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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
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GroupThink 3 - Kitty Hawk, 2023
GroupThink 3 – Kitty Hawk Flyers
We’re up to the year 2023, our fourth with this franchise. We cleaned house in 2020, and posted the franchise’s first winning season in five seasons. Our second year, in 2021, we made it all the way into the league championship game, despite serious injuries (including once again a QB injury for the playoffs). In 2022, we kicked the door in with a sloppy, messy championship earned over a muddy field – and cashed in for the franchise’s first title. Here’s the official snapshot of our franchise history under our management: Code:
If you are inclined to follow along, you may download the files below (the annual stat files are contained in the first update of each year – and will require some digging, I fear). Even without the files, all are quite welcome to join in the discussions and voice your thoughts or support. Here are the house rules that we have been following: PLAYER ACQUISITIONS -Players other than undrafted rookies may only be acquired during the draft and the 20-stage FA process -No initiating trades, other than tades during the draft involving current year's picks only -Team may respond to trade offers that pass the standard fairness test (alter and confirm) -Team may not accept a first round draft pick in trade for a reserve player -Every FA offer to a player requesting any bonus (not including current team members) must include a signing bonus at least as large as the highest year's salary -Team may make unlimited FA offers before the first week of free agency, and then no more than two more offers before the end of the FA process ROSTER MANAGEMENT -Team may not renegotiate or extend any player contracts -Team may not enter the regular season with a chemistry conflict -All positional team leaders must be starters for the team, except for “meaningless” games -Positional team leaders must get playing time of 3 -All positional team leaders must receive at least a qualifying offer from the team for a new contract FINANCES -Ticket prices for each level must remain below the average of two closest teams, geographically -If team runs an operating deficit, the following year the team must remain 10% under the salary cap -The preceding effect is cumulative - two running annual deficits require staying 20% below cap, etc. -Cannot have both scout and coach in the top ten salaries of the league ACCOUNTABILITY -A coach with a losing record the season his contract expires can not be rehired -Last place in the division gets the coach fired (unless it is his first year with the team) -Last place in the conference gets the "starting" QB sacked (unless he is in his first 3 seasons) -Last place in the league gets the coach, starting QB, and scout canned. Can the Flyers repeat as champions? Who will follow the “one and out” path to retirement now that they are owners of championship rings? What financial restrictions will we be under this year? There are always questions for every team – and we have many ahead for this one. |
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10-19-2003, 08:13 PM
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lolzcat
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
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Here is the first of two file updates.
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10-19-2003, 08:13 PM
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lolzcat
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
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Second file update.
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10-19-2003, 08:18 PM
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lolzcat
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
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Financial Update
For the year 2021, we managed to get our finances into the black, and escape from the salary cap penalty that we endured. It was quite uncertain, however, whether we would be able to remain in the good for the 2022 season, despite our on-field successes. As the season tallied up, we knew that our outlays for player bonuses would be up – and were uncertain if that might trigger another austere year. In the final anaysis, our bonus spending was up, by over $26 million—that’s more than our entire profit for the 2021 season. However, we had two good elements in our financial plan—a decent increase in ticket sales (about $33m increase) and a significant drop in our scouting costs, by about $19 million. With all those moving parts – put it together and we ended up with a $26.6 million profit for the 2022 season – not a grand success in the big picture, but enough to keep up out from under the self-imposed financial penalties that we might have faced. Well done, everyone – we can keep the checkbook open for the coming year! Last edited by QuikSand : 10-20-2003 at 12:38 PM. |
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10-19-2003, 08:34 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: North Carolina
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Well, if we are not under the 10% cap, let me be the first to walk into the GM's office on Monday morning at 8:05 AM and say WE NEED TO KEEP BORDANO.
Thank You. Last edited by albionmoonlight : 10-19-2003 at 08:40 PM. |
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10-19-2003, 08:37 PM
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Location: North Carolina
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Might we consider asking the kind folk of Kitty Hawk to get us some new turf, too? We need to keep our DL healthy, and old sod is not helping.
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10-19-2003, 08:41 PM
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lolzcat
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
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Player Transactions Update
We have suffered only one player retirement, that of FB Rondell Kowalski. Kowalski was deliberately brought in to provide some veteran leadership to what was a pretty young backfield, and the plan worked. He filled his role as blocking back and occasional utility back well, and got along great with our workhorse runner, Daniel Finley. The good news is that with the departure of Kowalski, the leadership mantle in our backfield falls to our young and rising star fullback, Earnest Rubble. Rubble will now assume the starting role, and his presence on the field can potentially increase significantly. As a second-team all-pro in each of his three seasons with us, Rubble has shown versatile skills as a powerful inside runner and effective outlet receiver – and even a solid target over the middle from an H-back or down-tight position. Rubble’s assumption of the backfield leadership role gives us no problems at all – he gets along particularly well with young receiver Kendrick Ellison, and also with veteran free agent WR Kenneth Carr – and is neutral with everyone else currently on the backfield roster, including other free agents we might consider re-signing. |
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10-19-2003, 08:45 PM
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lolzcat
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
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Here’s a snapshot of our current salary situation:
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The first thing that ought to leap off the page is that our entire secondary is sitting without a contract. our starting two corners, our starting two safeties, and our top backups at both positions – every single guy is out of contract. Whoa. We’ll also have to consider seriously what to do with RB R.J. Harden, who has developed into a pretty mighty force in our running game – and we have a chance (since he is restricted) to wait out for a pretty advantageous contract with him. Those look, to me, like our biggest issues among the players coming off last year’s roster. |
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10-19-2003, 08:50 PM
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lolzcat
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
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Player Injury Update
Nobody comes into the season technically injured, but CB Luther Duran, one of only three DBs currently signed, was devastated by his injuries last season, and has clearly lost a step. So, we almost certainly cannot count on him to provide quality returning or backup CB duty for the coming year, as we might have hoped prior to his misfortune. |
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10-19-2003, 08:55 PM
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Some notes:
Good news: FB Kowalski finally retired. Rubble is now the backfield leader. Bad news: TE Diana didn't. Good news: Heath Sparks, Ethan Francis, Buddy Middleton, and Larry Wylie are all under contract for this year. Cheap. Bad news: The Super Bowl winning coach, Dixon Rivers, is out of contract. Good news: Winning the Super Bowl did wonders for our fan support. Bad news: They city of Austin, Texas has put together a very attractive package for relocating the team. Well, except for the fact that they would want us to change the name of the team to the Austin Dellmakers. However, contracts with Kitty Hawk make it difficult to move. Good news: We won the Super Bowl!!! Bad news: We have a lot of talented players hitting the free agent market after a Super Bowl win.
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10-19-2003, 09:21 PM
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Lethargic Hooligan
Join Date: Oct 2000
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It is a shame Harden is a FA. There is no way we can resign him, and he will be hard to replace.
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10-20-2003, 05:39 AM
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With the number of good running backs that have been available in the draft the past two years, I wouldn't worry TOO much.
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10-20-2003, 05:41 AM
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Lethargic Hooligan
Join Date: Oct 2000
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He complemented Finley well. Hard to know if the next guy will.
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10-20-2003, 06:59 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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Coaches:
As a member of the Coach Scouting Committe I offer the following candidates for consideration. At this time I offer no recommendation as each coach has strengths and weaknesses that place them in equivalent stead in my mind. Dixon Rivers - Age = 39 Record = 39-17 Playoffs = 3 Bowl Wins = 1 3 Years - $4,160,000 QB - Fair RB - Very Good WR - Fair OL - Fair K - Fair DL - Avg LB - Good DB - Very Good Youth - Good Motivation - Fair Discipline - Good O Playcall - Good D Playcall - Very Good Injury Avoidance - Good Billy Eads - Age = 59 Record = 0-0 Playoffs = 0 Bowl Wins = 0 3 Years - $4,850,000 QB - Avg RB - Good WR - Good OL - Avg K - Avg DL - Avg LB - Avg DB - Good Youth - Very Good Motivation - Avg Discipline - Avg O Playcall - Avg D Playcall - Good Injury Avoidance - Avg Fernando Watson - Age = 56 Record = 0 Playoffs = 0 Bowl Wins = 0 3 Years - $5,020,000 QB - Fair RB - Avg WR - Fair OL - Avg K - Good DL - Very Good LB - Avg DB - Avg Youth - Avg Motivation - Good Discipline - Avg O Playcall - Avg D Playcall - Very Good Injury Avoidance - Very Good Brady "Che" Guevara - Age = 64 Record = 175-170-2 Playoffs = 6 Bowl Wins = 0 3 Years - $4,460,000 QB - Very Good RB - Avg WR - Good OL - Avg K - Avg DL - Avg LB - Poor DB - Poor Youth - Avg Motivation - Good Discipline - Good O Playcall - Avg D Playcall - Avg Injury Avoidance - Very Good
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10-20-2003, 07:22 AM
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Lethargic Hooligan
Join Date: Oct 2000
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I would liek to keep Mister Rivers on. We almost have to give him an offer after our Championship run, don't you think?
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10-20-2003, 07:37 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
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I would think so. At 39, he was the youngest coach ever to win a title. I think he should get an offer from us, at least - we'll see whether he wants to stick around. |
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10-20-2003, 07:48 AM
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Lethargic Hooligan
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing
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Looking at the O, I would offer the following:
Harden would be nice to keep. If K-Carr makes it through FA untouched and does not want a fortune he ought to get an offer. We dont need him though. Wayne might drop through FA and would be a good pickup. I know it seems like a waste to have him as a #3, but situationally he has helped a bunch. In hindsight I should have used him in a few more sets. Everyone else not under contract can start packing.
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10-20-2003, 07:53 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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At this point, before we launch further into the next season - maybe it's time for a pause to reflect. We've had at least six people pretty actively involved with this process thus far - a few with specifically identified roles, and others filling in and complementing as we went along. If there's interest, now might be a good time to see if we want to shuffle things up a little bit.
If anyone would like to assume the role that I have been playing (something like General Manager, I suppose), feel free to step up and claim it -- I'd be happy to slide into a more supporting role here. I have spoken with our current Offensive and Defensive Coordinators, and they both feel the same way -- so if anyone is interesting in assuming control of some of the gameplanning and simming, here's a chance to do so. I think that albionmoonlight, Fritz, and I are all committed to sticking around and remaining on the team... but if someone else wants a chance to get more "hands on" in this project, we'd all welcome that interest. Any takers? |
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10-20-2003, 09:12 AM
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Location: North Carolina
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To add on to what QS says--the fact that our entire secondary is up for FA makes this an exciting and scary time for a potential new DC. Scary because we don't know what we will have on opening day. Exciting because we have the opportunity to completely change the D philosophy with little trouble. We started playing a blitz heavy M2M and BnR defense because that played to the strength of the players we had in the secondary. We then picked up new players to fit into that system, making our preference that much more concrete.
Now, however, if someone wants to implement a cover-2 bend but don't break type of D, we can pick up a secondary that plays to that strength and won't have pieces to the puzzle that don't fit. No matter whether someone wants to take over as DC, or whether I stay as DC, it will be an interesting discussion to have before FA begins. |
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10-20-2003, 09:38 AM
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Lethargic Hooligan
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing
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The O is almost turnkey this season, unless we cut. QBs are in place. The real question is WR depth past 1, and perhaps some OL battles.
I would sugest we use the favorable situation to be opportunistic about building for the future on O and giving all we can to keep the D in shape. As far as my role in the project goes, I am open to anything.
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10-20-2003, 09:46 AM
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Honestly, I'd prefer to keep my role. With time constraints of a job and family, the scout position suits me well. Also, I'd hate to have to follow in Fritz's or Albion's footsteps.
 However, I'm open to changing if someone else wants a shot at the scouting role.
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10-20-2003, 10:02 AM
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Lethargic Hooligan
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Okay, what prompted this was big fight between albionmoonlight and me. Albion not so politely indicated that he thinks I don't know shit about the passing game. I, of course, said nothing to provoke this comment.
Well buddy boy, if you think you can do any better than a #1 scoring O, be my guest. The D should be no worse in your absence.
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10-20-2003, 10:05 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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Well, considering I just came on board last season, I don't feel quite ready for too large a role. I like being involved in scouting/roster suggestions, but don't feel qualified game-plan wise (something I need to work on in my other career). So like Buzzbee I'm pretty comfortable where I am right now as well.
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10-20-2003, 10:10 AM
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I say you guys swap then. |
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10-20-2003, 10:30 AM
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If you guys are seriously quarelling, then I second the suggestion to switch. Might do some good to see how the other half lives.
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10-20-2003, 10:43 AM
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Location: North Carolina
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Since when has Fritz ever been serious  My complaints with him have all been focused on his personal hygiene (or lack thereof); I have no complaints with how he runs the Offense. Besides, I know enough to know that I don't want to be on the wrong side of a Fritzing. So, unless someone has been logging in as me and sending PMs to Fritz on my behalf dissing the offense (I would suspect Sault Ste. Marie of such underhanded tactics), I think we are fine. I stand by my comments that a healthy man should not smell like Fritz does, but he is a hell of an OC. It might be kind of cool to switch, though. See how the other half lives and all that. If none of the lurkers want to take over as OC, DC, or GM, it might be neat for me and stinky to simply do a little flip-flop. |
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10-20-2003, 10:51 AM
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Lethargic Hooligan
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If I had any real issues with someone I would keep them private.
Albionmoonlight and I had talked about switching after a few seasons when we first started, but wanted to give some others an opportunity to get more involved. Also, I wouldn't smell so bad if Albionmoonlight's mama weren't so easy.
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10-20-2003, 10:52 AM
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I suspected as much, which is why I prefaced my comments with "If you guys are seriously quarelling..." Yes, Fritz is rarely serious, but for those rare occasions when he is, I tend to walk on eggshells for fear of the aforementioned Fritzing.
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10-20-2003, 10:54 AM
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Hmmm....is this a new concept? An indirect Fritzing? Slamming Albion's mama by Fritzing Fritz. Interesting.
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10-20-2003, 11:07 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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So, nobody's stepping up to claim the GM role?
Okay, then... maybe we move onward with the staff hiring decisions - namely, I intend to make an offer to retain our current defending world champion coach, who is not asking for a big raise. Anyone have a different course of action to recommend? |
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10-20-2003, 11:08 AM
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I've been keeping up with the files at home, so I'll probably stick my head in once and a while this season with comments, questions, or suggestions. Hopefully I'll find the time to be regularly involved.
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10-20-2003, 11:08 AM
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must restrain myself and help get this back on track...
If nobody speaks up soon, I will turn the keys to the Mustang over to ALbion and have his Germlin taken to my shop for repairs.
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10-20-2003, 11:09 AM
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Also... we haven't put into our rules anything about the franchise tag - and it's obvious that we have a case there. To be honest, the reason I omitted it from my first draft of our rules is that I just never use it in my own games, and sometimes just forget that it's out there to be used.
In my opinion, eschewing the tag is completely consistent with the kind of player restrictions that we are already committed to - and that's what I'd recommend that we do. If we want Edgar Bordano to return to the team, I think we should have to make him an offer that outshines what he gets from other suitors. |
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10-20-2003, 11:12 AM
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You should definitely offer the coach a new contract.
In fact, I would say if he's just won the Super Bowl, you should have to offer him a contract. Perhaps you might want to make a house rule about that - maybe even expand it to playoff appearances.
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10-20-2003, 11:12 AM
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I agree on no franchise tag.
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10-20-2003, 11:13 AM
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heh, we only thought to add rules for what would happen if we stunk
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10-20-2003, 11:14 AM
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In regard to coaches, Mr. Rivers has certainly done well for the team. However, as a member of the Coach Search Committee it is my responsibility to recommend candidates that I feel are a good fit for the Kitty Hawk Flyers organiziation.
There are two coaches who are head and shoulders above the candidates submitted. However, given the financial constraints of being a small market team, they are simply not affordable. As a result, I submitted those coaches who fit within certain criteria - at least avg in injury avoidance, at least average in developing young talent, compare favorably to other coaches in the same wage range, and are willing to sign for under $6 mil a year. Of these, I feel Fernando Watson perhaps gives the team the best opportunities to succeed across the board. This does not diminish what Mr. Rivers has done for this organization, and a great deal of appreciation is due Mr. Rivers. However, it is my responsibility to ensure that the franchise gets the most value for the coaching dollar spent. Also note that I am not against Mr. Rivers returning to Kitty Hawk, but want ot make sure all options are explored. Thank you, Buzz Bee Chairman of the Kitty Hawk Coach Search Committe
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10-20-2003, 11:22 AM
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Gotta give Dix an offer. If he spurns us, then we look elsewhere.
(I like a team where the OC, DC, and scouts all decide whether to hire or fire the head coach.) |
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10-20-2003, 11:26 AM
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Oh, and since it looks like I am now OC, I march into the GM's office at 8:05 on Monday morning and state that WE CANNOT AFFORD TO KEEP BORDANO! We need priorities here!
 Actually, OC, DC, or No C, I say that (depending on the D that Fritz wants to run), we need to do what we can to keep the man around. If Fritz thinks he needs a shut down corner, we need look no farther than our own back yard. |
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10-20-2003, 11:27 AM
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Sorry Fernando, sounds like winning the superbowl means that you win out over superior talent.
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10-20-2003, 11:31 AM
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Considering that our pass defense was somewhat suspect last year, I say we cannot afford to let Bordano go.
Also, in regard to FA, we need to pay particular attention to the WR's we pick up. If we can find a young superstar with high leadership I think we should jump on them. Diana didn't retire, but with leadership of 64, we shoud be able to find our future starter out there somewhere. Also, Song has only two more years on his contract, so looking for his replacement now might be a good idea.
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10-20-2003, 11:31 AM
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Damn albion, what do you keep in your pants? This office chair is HOT.
---- We can let everybody go. With a #1 scoring offense to keep us alive there is no reason to be crippled by over priced players on D.
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10-20-2003, 12:09 PM
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Man Fritz, you don't know SHIT about the passing game. 
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10-20-2003, 12:56 PM
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By the way, in case anyone missed it, I uploaded a draft file for this season at the end of last season's thread.
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10-20-2003, 01:32 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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Notes from the new DC:
1.) The OC has a better office. Someone needs to get on this 2.) The Dline is fine with the guys who are left. Some rookie meat to fill it out will be fine. AML flirted with the idea of a 3-4, I want to see it happen now. 3.) Daniels is a stud, but we can drop him if needed. He gave us 9 games last season when we needed a 16 game guy. 4.) I feel good about the rest of the returning LB corp. No need to break our bank on FAs here. 5.) I like the D to start with a strong secondary, and ours is anything but. Someone cut Duran now. He is done. Devit and Hilliard will do. Lets Find a way to keep McNair. Hawkins must be tendered an offer. Bordano is a team favorite, but we can move on without him if we must. 6.) As we look through FA/Draft lets look for LBs with coverage ability and DBs that can play the run. Both should be able to play bump and run. Also look for punishing hitters.
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10-20-2003, 01:35 PM
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I say we cut Bordano loose. His bonus alone would probably screw the books for the entire year. We might also consider other players who might need to be extended down the road (just when does Buddy's contract end?). But I think defense might be the place to focus on in FA. But I'd rather have more than 1 quality player for that price.
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10-20-2003, 01:39 PM
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Oh, sure. And I suppose you'd like them to be able to wipe your butt as well. Anything ELSE you'd like them to do? Maybe a high car washing rating, a passable Good with the Media rating, or a stellar Stays Out of Trouble rating?
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10-20-2003, 01:45 PM
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Actually, I concur with Fritz and Cuervo. I'd rather have several above average guys than one superstar. Will give us flexibility and will also limit the damage if somebody goes down with injury.
However, I DO think we need to spend some $'s at the CB position to at least get someone with some serious skill. Perhaps two players for the money Bordano would've gotten.
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Just find us some guys with enough pop to knock the attitude out of you.
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10-20-2003, 01:50 PM
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A reason to find B&R guys is that they are often available. So a DB with ability in Run, B&R, and Punish is what I want. Not exactly what every other team is looking for. To a lesser degree we should choose to be man or zone. Here I am torn. Suggestions?
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