based on who can win.

That's why they're winning.

Well except for the previous election.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Well except for the previous election.

You can live in the past if you want.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

The Republicans are selecting people based on who can win.

That's why they're winning.

So it's ok to pick based on race and gender if you win? Unless you still insist that's not what the GOP does.

Trump's cabinet also isn't voted on. He selects them and they've been almost entirely white males in both administrations. But I'm sure that's only because they were the most qualified. Like Gaetz, Hegseth, his personal attorneys, etc. Donalds and Scott will be thankful to know that the fact that they're black had nothing to do with them not being selected for VP or any other administration position.

[Brian Swartz]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

The Republicans are selecting people based on who can win.

Harris was also selected based on who they thought would win. So again, no difference there.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

Harris was also selected based on who they thought would win. So again, no difference there.

So maybe one of those thought processes were wrong.

[Brian Swartz]

That's true in literally every election no matter what happens. Only one candidate wins. This lacks what you might call a point.

Serious question; are you posting under the influence of ... shall we say ... any adult substances?

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

You can live in the past if you want.

So are you complaining about the VP or not? Cause they won after she was what you describe as a DEI hire.

[JPhillips]

dola

Hegseth's lawyer says that Hegseth paid the woman who accused him of sexual assault and that there's an NDA. He denies assault, but that sure does look bad.

[NobodyHere]

Im just a terrible person. You all are right. I,m Wrong.

I'm sorry to bother you.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Then maybe your party shouldn't of pinned their hopes on a DEI hire.

She was a successful prosecutor, she was ELECTED AG of the most populous state, she was Elected Senator of California, she was elected as VP as part of a ticket with Biden.

She is beyond qualified and way more qualified than anyone in Trumps orbit.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Lathum

She was a successful prosecutor, she was ELECTED AG of the most populous state, she was Elected Senator of California, she was elected as VP as part of a ticket with Biden.

She is beyond qualified and way more qualified than anyone in Trumps orbit.

Look,

You win, I don't know anything.

Have fun win your winning candidate.

[Racer]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Biden and Cheney were different, but almost every VP in the past 60 years has been an identity pick.

Vance - young men
Harris - black women
Pence - white evangelicals

There's very little for the VP to do, so it's normal to pick a candidate who helps shore up a particular demographic. This absolutely happens with male candidates.

Originally Posted by Lathum

She was a successful prosecutor, she was ELECTED AG of the most populous state, she was Elected Senator of California, she was elected as VP as part of a ticket with Biden.

She is beyond qualified and way more qualified than anyone in Trumps orbit.

I think both of these are true. Harris was picked in 2020 by Biden because she was both a woman of color and highly qualified.

Most Vice President picks now days are "DEI" picks because they are usually chosen to balance the ticket.

Tim Walz was certainly a DEI choice. Harris was almost certainly going to pick a white male to balance the ticket. Was Tim Walz an unqualified vice president pick? I don't think so.

[Racer]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

She was also picked to be the VP and they won. Her selection for President was mostly a hailmary after the Democrats plans to cover up Biden's mental decline became public. She never would have been the nominee through any sort of democratic process.

This is impossible to say.

If Biden had decided much sooner not to run for a 2nd term there would have been a Democratic primary.

Harris would have potentially had a big visibility advantage by being the sitting vice president. over other potential candidates such as Gavin Newsome, Gretchen Whitmer, Josh Shapiro, Mark Kelly, and Cory Booker. It's impossible to say for sure who is the Democratic nominee for president in that hypothetical scenario.