POTUS 2024 - Harris vs Trump - General Election Discussion

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

I think Michigan is still in play, if Wayne County maintains %'s that's 193k for her, only behind 163k.

Clinton won that city by over 200k votes, Philly has her running 3-1 on him in the cities, if that holds it'd be enough. Just not sure Wisconsin has enough left for her, even if Philly can somehow bail her out in PA.

[RainMaker]

Kamala was behind Andrew Yang in the polls in 2020. She's the historically bad candidate.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

I agree, although my math says if the current rate continues she only gets another 130k from Wayne.

Yeah that last chunk wasn't good for her, 25% lead to an 19% one, she probably needs to be over 60% there but at 58 while Biden was up at 68. That R shift in cities is one of the stories of the night to me.

[Young Drachma]

Harris sent the crowd at Howard home for the night.

[RainMaker]

Who would have guessed lying about Biden’s cognitive health for 2 yrs, refusing to do an open convention for a new nominee,
never mentioning public healthcare & embracing fracking,
the Cheneys & a yr long slaughter of children in Gaza wouldn’t be a winning strategy?
1/

— Adam McKay (@ZombiePanther2) November 6, 2024

[Solecismic]

At this point, Trump has outperformed his percentages in 63 of 67 Pennsylvania counties. I don't think there's enough left in Philadelphia for Harris, but I think Casey has a chance - that one could well end up in recount territory.

[Young Drachma]

The Dems not being able to translate a billion dollars into turnout will surely be talked about. Harris didn't have the Obama skill, Biden would've been worse, but I don't think the 90s Third Way types will learn from this, they'll just point fingers.

[Brian Swartz]

- Georgia's been called.

- Margin in PA is over 200k. Philly should bring in another 100k margin roughly for Harris, but I don't think there's enough vote left for a realistic chance.

- Margin in Michigan is 220k+, pretty much same story there.

- Wisconsin hasn't improved, even Nevada looking Trumpy.

I'm facing facts and giving up at this point. Without being at all blasphemous, God help America, because we haven't the good judgement to help ourselves.

[Front Office Midget]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

You can't cry about fascism and democracy in peril and then do a bunch of stuff that show you don't actually give a shit about either. Just take the L, you all were wrong.

What does "you all were wrong" mean exactly? I voted for Kamala Harris because she is a better candidate and obviously better person than Donald Trump. I expected her to lose to Trump because I have heard so much negativity about her from the left.

But this is the process we were given. And I'm sorry you can't tell the difference between the policies of the two potential administrations.

Will this be the wake up call the Democratic Party needs? Highly doubtful, seeing as how little changed after 2016, 2004, or 2000... But I would take it over being represented to the world by an anti-intellectual misogynistic narcisisst xenophobe who wages trade wars and wouldn't mind crashing the entire economy to wage war at the idea of free movement of human peoples and other basic "American" ideals.

And there is a huge world of difference on environment and healthcare between the two parties. Obviously the Dems are not perfect (or even good?) on those issues, but I would at least prefer to HAVE an EPA and a public health option.

Hopefully we all sent a loud message to Genocide Joe and hopefully it was worth it. lol

[Solecismic]

Starting to see Pennsylvania called in places. That will do it.