Fantasy Football Advice - Who to keep?

Blade · 06-29-2005, 10:05 AM

Alright,

My keeper deadline is coming up in the Fantasy Football league I am in and I have a tough choice to make. I have one keeper spot still open, and it has to go to either Michael Bennett or Lee Suggs. Who should I keep?

rkmsuf · 06-29-2005, 10:11 AM

Suggs

neither is great but Bennett is a walking injury.

Mustang · 06-29-2005, 10:33 AM

What are your other options? Any?

Samdari · 06-29-2005, 10:35 AM

I've heard that Bennett is not really even being seriously considered for the starting spot, and in any case is far less likely to be a starting running back than Suggs.

gottimd · 06-29-2005, 10:37 AM

Ouch, that is a tough decision. Both will be platooned at best in a corp of RB's. Cleveland has 5 RB's on the roster including Droughns, W.Green. Rkmsuf is right about the injuries to Bennett though, he is Mr. Glass. Who else are you cutting?

Blade · 06-29-2005, 10:46 AM

Basically, my team stands at:

QB: Pennington, Roethlisberger
RB: Bennett, Suggs, Thomas Jones, C. Brown, M. Moore
WR: Chambers, A. Davis, Lloyd, Pinkston
TE: Gonzalez, T. Jones
K: Akers, Cundiff
Def: Giants, Miami

From this team, I can keep 3 players, and one more player between Thomas Jones and Chris Brown. This is a 16 team league, so talent is at a premium.

Right now, my thoughts were to keep Roethlisberger, Brown, Gonzalez, and either Suggs or Bennett.

Mustang · 06-29-2005, 10:51 AM

umm..

hmm..

wow..

Do you HAVE to keep someone? All your RB's have question marks.. injury or playing time.

I'd be more prone to keep Pennington over Roethlisberger.. both are mid-range QBs IMO.. probably Pennington, Brown, Gonzalez and ahh.. hmm...

Help, anyone?

Blade · 06-29-2005, 10:54 AM

I don't have to keep anyone, but not keeping anyone doesn't provide me any benefit. So, I figure I might as well hold on to someone, and come draft time if I can pick up a better player, so be it.

Yah, I know. I inherited the team and have had a hell of a time trying to rebuild it.

Tigercat · 06-29-2005, 11:03 AM

Pennington, Brown, Gonzales, and Chambers would be my suggestion.

Mustang · 06-29-2005, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade

Yah, I know. I inherited the team and have had a hell of a time trying to rebuild it.

Whew.. good.

flere-imsaho · 06-29-2005, 11:33 AM

In a FF league where you get a draft-related benefit for not keeping anyone, I'm not keeping anyone on this team.

If you get no benefit from keeping no one, however, here are some suggestions:

WR A. Davis - if that's Andre Davis from the Texans, I'd keep him in this scenario. He's the Texans #1, put up good numbers last year, and if they ever figure out the O-Line he & Carr could be quite productive. He's pretty durable, too.

TE Gonzalez - Normally one wouldn't care, but since you're not being penalized, you might as well keep a guy who consistently produces at the TE position.

K Akers - Solves your K needs right away.

rkmsuf · 06-29-2005, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

In a FF league where you get a draft-related benefit for not keeping anyone, I'm not keeping anyone on this team.

If you get no benefit from keeping no one, however, here are some suggestions:

WR A. Davis - if that's Andre Davis from the Texans, I'd keep him in this scenario. He's the Texans #1, put up good numbers last year, and if they ever figure out the O-Line he & Carr could be quite productive. He's pretty durable, too.

TE Gonzalez - Normally one wouldn't care, but since you're not being penalized, you might as well keep a guy who consistently produces at the TE position.

K Akers - Solves your K needs right away.

I'm a big fan of the Texans Andre Davis. He's so fast you can't even see him out there.

Travis · 06-29-2005, 02:03 PM

Just to clarify on Blades post (I'm in the same league). It's a 16 team league where you can keep 3 players from your end of season roster, then an additional player acquired in the off season via trade (to encourage owners to interact). If you keep less than the maximum amount, you get supplemental picks (I think starting in the 4th round).

That said, and with bearing to the advice given here, my general assumption is that each team will keep a QB, 2 RB and a WR or TE in most cases. Some teams may keep 2 QB, others 2 WR, some 3 RB, but I figure it'll average out to 15-20 QB's, 30-35 RB's, 15-20 WR's and 2-3 TE's off the board before the first pick in this year's draft.

Last year was the first year we went with 16 teams (used to be a split, one 10 team league, one 8 team league, so we merged, each team got 2 keepers, then we did a very long draft).

I can't remember for sure, but I'm pretty sure Blade doesn't have a 1st rounder right now (dealt for Brown I think), but was looking to move back into the first in a pick package deal. So his current likelyhood of picking up one of this year's rookie crop or one of the rising stock (Lamont Jordan type) guys is currently low. Also, I'm relatively sure that it's Clevelands A. Davis, not the Texans.

I still personally think Bennett is the higher reward guy, going into a contract year, IF he manages to stay healthy, I think he could stranglehold the starters job. Suggs should be good, but I'd imagine that Droughns and Green will steal more carries than Moore, Williams and the rookie.

mckerney · 06-29-2005, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samdari

I've heard that Bennett is not really even being seriously considered for the starting spot, and in any case is far less likely to be a starting running back than Suggs.

Not sure where you heard this, but as long as he's healthy I'd be shocked if Bennett weren't the starter.

rkmsuf · 06-29-2005, 02:51 PM

I also heard they were not real high on Bennett.

mckerney · 06-29-2005, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

I'm a big fan of the Texans Andre Davis. He's so fast you can't even see him out there.

eh, I'm a bigger fan of Andre Johnson...

flere-imsaho · 06-29-2005, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

I'm a big fan of the Texans Andre Davis. He's so fast you can't even see him out there.

Bah! :o

gottimd · 06-29-2005, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

I'm a big fan of the Texans Andre Davis. He's so fast you can't even see him out there.

If you can't see him out there, then what is the point of him being there....the QB would throw blindly into the secondary, but I guess in some cases, that is what I think some NFL Qb's do anyways.

rkmsuf · 06-29-2005, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gottimd

If you can't see him out there, then what is the point of him being there....the QB would throw blindly into the secondary, but I guess in some cases, that is what I think some NFL Qb's do anyways.

It's all timing son.

Desnudo · 06-29-2005, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

It's all timing son.

Here he is working on his 40 time.

rkmsuf · 06-29-2005, 03:02 PM

That boy's good....he good.

Blade · 06-29-2005, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis

Also, I'm relatively sure that it's Clevelands A. Davis, not the Texans.

Yep...Cleveland's A. Davis.

WSUCougar · 06-29-2005, 03:21 PM

Depending upon how important kickers are in your league, Akers is an ace.

Also, Pinkston might be a sleeper worth considering, what with T.O. possibly a hold-out and MotorMouth gone.

Ryche · 06-29-2005, 03:29 PM

My feeling is that Bennett will not be the starter for more than 4 games this year. I really like Mewelde Moore and think he's going to win the starting job out of training camp. Fason could very well see some significant time as well if he plays well enough.

Tigercat · 06-29-2005, 03:29 PM

Is there something wrong with Chambers that I don't know about? I can't image more people not suggesting him. I would expect him to get 800-1100 yards this year and 6-10 TDs. Even the low ranges there, which would be less than his career averages, aren't bad. He would be a good keep to me, unless he broke both legs in the offseason and I don't know about it.

TwinCitiesFan · 06-29-2005, 07:48 PM

Bennett will be the starter this year, but once again he won't be a TD maker. So is he really worth it? It still smells like the dreaded RB by committee!!!

Celeval · 06-29-2005, 08:02 PM

Consider keeping Pennington and Roeth? Then dealing one later on?

sterlingice · 06-29-2005, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celeval

Consider keeping Pennington and Roeth? Then dealing one later on?

Yeah, but that's tough in an NFL league, to not have two RBs. This is why I'm strongly in favor of leagues that require both 2 starting QBs and 2 starting RBs. Otherwise, there's a huge premium on RBs and almost none on QBs since there are 30 starters of each in the NFL (fullbacks not really included, maybe Mike Alstott or another TD taker on a good year) but you need twice as many of one for the league.

SI

mckerney · 06-29-2005, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwinCitiesFan

Bennett will be the starter this year, but once again he won't be a TD maker. So is he really worth it? It still smells like the dreaded RB by committee!!!

That's what will likely happen if he stays healthy. He was a 1200 yard back while healthy, and Kleinsasser is back which should help the run game out greatly. I don't think Moe Williams has what it takes to be a 20+ carry a game guy, though he'll still be effective, it's doubtful Fason will start as a rookie, and Moore has durability concerns. Bennett has been working with the first team so far I believe and the job is his to lose at this point.

jamesUMD · 06-29-2005, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celeval

Consider keeping Pennington and Roeth? Then dealing one later on?

I agree with Celeval. Keep these 2 and Gonzalez. There's nothing keeping you from redrafting Akers if he is unprotected so I would let him hang loose for the time being. I always try to draft the highest rated player at a position rather trying to draft the highest rated player left from a position that other teams are making a run on.

06-29-2005, 10:11 AM	#2
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Suggs neither is great but Bennett is a walking injury. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

06-29-2005, 10:33 AM	#3
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	What are your other options? Any? __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

06-29-2005, 10:35 AM	#4
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06-29-2005, 10:37 AM	#5
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Ouch, that is a tough decision. Both will be platooned at best in a corp of RB's. Cleveland has 5 RB's on the roster including Droughns, W.Green. Rkmsuf is right about the injuries to Bennett though, he is Mr. Glass. Who else are you cutting? __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

06-29-2005, 10:46 AM	#6
Blade College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Edmonton, Alberta	Basically, my team stands at: QB: Pennington, Roethlisberger RB: Bennett, Suggs, Thomas Jones, C. Brown, M. Moore WR: Chambers, A. Davis, Lloyd, Pinkston TE: Gonzalez, T. Jones K: Akers, Cundiff Def: Giants, Miami From this team, I can keep 3 players, and one more player between Thomas Jones and Chris Brown. This is a 16 team league, so talent is at a premium. Right now, my thoughts were to keep Roethlisberger, Brown, Gonzalez, and either Suggs or Bennett. __________________ Just trying to get by unnoticed... Loyal fan of the Edmonton Oilers and Philadelphia Eagles.

06-29-2005, 10:51 AM	#7
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	umm.. hmm.. wow.. Do you HAVE to keep someone? All your RB's have question marks.. injury or playing time. I'd be more prone to keep Pennington over Roethlisberger.. both are mid-range QBs IMO.. probably Pennington, Brown, Gonzalez and ahh.. hmm... Help, anyone? __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its... Last edited by Mustang : 06-29-2005 at 10:52 AM.

06-29-2005, 10:54 AM	#8
Blade College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Edmonton, Alberta	I don't have to keep anyone, but not keeping anyone doesn't provide me any benefit. So, I figure I might as well hold on to someone, and come draft time if I can pick up a better player, so be it. Yah, I know. I inherited the team and have had a hell of a time trying to rebuild it. __________________ Just trying to get by unnoticed... Loyal fan of the Edmonton Oilers and Philadelphia Eagles.

06-29-2005, 11:03 AM	#9
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	Pennington, Brown, Gonzales, and Chambers would be my suggestion.

06-29-2005, 11:33 AM	#11
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	In a FF league where you get a draft-related benefit for not keeping anyone, I'm not keeping anyone on this team. If you get no benefit from keeping no one, however, here are some suggestions: WR A. Davis - if that's Andre Davis from the Texans, I'd keep him in this scenario. He's the Texans #1, put up good numbers last year, and if they ever figure out the O-Line he & Carr could be quite productive. He's pretty durable, too. TE Gonzalez - Normally one wouldn't care, but since you're not being penalized, you might as well keep a guy who consistently produces at the TE position. K Akers - Solves your K needs right away.

06-29-2005, 02:03 PM	#13
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	Just to clarify on Blades post (I'm in the same league). It's a 16 team league where you can keep 3 players from your end of season roster, then an additional player acquired in the off season via trade (to encourage owners to interact). If you keep less than the maximum amount, you get supplemental picks (I think starting in the 4th round). That said, and with bearing to the advice given here, my general assumption is that each team will keep a QB, 2 RB and a WR or TE in most cases. Some teams may keep 2 QB, others 2 WR, some 3 RB, but I figure it'll average out to 15-20 QB's, 30-35 RB's, 15-20 WR's and 2-3 TE's off the board before the first pick in this year's draft. Last year was the first year we went with 16 teams (used to be a split, one 10 team league, one 8 team league, so we merged, each team got 2 keepers, then we did a very long draft). I can't remember for sure, but I'm pretty sure Blade doesn't have a 1st rounder right now (dealt for Brown I think), but was looking to move back into the first in a pick package deal. So his current likelyhood of picking up one of this year's rookie crop or one of the rising stock (Lamont Jordan type) guys is currently low. Also, I'm relatively sure that it's Clevelands A. Davis, not the Texans. I still personally think Bennett is the higher reward guy, going into a contract year, IF he manages to stay healthy, I think he could stranglehold the starters job. Suggs should be good, but I'd imagine that Droughns and Green will steal more carries than Moore, Williams and the rookie.

06-29-2005, 02:51 PM	#15
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	I also heard they were not real high on Bennett. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

06-29-2005, 03:02 PM	#21
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	That boy's good....he good. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales Last edited by rkmsuf : 06-29-2005 at 03:02 PM.

06-29-2005, 03:21 PM	#23
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Depending upon how important kickers are in your league, Akers is an ace. Also, Pinkston might be a sleeper worth considering, what with T.O. possibly a hold-out and MotorMouth gone. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

06-29-2005, 03:29 PM	#24
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	My feeling is that Bennett will not be the starter for more than 4 games this year. I really like Mewelde Moore and think he's going to win the starting job out of training camp. Fason could very well see some significant time as well if he plays well enough. __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

06-29-2005, 07:48 PM	#26
TwinCitiesFan n00b Join Date: Aug 2004	Bennett will be the starter this year, but once again he won't be a TD maker. So is he really worth it? It still smells like the dreaded RB by committee!!!

06-29-2005, 08:02 PM	#27
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Consider keeping Pennington and Roeth? Then dealing one later on?

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