Wanted CM 03/04 + Ebay questions

Blackadar · 07-09-2004, 08:27 PM

I'm looking for a copy of CM 03/04. I could buy it from GoGamer for $45 shipped but I'm always looking for a bargain - especially on software older than 6 months.

I looked on Ebay and saw a bunch for $15 - all from Asia. Are these legal in the US? Do they play any differently or have any compatibility issues? I'm just a bit confused - I really don't want to order an asian copy if I can help it but I will if I can save 50%. I really don't need the manual.

P.S.> Does anyone have a copy that they'd like to sell instead?

PSUColonel · 07-09-2004, 08:50 PM

I currently own CM4, but never really got into it for some reason.(eben though I am VERY famailar with all of the other editions) I too am considering CM 03/04 and am wondering what the differences between the two are. any insight/comments welcome.

FrogMan · 07-09-2004, 09:21 PM

Blackadar, I remember someone from here getting a copy marked "FOR SALE IN THAILAND ONLY" or another country, while buying it from gogamer... let me fish for the thread...

FM

FrogMan · 07-09-2004, 09:24 PM

dola, got it, it was Senator who had that, and I'm pretty sure his copy is working nicely...

Here's the thread:
http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...ad.php?t=24175

Also, for what it's worth, I own the French version of CM4. That is, the box has the French title on it, the manual is in French, but when you install, you can install in whatever language you want. I'd assume it would be the same with an asian version...

FM

FrogMan · 07-09-2004, 09:26 PM

double dola, to Colonel, can't help you with the difference between both version as I only have CM4. Got it in the bargain bin around here. Next version I'll buy will be FM2005.

FM

ice4277 · 07-09-2004, 09:37 PM

Basically, CM 03/04 feels what CM4 should have felt like. It is much more polished and stable, and most of the odd things the game engine did have been fixed. I had a good time with CM4, but never felt quite right about some of the goings-on in the game. With 03/04, it just feels right.

PSUColonel · 07-09-2004, 09:38 PM

anyway to elaberate on that?

PSUColonel · 07-09-2004, 09:39 PM

even with the CM4 patch?

FrogMan · 07-09-2004, 09:42 PM

yes, ice4277, what, in particular, didn't feel right in CM4?

I'm curious, as CM4 is the first version of CM that I have ever bought and I'd like to know what I'm missing out on by not upgrading to CM03/04. Thanks in advance.

FM

McSweeny · 07-09-2004, 09:45 PM

i've played the last several versions of CM and always loved them and played them to death. CM4 came along and was a complete re-write of the engine and it didn't feel right. I couldn't really get into it for various reasons. Then i picked up CM 03/04 and it was like the CM i knew and loved. I haven't really stopped playing it to this day. It is a great game and far better than CM 4

ice4277 · 07-09-2004, 09:48 PM

FM,

One big issue was the morale bug. I don't know if there was ever a patch released that fixed it (I don't think there was) but basically, morale was skewed in favor of your team so that it was almost always 'excellent'. This would lead to your team consistently winning games very easily. I'm not sure if this was the only factor, but I stopped playing when I was undefeated 2 seasons in a row in the league, while losing just two games overall, both in Champions League. It made the game very boring after a while. Also, if I recall correctly, there was a problem with the match engine that heavily favored strikers in scoring goals. These problems have been generally cleared up, and overall, the game feels much tighter now. There were a couple other problems as well, I believe.

In your situation, you probably wouldn't even notice this, having never played the geam before. But I think that if you upgraded, you would notice a big difference. Hope that helps, probably not though

ice4277 · 07-09-2004, 09:48 PM

dola

Basically, what McSweeny said

FrogMan · 07-09-2004, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ice4277

FM,

One big issue was the morale bug. I don't know if there was ever a patch released that fixed it (I don't think there was) but basically, morale was skewed in favor of your team so that it was almost always 'excellent'. This would lead to your team consistently winning games very easily. I'm not sure if this was the only factor, but I stopped playing when I was undefeated 2 seasons in a row in the league, while losing just two games overall, both in Champions League. It made the game very boring after a while. Also, if I recall correctly, there was a problem with the match engine that heavily favored strikers in scoring goals. These problems have been generally cleared up, and overall, the game feels much tighter now. There were a couple other problems as well, I believe.

In your situation, you probably wouldn't even notice this, having never played the geam before. But I think that if you upgraded, you would notice a big difference. Hope that helps, probably not though

no, it does help. Maybe I would not see it at first, but I'd probably feel it after playing it for a little while. Anyway, the family budget is tight, so I won't be upgrading to 03/04, but I know what to expect for FM2005, which from everything I read should be amazing

Thanks again for answering.

FM

FrogMan · 07-09-2004, 09:53 PM

oh, and I don't know about the morale bug. I play as Luton Town in division 2, and I'm losing very, very often, always on the brink of relegation... hmmm, maybe I'm doing something wrong somewhere

FM

BreizhManu · 07-10-2004, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ice4277

FM,

One big issue was the morale bug. I don't know if there was ever a patch released that fixed it (I don't think there was) but basically, morale was skewed in favor of your team so that it was almost always 'excellent'. This would lead to your team consistently winning games very easily. I'm not sure if this was the only factor, but I stopped playing when I was undefeated 2 seasons in a row in the league, while losing just two games overall, both in Champions League. It made the game very boring after a while. Also, if I recall correctly, there was a problem with the match engine that heavily favored strikers in scoring goals. These problems have been generally cleared up, and overall, the game feels much tighter now. There were a couple other problems as well, I believe.

the morale bug was corrected with EP5

ice4277 · 07-10-2004, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BreizhManu

the morale bug was corrected with EP5

OK, I thought that may have been the case, but was it save-game compatible? I recall that my players all had maxed-out morale even after EP5. And if you know me as a CM player, you know it can't be because I am doing that well

07-09-2004, 09:21 PM	#3
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	Blackadar, I remember someone from here getting a copy marked "FOR SALE IN THAILAND ONLY" or another country, while buying it from gogamer... let me fish for the thread... FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

07-09-2004, 09:24 PM	#4
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	dola, got it, it was Senator who had that, and I'm pretty sure his copy is working nicely... Here's the thread: http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...ad.php?t=24175 Also, for what it's worth, I own the French version of CM4. That is, the box has the French title on it, the manual is in French, but when you install, you can install in whatever language you want. I'd assume it would be the same with an asian version... FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

07-09-2004, 09:26 PM	#5
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	double dola, to Colonel, can't help you with the difference between both version as I only have CM4. Got it in the bargain bin around here. Next version I'll buy will be FM2005. FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

07-09-2004, 09:42 PM	#9
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	yes, ice4277, what, in particular, didn't feel right in CM4? I'm curious, as CM4 is the first version of CM that I have ever bought and I'd like to know what I'm missing out on by not upgrading to CM03/04. Thanks in advance. FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

07-09-2004, 09:53 PM	#14
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	oh, and I don't know about the morale bug. I play as Luton Town in division 2, and I'm losing very, very often, always on the brink of relegation... hmmm, maybe I'm doing something wrong somewhere FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

07-09-2004, 08:50 PM	#2
PSUColonel Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wayne, PA	I currently own CM4, but never really got into it for some reason.(eben though I am VERY famailar with all of the other editions) I too am considering CM 03/04 and am wondering what the differences between the two are. any insight/comments welcome.

07-09-2004, 09:37 PM	#6
ice4277 Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkley, MI: The Hotbed of FOFC!	Basically, CM 03/04 feels what CM4 should have felt like. It is much more polished and stable, and most of the odd things the game engine did have been fixed. I had a good time with CM4, but never felt quite right about some of the goings-on in the game. With 03/04, it just feels right.

07-09-2004, 09:38 PM	#7
PSUColonel Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wayne, PA	anyway to elaberate on that?

07-09-2004, 09:39 PM	#8
PSUColonel Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wayne, PA	even with the CM4 patch?

07-09-2004, 09:45 PM	#10
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	i've played the last several versions of CM and always loved them and played them to death. CM4 came along and was a complete re-write of the engine and it didn't feel right. I couldn't really get into it for various reasons. Then i picked up CM 03/04 and it was like the CM i knew and loved. I haven't really stopped playing it to this day. It is a great game and far better than CM 4

07-09-2004, 09:48 PM	#11
ice4277 Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkley, MI: The Hotbed of FOFC!	FM, One big issue was the morale bug. I don't know if there was ever a patch released that fixed it (I don't think there was) but basically, morale was skewed in favor of your team so that it was almost always 'excellent'. This would lead to your team consistently winning games very easily. I'm not sure if this was the only factor, but I stopped playing when I was undefeated 2 seasons in a row in the league, while losing just two games overall, both in Champions League. It made the game very boring after a while. Also, if I recall correctly, there was a problem with the match engine that heavily favored strikers in scoring goals. These problems have been generally cleared up, and overall, the game feels much tighter now. There were a couple other problems as well, I believe. In your situation, you probably wouldn't even notice this, having never played the geam before. But I think that if you upgraded, you would notice a big difference. Hope that helps, probably not though

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