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Old 05-18-2006, 02:59 PM   #1
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NBA 2k7 (360 version) Preview

TroyF, myself, and other 360 owners on here have raved about 2k6 and along with college hoops it is my favorite 360 game, so I've kept a periodic eye out for the next version. Today on Operation Sports, I just read the preview and there were some jaw dropping things I read:

http://previews.operationsports.com/...game=nba2k7360


- Over 250 signature jump shots.

- Progressive Fatigue - Play a guy for 45 minutes and expect him to start the next game tired particularly if it is a back to back. This is a feature I've wanted for a long time in a basketball game.

- Different passing styles and a method to choose between overhead, chest, or bounce passes.

- Revamped post game with different style of moves. Every player will be able to use each style, but based on ratings they will have different efficiencies with those styles. Styles include: Power ("Shaq type moves"), finesse moves ("Duncan type moves"), and Quickness based moves (
("Carmelo" type moves.) They give an example of Dirk excelling at the Finesse and Quickness moves.

- AI that controls each player on the bench, each coach, and the mascot. They will react to each event as it happens.

- Improved Substitution AI.

- Up to 8 players in multi player franchise mode!

- More realistic post defense with dunks being much more difficult to execute. The ease that I could get dunks off was one of my big criticisms of last year, so this could be very nice.

- The previewer says the demo was short, but the fouls seem much more realistic at default levels without adjusting sliders.

- Only downside is that they might not able to include authentic representations of all 30 arenas in this year's game, but they are working towards that goal.


On an unrelated note, I'm looking forward to playing my first game of NBA 2k6 and College Hoops on my new HDTV tonight
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Old 05-18-2006, 03:09 PM   #2
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Do you really need to choose between different passing styles? At this level of basketball, I would expect the players to figure out the best style for the situation.
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Old 05-18-2006, 03:14 PM   #3
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Do you really need to choose between different passing styles? At this level of basketball, I would expect the players to figure out the best style for the situation.

You don't have to, but it sounds like there will be combinations of buttons to press if you want to do so. I think it is a nice addition as 2k6 overutilized the overhead pass when it wasn't always the best choice.
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Old 05-18-2006, 03:56 PM   #4
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You don't have to, but it sounds like there will be combinations of buttons to press if you want to do so. I think it is a nice addition as 2k6 overutilized the overhead pass when it wasn't always the best choice.

That is true. Hopefully the AI won't try to jump in front of so many passes and getting itself out of position in the next version.
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Old 05-18-2006, 04:00 PM   #5
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Easily the best Xbox360 sports game thus far. By far and away the single best basketball game I've ever played on any system.

I hope they utilize the college hoops style of substituting this year as well. It's nice to not have to go to a seperate menu to sub guys in and out.

For the first time ever, I'm looking forward to this game (and was before you even posted that) than to any of the football releases scheduled for the fall.
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Old 05-18-2006, 04:04 PM   #6
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I wonder if they'll have the Oklahoma City and New Orleans courts.
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Old 05-18-2006, 04:20 PM   #7
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What hdtv you end up getting?
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Old 09-07-2006, 10:39 AM   #8
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As the risk of being accused of possessing mad hype skills, I thought I'd mention that this is my most anticipated 360 game for the remainder of the year. OS has gotten their hands on a version for several days now. So far, they haven't found any bugs.

Several things I like:

- Progressive fatigue sounds like it will be nicely implemented. Not overdone, but just a moderate effect if a guy plays too many minutes too many nights in a row.

- There are team specific sliders for every team in the league if you don't like the default way they run their teams that can be adjusted by the human coach. These sliders include: Game tempo, Crash boards, Fast break, Def. pressure, Bench usage, Help defense strength, Help recovery speed, Pound ball inside, Settle for jumpers, Rely on 3pt shot, Attack the basket, Finish strong at basket, Look for post players, Prefer 1 on 1 play, Tend to overdribble, Use finesse inside, Follow missed shots, Pass w/ Flair
Prone to foul, Clog passing lanes, Reach on def and Contest shots.

However, it seems like early previewers are saying they won't need to be adjusted much at all, as at default, teams are playing like their real counterparts with teams like the Heat pounding it inside and teams that don't have a good big man relying more on their perimeter game.


- 3 way trades are implemented and you can trade future draft picks as well as current picks.

- Signature styles seem like they are well implemented. Players move more than ever like their real life counterparts (they did this for the star player on each team as well as 3-5 players for the bigger teams that have multiple star players.)

- Like last year, the sim stats look very good at the end of the year.

Anyway, I'll judge for myself in about 3 weeks when this is due to be out, but so far the previews have me very excited about this game.
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Old 09-07-2006, 10:43 AM   #9
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I'll keep an eye on this, but for basketball the college game really interests me WAY more. So, I'm curious to see if any of this is put into NCAA 2k7.
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Old 09-07-2006, 10:43 AM   #10
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I'll be picking this game up at the earliest opportunity, which is probably mid-October for me. I can't wait.
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Old 09-07-2006, 10:47 AM   #11
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thanks EF27. If this game bombs, it's all on you. Freakin hype machine.
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Old 09-07-2006, 10:49 AM   #12
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I just popped NFL Head Coach into my PC last night, and after 2 minutes, I was cursing EaglesFan27 again. He's lucky that I moved out of Louisiana, because I'd have to hurt him if he were nearby.
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Old 09-07-2006, 10:52 AM   #13
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looks like live is better game
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Old 09-07-2006, 10:55 AM   #14
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looks like live is better game
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ea sports website say so
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:10 AM   #15
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The team sliders sound great, but what happens when the rosters change? Will the sliders adjust to take advantage of the talent on the court? Or will the teams try to bring in players that fit their system? And are the sliders attached to the team or the coach?

It could be a great system. Hope it's done well...
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:18 AM   #16
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The team sliders sound great, but what happens when the rosters change? Will the sliders adjust to take advantage of the talent on the court? Or will the teams try to bring in players that fit their system? And are the sliders attached to the team or the coach?

It could be a great system. Hope it's done well...


Those are all great questions. I look forward to finding out the answers down the road.

One big deal that I forgot to mention is the game will have fully functional online leagues with trades/injuries, full seasons, draft, etc. The league can also start with a fantasy draft if they choose. I probably won't use this much unless my best friend in NJ wants to do a small online league because it is hard to sync up playing times, but the game has a lot of options there too, including your VIP profile (which measures many of your tendencies and supposedly plays like you) can play your game or the game can be simulated if it is holding up the league.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:40 AM   #17
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NBA 2k7 is one of my most anticipated 360 games this year also (along with Phantasy Star Universe, Rainbow Six Vegas, and Gears of War). Those are the only 4 games I plan on picking up in '06. Hopefully several FOFC'ers pick it up so we can all play online
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:32 PM   #18
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When is NBA 2k7 coming out? I picked up College Hoops 2k6 for $20 and had a blast with it the only time I played it. Would it be worth getting NBA 2k6 for $30 with the next version coming out soon?
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:38 PM   #19
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Those are all great questions. I look forward to finding out the answers down the road.

One big deal that I forgot to mention is the game will have fully functional online leagues with trades/injuries, full seasons, draft, etc. The league can also start with a fantasy draft if they choose. I probably won't use this much unless my best friend in NJ wants to do a small online league because it is hard to sync up playing times, but the game has a lot of options there too, including your VIP profile (which measures many of your tendencies and supposedly plays like you) can play your game or the game can be simulated if it is holding up the league.

Using the VIP profiles for a league is a FANTASTIC idea....

Ok, I'm getting more and more interested in this.
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Old 09-07-2006, 01:02 PM   #20
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When is NBA 2k7 coming out? I picked up College Hoops 2k6 for $20 and had a blast with it the only time I played it. Would it be worth getting NBA 2k6 for $30 with the next version coming out soon?

I just pre-ordered it today. It will be in most stores on the 25th of September.

Edit: Had a brain infarct. It will actually be the 26th for most stores.
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Old 09-07-2006, 01:20 PM   #21
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Is there going to be a college hoops 2k7 this year?
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Is there going to be a college hoops 2k7 this year?
Oh, yes. http://www.2ksports.com/games/choops2k7/

I'm getting amped about this one, too.
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Old 09-07-2006, 01:51 PM   #23
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The fatigue carrying from game to game is the feature that interests me the most. I will pre-order this one as well.
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Is there going to be a college hoops 2k7 this year?

That is probably my 2nd most anticipated game for the 360 this year (assuming it doesn't get delayed into next year, like it did last year.)
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That is probably my 2nd most anticipated game for the 360 this year (assuming it doesn't get delayed into next year, like it did last year.)
oh great more hype

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oh great more hype

thanks



I must use my hype and hypnotic powers for evil.
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Did last years version of CH and NBA on the 360 allow players to be drafted from CH? I know the XBox version does (after a patch).
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Did last years version of CH and NBA on the 360 allow players to be drafted from CH? I know the XBox version does (after a patch).

Yes, but it was poorly implemented in some regards (sometimes players would change skin colors and other wonky things.)

However, if these 2 games are as good as I'm hoping they will be, I'll probably do a good length career with both games and do all NCAA draft classes.
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Wonky...gotta love that word.

I'll probably get a 360 once those 2 come out. I'm still holding out hope that a price drop will happen...
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NBA 2k7 demo is supposed to be available starting at 2:00 AM PST tonight. I'll be downloading it Friday probably (I won't have much time to play tomorrow night and I figure the servers may get hammered for the first 24 hours anyway.)
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Old 09-13-2006, 08:32 PM   #31
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Wow, games are coming at a furrious pace right now!
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Old 09-13-2006, 08:32 PM   #32
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NBA 2k7 demo is supposed to be available starting at 2:00 AM PST tonight. I'll be downloading it Friday probably (I won't have much time to play tomorrow night and I figure the servers may get hammered for the first 24 hours anyway.)

Awesome news.

Going to pick up the xbox 360 this weekend.
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Oh yeah, the demo's details:

One 2 minute quarter game featuring Dallas vs Miami. Looking forward to seeing some of the signature styles of players on those teams.
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Oh yeah, the demo's details:

One 2 minute quarter game featuring Dallas vs Miami. Looking forward to seeing some of the signature styles of players on those teams.

Great, so I'll be playing a damned demo for three weeks now.
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Great, so I'll be playing a damned demo for three weeks now.

A little less than 2 weeks until the full version is out
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Awesome news.

Going to pick up the xbox 360 this weekend.
Why buy 365, it better to wait for ferst impressin.
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:22 AM   #37
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Impressions of the demo on OS are VERY positive with the biggest gripe being that some of the models don't look very much like the real player. So far, everyone is raving about the gameplay including stuff such as improved ball physics, rim physics, lead passing into the paint isn't an automatic basket anymore and is likely to lead to a turnover. You can now press L on the R analog stick to have a defender get more in a guy's face and really harass him, but it can lead to more fouls.

Lots of really good impressions on the gameplay. People say that dunks are MUCH harder to do. Dunks being too easy was my biggest gripe about 06. I can't wait to try the demo on Friday.
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:59 AM   #38
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Dola -

It's actually a 4 minute quarter demo, not a 2 minute demo and there is a restart option after the game is over.

Edited to add this comment from one of the main editors over there:

This demo is going to sell a ton of games. That was the most realistic 5 min of basketball I've ever played.
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Old 09-15-2006, 08:21 AM   #39
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Downloaded the demo last night. Two things I noticed: It's pretty fun. And also - I suck.
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Downloaded the demo last night. Two things I noticed: It's pretty fun. And also - I suck.


Reportedly, that is only pro difficulty level. So, if you start beating it consistently, there is quite a bit more challenge awaiting you with 2 higher difficulty levels. I'm looking forward to playing it after work tonight.
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Old 09-15-2006, 11:24 AM   #41
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Yeah, I think it's pro difficulty cuz you're given 15 seconds to shoot FT's. They subtract 5 seconds each lvl you go up.

The demo seems really cool and the little stat bar at the bottom that always gives you the stats is an ingenious idea that nobody has used yet.

I am out of practice but I will be playing the demo some more before the release. This is a game I will be getting the day it comes out.
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:57 PM   #42
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Darn, this demo is good. I've only played 10 games already, and I just want to keep playing more and more. It's only a demo, and it's only 4 minutes long, but it feels more like the real sport that it attempts to model more than any team game video game console that I can remember.

Interestingly, this demo makes me want to return Madden and use the money towards NHL 2k7 which I've read very good reviews about at multiple sites (although I don't see many comments about it here.) NHL 2k7 if it is as good as I'm reading and this game once it comes out could fill all of my sports console gaming needs (along with NCAA FB which I'm enjoying with the current sliders I'm using.)


Back to comments about NBA 2k7, going inside is SO much more difficult than in previous versions. A good pick can help you accomplish it at times, as well as some of the better dribblers, but it feels much more realistic, and the post defense feels punishing. Also, fouls actually feel right on default settings.
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Old 09-15-2006, 08:14 PM   #43
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I'm d/l this demo now.. but read my comments in the NHL thread.
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WOW, I'm not much on the NBA.. but damn did 2k sports do the same immersive job the did with NFL 2k5.
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WOW, I'm not much on the NBA.. but damn did 2k sports do the same immersive job the did with NFL 2k5.
Last year's game was very fun. But the demo for this year... September is going to be a bad month for me....

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I'm d/l this demo now.. but read my comments in the NHL thread.

He leaning toward NHL 2k7 over EA NHL 07.
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Just finished my 20th "game" of the demo, I think. Amazing the variety of games that have been played in the 4 minute quarters. I've had 3-2 games and 12-10 games. Assuming the actual game plays the same, I see no reason that I won't be able to run 12 minute quarters. I can't wait.


To expound on my comments earlier, I realize that NHL 07 and 2k7 are pretty much neck and neck overall. As irrational as it might be, the quality of this demo makes me want to support VC and their games including 2k7. I know some people are saying NHL 07 has better gameplay, but Sully and quite a few people on OS who have played both are saying that NHL 2k7 has a more sim like gameplay and that NHL 07's AI isn't as good. Obviously, those are just some people's opinions.


Anyway, if they are similar overall, my recent sour experience with Madden is pushing me towards NHL 2k7, but I'm still considering just going with no more sports games as NBA 2k7 might eat up almost all of my console sports gaming time once it is released in 10 or so days.


Edited to add: I love the variety of FT shooting styles and how similar they look to the real player. I'm finding FT shooting with Shaq to be nearly impossible.
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Old 09-15-2006, 09:39 PM   #48
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I'm unbiased when it comes to games, obviously if I liked the NBA, this game would be the end all for me.. and I like the demo quite a bit.

I just don't see it with the NHL 2k7 game though.. the AI in NHL 07 is quite good, imo and in 2k7 it's pass and speed burst to the other end for a shot.. to each his own though as I know many people like NHL 2k7.

NHL 07 is like MVP 05 was for me when it came out. Quite innovative and hard to go back to any other game of the same sport.
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Old 09-15-2006, 10:28 PM   #49
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I don't really like the NBA, but NBA 2k6 was in my top-5 for number of games played for 2005-2006.
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Old 09-16-2006, 11:32 AM   #50
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Just finished my 20th "game" of the demo, I think. Amazing the variety of games that have been played in the 4 minute quarters. I've had 3-2 games and 12-10 games. Assuming the actual game plays the same, I see no reason that I won't be able to run 12 minute quarters. I can't wait....

3-2 and 12-10? Is the game 4 minutes TOTAL or 4 minute quarters??
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