OOTP versus Puresim

rowech · 06-24-2006, 04:10 PM

Alright...I'm choosing one....which one do you guys like better?

hukarez · 06-24-2006, 04:16 PM

Here's lynchjm24's linky to the thread here on this board, that was posted on the Matrix boards!

Haaaa.....!

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=49729

sovereignstar · 06-24-2006, 04:28 PM

They both have demos. Which one do you like better?

Ben E Lou · 06-24-2006, 04:57 PM

what better ootp or puresim?

thanks

Joe · 06-24-2006, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

what better ootp or puresim?

thanks

please stop causing problems

dubb93 · 06-24-2006, 05:04 PM

OOTP 6.5 all the way.

Swaggs · 06-24-2006, 05:08 PM

Definitely download both demos and check each of them out.

Anymore, I can only play baseball in online leagues as the AI-run teams in a solo career just don't cut it for me.

rowech · 06-24-2006, 05:38 PM

I have downloaded and played both demos. OOTP 2006 seemed to be way too much. Too much clutter and the game bogs down. Baseball Mogul simply doesn't cut it for me. Puresim seems to be between the two. I'm leaning toward puresim but wonder if anyone has comments on it's realism, etc. I read through the big thread here but it seemed to be an ongoing thread as people tried the game. Curious what the overall feeling is now that it's been out a month.

JonInMiddleGA · 06-24-2006, 05:47 PM

Just because the FOFC can be a little skeptical of newcomers, and even more so when they inquire about a contentious topic ... Rowech came by here after I suggested he might find some of the conversations here on the various baseball textsim options of interest. He had asked for thoughts about them on one of the tabletop game forums, where he's a solid citizen & good guy.
(and, although it might surprise some of the regulars here, I didn't offer an opinion on any of them, just pointed him to the PureSim thread here & kept my two cents out of it).

In other words - be nice FOFC, he's legit

TroyF · 06-24-2006, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rowech

I have downloaded and played both demos. OOTP 2006 seemed to be way too much. Too much clutter and the game bogs down. Baseball Mogul simply doesn't cut it for me. Puresim seems to be between the two. I'm leaning toward puresim but wonder if anyone has comments on it's realism, etc. I read through the big thread here but it seemed to be an ongoing thread as people tried the game. Curious what the overall feeling is now that it's been out a month.

It's tough for me to comment now. PureSim, IMO, is probably the better game as is.

But OOTP truly has potential. There is that word though. . . will it realize it's potenial? I don't know.

As far as OOTP being cluttered, it is a bit. But when you use bookmarks and figure out things, it becomes pretty smooth. In terms of speed, OOTP is actually the faster game.

I'd hold off until the patches or buy both, but if that isn't an option, I'd try the demos and read through both the PureSim and OOTP threads here.

ice4277 · 06-24-2006, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I didn't offer an opinion

JonInMiddleGA · 06-24-2006, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ice4277

Yeah yeah, I know

DaddyTorgo · 06-24-2006, 06:18 PM

I bought Puresim after just a little fiddling with the demo and havn't regretted my purchase. it's realistic ENOUGH for me, which is the key. i still havn't played the OOTP demo, although I badly want to like the game. I guess I'm holding off for a couple patches to see how it will end up.

Puresim is the only sim i've played where i've gotten totally immersed in historical leagues, because it's that easy to set them up.

Cringer · 06-24-2006, 10:02 PM

PureSim is a great game IMO. Not perfect by any means, no game is. But it is the first baseball sim I have become addicted to, in some ways like I did FOF and FBCB, although perhaps a touch less.

Not sure about the comment above about the AI in solo player. I am in what is now a 26 year career, simming the first 10 years to get a bit of history since it was all fictional and started in 1902. I made my Ottawa team into a powerhouse over a few years, and went on to win several World Series, all against the powerhouse of the other league, Buffalo. I won my first, missed the playoffs the year after, then won 3 in a row. Lost one to Buffalo, then won another.

After this run of Ottawa vs. Buffalo World Series, I decided it was time to expand the league and split each league into two divisions. I took over an expansion team, Little Rock. What made me happy was that Ottawa continued to win. Usually the computer would screw up a team like that, but they kept rolling, winning two more titles before I knocked them off with my Little Rock team in the playoffs. Meanwhile, my team is struggling a bit now to get back to the playoffs. Building up this team has been harder then it was with Ottawa for some reason.

The stats are pretty good, enough for me to be happy I think as it has improved with the beta patches.

Crap, I rambled. Anyways, this is te first PureSim I have played and I think it is a good way to go if you want a baseball sim.

rowech · 06-24-2006, 10:33 PM

Cringer,

Is it perhaps too easy?

Cringer · 06-25-2006, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rowech

Cringer,

Is it perhaps too easy?

I know I have heard one guy say that, but I don't think it is too easy. Like I said (in a long-winded way), I built up a pretty strong franchise with the first team I had in that league, one that the computer has continued to keep strong. But with my second team I have had a harder time. I did win the World Series in my third year, but that was with the help of some career years by several guys. I have since struggled, and I definetly have not been able to build up my prospects in the minors like I did before. I haven't changed my formula, it just isn't panning out as well.

If you do get PureSim though, and don't get the latest beta patch it will not be as strong of a game. Some weaknesses have been fixed with trade AI and other stuff since the last official patch. The next official patch is coming soon though, and the beta patches have all been pretty stable anyways so I keep getting those.

lynchjm24 · 06-25-2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rowech

Cringer,

Is it perhaps too easy?

I don't think there is a text sim for solo players that isn't too easy.

I play with only 2 house rules:
1. I have a payroll that is 25-30% less then the AI teams.
2. I limit myself to 3 trades a year - they all must be 1-1. I can make any deal the game will make but it has to be 1-1.

LionsFan10 · 06-25-2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

what better ootp or puresim?

thanks

does the game come with a good manual?

thanks

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06-24-2006, 05:08 PM	#7
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Definitely download both demos and check each of them out. Anymore, I can only play baseball in online leagues as the AI-run teams in a solo career just don't cut it for me. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

06-24-2006, 05:38 PM	#8
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	Let me edit a bit I have downloaded and played both demos. OOTP 2006 seemed to be way too much. Too much clutter and the game bogs down. Baseball Mogul simply doesn't cut it for me. Puresim seems to be between the two. I'm leaning toward puresim but wonder if anyone has comments on it's realism, etc. I read through the big thread here but it seemed to be an ongoing thread as people tried the game. Curious what the overall feeling is now that it's been out a month.

06-24-2006, 05:47 PM	#9
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Just because the FOFC can be a little skeptical of newcomers, and even more so when they inquire about a contentious topic ... Rowech came by here after I suggested he might find some of the conversations here on the various baseball textsim options of interest. He had asked for thoughts about them on one of the tabletop game forums, where he's a solid citizen & good guy. (and, although it might surprise some of the regulars here, I didn't offer an opinion on any of them, just pointed him to the PureSim thread here & kept my two cents out of it). In other words - be nice FOFC, he's legit __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

06-24-2006, 04:28 PM	#3
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	They both have demos. Which one do you like better?

06-24-2006, 06:18 PM	#13
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I bought Puresim after just a little fiddling with the demo and havn't regretted my purchase. it's realistic ENOUGH for me, which is the key. i still havn't played the OOTP demo, although I badly want to like the game. I guess I'm holding off for a couple patches to see how it will end up. Puresim is the only sim i've played where i've gotten totally immersed in historical leagues, because it's that easy to set them up.

06-24-2006, 10:02 PM	#14
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	PureSim is a great game IMO. Not perfect by any means, no game is. But it is the first baseball sim I have become addicted to, in some ways like I did FOF and FBCB, although perhaps a touch less. Not sure about the comment above about the AI in solo player. I am in what is now a 26 year career, simming the first 10 years to get a bit of history since it was all fictional and started in 1902. I made my Ottawa team into a powerhouse over a few years, and went on to win several World Series, all against the powerhouse of the other league, Buffalo. I won my first, missed the playoffs the year after, then won 3 in a row. Lost one to Buffalo, then won another. After this run of Ottawa vs. Buffalo World Series, I decided it was time to expand the league and split each league into two divisions. I took over an expansion team, Little Rock. What made me happy was that Ottawa continued to win. Usually the computer would screw up a team like that, but they kept rolling, winning two more titles before I knocked them off with my Little Rock team in the playoffs. Meanwhile, my team is struggling a bit now to get back to the playoffs. Building up this team has been harder then it was with Ottawa for some reason. The stats are pretty good, enough for me to be happy I think as it has improved with the beta patches. Crap, I rambled. Anyways, this is te first PureSim I have played and I think it is a good way to go if you want a baseball sim. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

06-24-2006, 10:33 PM	#15
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	Cringer, Is it perhaps too easy?

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