Poll: Where do FOFC'ers live?

Dutch · 12-31-2005, 08:35 PM

Just out of curiosity,

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Americans often speak of their country as one of several large regions. These regions are cultural units rather than governmental units -- formed by history and geography and shaped by the economics, literature and folkways that all the parts of a region share. What makes one region different from another? A region's multicultural heritage as well as distinct demographic characteristics like age and occupation also make regions different and special. Within several regions, language is used differently and there are strong dialects. There are also differences in outlook and attitude based on geography.

www.usinfo.pl/aboutusa/travel/regions.htm

STATES REGIONS

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New England - Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont

Mid Atlantic - Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania

The South - Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia

Midwest - Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota, Wisconsin

Southwest - Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas

West - Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Washington, Wyoming

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0770177.html

And Elsewhere = The World Minus the USA.

Hope that helps!

Pumpy Tudors · 12-31-2005, 08:40 PM

I don't know. I'm new here. Is Greensburg, PA, part of the Mid-Atlantic, or is it part of the Midwest?

terpkristin · 12-31-2005, 08:40 PM

Ashburn, VA REPRESENT!

/tk

Eaglesfan27 · 12-31-2005, 08:41 PM

I'm originally from the Mid-Atlantic, but now live in the South (in large part due to marrying a Southern Woman.)

cthomer5000 · 12-31-2005, 08:45 PM

By this breakdown, New England. Though I know no one who lives in New Jersey (myself included) would feel comfortable considering themselves part of the "New England" region.

Northeast would have been a better descriptor.

st.cronin · 12-31-2005, 08:48 PM

I think NJ is mid-atlantic. Mid-atlantic is New York to Maryland, imo.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-31-2005, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

By this breakdown, New England. Though I know no one who lives in New Jersey (myself included) would feel comfortable considering themselves part of the "New England" region.

Northeast would have been a better descriptor.

I always thought NJ was part of the Mid Atlantic? I'm from NJ.

cthomer5000 · 12-31-2005, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I think NJ is mid-atlantic. Mid-atlantic is New York to Maryland, imo.

I thought so too, but NJ appears to be in the New England grouping if you follow that link.

I think Dutch should have listed the states next to the options, because this is just going to cause a lot of confusion.

edit: actually it appears to get some mention in both. whoops if i fucked up there.

Dutch · 12-31-2005, 09:04 PM

I updated with a list of states, hopefully they are all included. Pulled straight from another web source.

terpkristin · 12-31-2005, 09:06 PM

Hmm.
By that list, I live in the SOUTH!
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

/tk

Buccaneer · 12-31-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

By this breakdown, New England. Though I know no one who lives in New Jersey (myself included) would feel comfortable considering themselves part of the "New England" region.

Northeast would have been a better descriptor.

Come on, Corey, you should have known that.

By the way, to go academic on you guys, those regions are census-designated governmental region - therefore, partially invalidating the claim that these are cultural regions. Read this carefully: regional boundaries do not follow state boundaries. Any claim that two states represent the border of a region (e.g., New York and Vermont, Ohio and Pennsylvania, etc.), is either a government lackey or geographic-illiterate. Obviously, there are some states that are wholly within a region (e.g., Georgia is all South and New Hampshire is all New England).

Since this was the subject matter for my Masters degree (really), at the time I believed in the "Nine Nations" of North America regional delineations. It has been 20 years since Joel wrote his book so I'd be curious as to what changes have occured.

To further complicate this, there is this dichotomy of urban/rural within a region. For example, my thesis was on the delineation of the Deep North region which is the "agricultural midwest" - but only for the non-(intensely) urban counties. Cook County, Illinois is not part of the Deep North (even though it does act as a hub for the "Breadbasket" nine-nation region), it just exist as a national microcosm. There are really several ways of looking at regions, from a continental view of the Nine-Nations to a state's sub-regions (which actually is my favorite subject).

Buccaneer · 12-31-2005, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by terpkristin

Hmm.
By that list, I live in the SOUTH!
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

/tk

Don't worry about it, tk, only the federal govt makes you believe that.

Honolulu_Blue · 12-31-2005, 09:10 PM

I live in Washington, DC which apparently is either the Mid Atlantic or The South.

ThunderingHERD · 12-31-2005, 09:28 PM

Kannapolis, NC. Birth place of Dale Earnhardt, baby!!!

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn · 12-31-2005, 09:40 PM

We live in the Wild Wild West. I think in some parts of the state, stealing a man's horse can get you hanged.

cartman · 12-31-2005, 09:45 PM

Texas is a different beast. The part of the state from about I-35 east considers themselves south, and the Panhandle and West Texas consider themselves west. From San Antonio south, it is the northern most state of Mexico...

I consider myself Southern, much more than midwest or western.

Airhog · 12-31-2005, 10:25 PM

Wierd, I always thought of oklahoma as more of a midwestern state, but I guess its not

kcchief19 · 12-31-2005, 10:38 PM

I must abstain because in no way, shape or form can I recognize Missouri as a "South" state. It's a Midwestern state. We don't have a NASCAR track and we didn't secede from the union. We have very little in common climatalogically, historically or culturally, except that a lot of folks in the Ozarks do say "y'all."

For what it's worth, the Census Bureau considers Missouri a Midwest state. There are four Census regions, the Northeast, South, Midwest and West. Each region has subdivisions as well, i.e. the Northeast consists of New England and the Mid-Atlantic.

http://www.census.gov/geo/www/us_regdiv.pdf

Lorena · 12-31-2005, 10:41 PM

Arizona representing the SOUTHWEST!

Cringer · 12-31-2005, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Texas is a different beast. The part of the state from about I-35 east considers themselves south, and the Panhandle and West Texas consider themselves west. From San Antonio south, it is the northern most state of Mexico...

I consider myself Southern, much more than midwest or western.

It's just Texas, that should be an option on it's own.

And to Dutch, you can answer for me since I live with your momma.

st.cronin · 12-31-2005, 10:43 PM

I don't know if this is exactly on topic or not, but I read a magazine article recently that suggested a correlation between populations of feral hogs and Bush voters.

Dutch · 12-31-2005, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cringer

It's just Texas, that should be an option on it's own.

And to Dutch, you can answer for me since I live with your momma.

That's "sugamomma" to you.

fantastic flying froggies · 01-01-2006, 02:35 PM

Go Rest of the World!

GreenMonster · 01-01-2006, 02:47 PM

South should be any state that every restaurant has sweet tea.

MrBug708 · 01-01-2006, 03:28 PM

I think Georgia should have a separate option

Dutch · 01-01-2006, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Come on, Corey, you should have known that.

By the way, to go academic on you guys, those regions are census-designated governmental region - therefore, partially invalidating the claim that these are cultural regions. Read this carefully: regional boundaries do not follow state boundaries. Any claim that two states represent the border of a region (e.g., New York and Vermont, Ohio and Pennsylvania, etc.), is either a government lackey or geographic-illiterate. Obviously, there are some states that are wholly within a region (e.g., Georgia is all South and New Hampshire is all New England).

Since this was the subject matter for my Masters degree (really), at the time I believed in the "Nine Nations" of North America regional delineations. It has been 20 years since Joel wrote his book so I'd be curious as to what changes have occured.

To further complicate this, there is this dichotomy of urban/rural within a region. For example, my thesis was on the delineation of the Deep North region which is the "agricultural midwest" - but only for the non-(intensely) urban counties. Cook County, Illinois is not part of the Deep North (even though it does act as a hub for the "Breadbasket" nine-nation region), it just exist as a national microcosm. There are really several ways of looking at regions, from a continental view of the Nine-Nations to a state's sub-regions (which actually is my favorite subject).

And to further complicate matters it doesn't show southern Florida as one of New York's 6 'burbs.

terpkristin · 01-01-2006, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenMonster

South should be any state that every restaurant has sweet tea.

I had a friend in undergrad who did the tours for prospective students. She (from Pennsylvania) used to say, "You know Maryland is in the south because they serve grits in the d-hall," to all of her tour groups.

They *did* serve grits in the d-hall. Unfortunately, they were abysmal.

/tk

TonyR · 01-01-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

From San Antonio south, it is the northern most state of Mexico...

Actually from the Nueces South is considered occupied territory. SA is more like the buffer zone between such.

Tasan · 01-01-2006, 09:46 PM

I abstain from this vote, as Texas is CLEARLY not in the 'southwest', it should have its own category. I mean, come on, my boss goes home for the holidays, drives almost 9 hours to get there on fast roads, and still doesn't leave the state. Come on.

Buccaneer · 01-01-2006, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

And to further complicate matters it doesn't show southern Florida as one of New York's 6 'burbs.

South Florida is actually part of the "latino" nation or whatever he called it (remember it looks at all of North America). Anyone can tell that South Florida is truly a different region than anything north of it. However, I do believe that the line has shifted somewhat northward in the past 20 years, exactly where I don't know, maybe a Floridian can better answer that.

tarcone · 01-01-2006, 11:46 PM

Missouri was a slave state during the civil war and if you have ever been in the boot heel, you would swear it is the "deep south". but i consider missouri a midwest state

Dutch · 01-01-2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

Missouri was a slave state during the civil war and if you have ever been in the boot heel, you would swear it is the "deep south". but i consider missouri a midwest state

I would never have guessed Missouri for the south. Go figure.

DanGarion · 01-02-2006, 03:47 AM

Um... Montana is the "West"?

WTF. I think it would be better to have Pacific, and west if they are putting Montana and Idaho with Washington, Oregon, and California. But then what do I know.

MrBug708 · 01-02-2006, 03:59 AM

Stupid west coaster!!! Putting logic into a poll!

DanGarion · 01-02-2006, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Stupid west coaster!!! Putting logic into a poll!

...
*kicks the Bruin fan*

gstelmack · 01-02-2006, 10:40 AM

Didn't we have a google map with all of us on it?

Greyroofoo · 01-02-2006, 10:53 AM

this was the google map link but it doesn't work now

http://myguestmap.lorca.eti.br/guest...fofc&locale=en

tucker342 · 01-02-2006, 11:06 AM

Iowa representin'!

View Poll Results: Where do FOFC'ers live?
New England	14	9.03%
Mid-Atlantic	20	12.90%
The South	26	16.77%
Midwest	36	23.23%
The Southwest	18	11.61%
The West	19	12.26%
I live elsewhere	22	14.19%
Voters: 155. You may not vote on this poll

12-31-2005, 08:40 PM	#2
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I don't know. I'm new here. Is Greensburg, PA, part of the Mid-Atlantic, or is it part of the Midwest? __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

12-31-2005, 08:40 PM	#3
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	Ashburn, VA REPRESENT! /tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

12-31-2005, 08:41 PM	#4
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I'm originally from the Mid-Atlantic, but now live in the South (in large part due to marrying a Southern Woman.) __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

12-31-2005, 08:48 PM	#6
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I think NJ is mid-atlantic. Mid-atlantic is New York to Maryland, imo. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-31-2005, 09:04 PM	#9
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	I updated with a list of states, hopefully they are all included. Pulled straight from another web source.

12-31-2005, 09:06 PM	#10
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	Hmm. By that list, I live in the SOUTH! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! /tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

12-31-2005, 09:10 PM	#13
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	I live in Washington, DC which apparently is either the Mid Atlantic or The South. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

12-31-2005, 09:28 PM	#14
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Kannapolis, NC. Birth place of Dale Earnhardt, baby!!! __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now."

12-31-2005, 09:40 PM	#15
Farrah Whitworth-Rahn Red-Headed Vixen Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ	We live in the Wild Wild West. I think in some parts of the state, stealing a man's horse can get you hanged.

12-31-2005, 09:45 PM	#16
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Texas is a different beast. The part of the state from about I-35 east considers themselves south, and the Panhandle and West Texas consider themselves west. From San Antonio south, it is the northern most state of Mexico... I consider myself Southern, much more than midwest or western. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

12-31-2005, 10:25 PM	#17
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Wierd, I always thought of oklahoma as more of a midwestern state, but I guess its not __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

12-31-2005, 10:38 PM	#18
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	I must abstain because in no way, shape or form can I recognize Missouri as a "South" state. It's a Midwestern state. We don't have a NASCAR track and we didn't secede from the union. We have very little in common climatalogically, historically or culturally, except that a lot of folks in the Ozarks do say "y'all." For what it's worth, the Census Bureau considers Missouri a Midwest state. There are four Census regions, the Northeast, South, Midwest and West. Each region has subdivisions as well, i.e. the Northeast consists of New England and the Mid-Atlantic. http://www.census.gov/geo/www/us_regdiv.pdf

12-31-2005, 10:41 PM	#19
Lorena Unregistered Join Date: May 2004	Arizona representing the SOUTHWEST!

12-31-2005, 10:43 PM	#21
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I don't know if this is exactly on topic or not, but I read a magazine article recently that suggested a correlation between populations of feral hogs and Bush voters. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-01-2006, 02:35 PM	#23
fantastic flying froggies Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny South of France	Go Rest of the World! __________________ Detroit Vampires (CFL) : Ve 're coming for your blood! Camargue Flamingos (WOOF): pretty in Pink

01-01-2006, 02:47 PM	#24
GreenMonster High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2005	South should be any state that every restaurant has sweet tea.

01-01-2006, 03:28 PM	#25
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I think Georgia should have a separate option

01-01-2006, 09:46 PM	#29
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	I abstain from this vote, as Texas is CLEARLY not in the 'southwest', it should have its own category. I mean, come on, my boss goes home for the holidays, drives almost 9 hours to get there on fast roads, and still doesn't leave the state. Come on. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

01-01-2006, 11:46 PM	#31
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Missouri was a slave state during the civil war and if you have ever been in the boot heel, you would swear it is the "deep south". but i consider missouri a midwest state

01-02-2006, 03:47 AM	#33
DanGarion Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Great Northwest	Um... Montana is the "West"? WTF. I think it would be better to have Pacific, and west if they are putting Montana and Idaho with Washington, Oregon, and California. But then what do I know. __________________ Los Angeles Dodgers Check out the FOFC Groups on Facebook! and Reddit! DON'T REPORT ME BRO!

01-02-2006, 03:59 AM	#34
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Stupid west coaster!!! Putting logic into a poll!

01-02-2006, 10:40 AM	#36
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Didn't we have a google map with all of us on it? __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

01-02-2006, 10:53 AM	#37
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	this was the google map link but it doesn't work now http://myguestmap.lorca.eti.br/guest...fofc&locale=en

01-02-2006, 11:06 AM	#38
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	Iowa representin'!

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