Terrell Owens...Attempted Suicide???

[MikeVick7]

This from the Channel 8 (ABC) website here in Dallas...

No link to the story yet...it's just at the top of the front page. http://www.wfaa.com/

According to a Dallas Police report obtained by news 8, Dallas Cowboys star receiver Terrell Owens attempted suicide Tuesday night. The report also says that Owens was depressed and reportedly took prescription pain pills. A woman companion observed him putting two pills in his mouth. The woman says the prescription of 40 pills was filled on September 18th and until yesterday he'd taken only five pills. According to the police report, Owens was asked if he'd taken the rest of the prescription. Owens said yes. According to the report, police also asked if he was trying to harm himself. Owens answered yes. Terrell Owens was treated at Baylor University Medical Center.

[Ramzavail]

wow

[MikeVick7]

They have a story linked now...

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dw....1fd220c5.html

[Northwood_DK]

They have it on Mike&Mike now.

[wade moore]

When I first saw this story (the original "rushed to hospital" story) things seemed weird...

If this is indeed true, even for as much dislike as I've had for the public personae that is Terrell Owens, I truely hope that he works through whatever demons he has - despite the spectacles he's put on, he has never done anything truely "evil" in the grand scheme of things and he doesn't deserve to feel like he needs to take his own life...

[gottimd]

So I guess the injury report will say: Terrell Owens Out Severe Depression Return Unknown.

Was it an attempt to committ suicide or an overdose on pain med's? And media is making into a suicide attempt?

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by gottimd

So I guess the injury report will say: Terrell Owens Out Severe Depression Return Unknown.

Was it an attempt to committ suicide or an overdose on pain med's? And media is making into a suicide attempt?

They are saying that he told the police he was attempting to harm himself.

[Barkeep49]

I never thought TO's self destructive behavior would manifest itself in this way. I sincerely hope that report not to be correct, but if it is correct, I hope TO gets the mental health help he so clearly needs.

[albionmoonlight]

In my total ignorant opinion, if this is true, then he is addicted to attention to the point where he is willing to put his life at risk in order to receive it.

For his sake, I hope that it was just a reaction to some medicine and not an suicide-attempt overdose.

[ThunderingHERD]

I always felt sorry for him, even when everyone else hated him. From the more in-depth features I saw on him, dating back to the San Francisco days, it just seemed to me that he was deeply troubled and that his brash persona was just a defense mechanism.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

In my total ignorant opinion, if this is true, then he is addicted to attention to the point where he is willing to put his life at risk in order to receive it.

For his sake, I hope that it was just a reaction to some medicine and not an suicide-attempt overdose.

I think this is a seriously incorrect view of what leads people to suicide.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I think this is a seriously incorrect view of what leads people to suicide.

I think it is a pretty accurate view of what brings many people to suicide...

And with TO, that could be the case.. .and if it is, I still say I hope he gets the help he needs if that is the issue.

[RedKingGold]

If it is true, it would definitely give evidence to the idea that TO is bipolar.

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by wade moore

I think it is a pretty accurate view of what brings many people to suicide...

And with TO, that could be the case.. .and if it is, I still say I hope he gets the help he needs if that is the issue.

But a rational person would likely put self-perservation over the need for attention.

It is more likely that he is "sick in the head" and perceived that no one either a) cares about him, or b) severely dislikes him.

I doubt that this should be considered a "publicity stunt" if it is true.

[MikeVic]

When I heard this on the radio this morning, I thought it was some joke they were playing... seems unreal. Hopefully he does get mental health.

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I think this is a seriously incorrect view of what leads people to suicide.

Yeah, it makes a lot more sense that he did it to get out of the attention, rather than to get (back) into it. If he really went over the line of thinking about suicide and actually tried it, that means he's got to be severly depressed. If so, I honestly can't imagine it's something he picked up very recently, this must have been going around much longer and just came down to a big climax.

[cartman]

Word on the street is that TO and Parcells got into an argument on Monday or Tuesday, when Tuna told TO not to plan on playing next week in Philly, because the rest of the season was more important than one game.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I think this is a seriously incorrect view of what leads people to suicide.

Like I said, I am ignorant. I shouldn't have posted that, actually. There are, I am sure, people on this board who know someone who has attempted suicide. And I don't even want to give the hint of saying anything about why those people did what they did.

I guess it was just sad that my first thought upon reading this was, "You got people talking about you again, Terrell."

Still, I apologize. I should not have posted my uninformed thoughts about TO. And I really should not have done it in such a manner that even gave the hint that I was making a comment about suicide attempts more broadly.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Like I said, I am ignorant. I shouldn't have posted that, actually. There are, I am sure, people on this board who know someone who has attempted suicide. And I don't even want to give the hint of saying anything about why those people did what they did.

I guess it was just sad that my first thought upon reading this was, "You got people talking about you again, Terrell."

Still, I apologize. I should not have posted my uninformed thoughts about TO. And I really should not have done it in such a manner that even gave the hint that I was making a comment about suicide attempts more broadly.

I don't think you were out of line.

EF27 hopefully will jump in here, but my common understanding from the various stuff I learned in college, etc. is that suicides that were more "cry for help" than "trying to kill myself" are definately common. Maybe not the majority, but definately common. I find it strange personally that anyone would claim that it isn't the case.

Maybe he didn't do it literally as a "publicity stunt", but as a cry for attention I think is very plausible.

[John Galt]

It is a crazy story, but TO has always struck me as someone who is very depressed. He often seems to be compensating publicly for something private and he seems very sensitive and dependent upon other peoples' opinions of him. He has also been reported as an off-the-field recluse who doesn't go out and doesn't have many friends. I'm sad for him that it reached this point. Depression is a tough thing to face and I would say even moreso for someone in such a high-profile position with lots of pressure and attention on them on a daily basis.

[molson]

By all accounts, his behavior has changed dramatically since early in his career. I've heard a lot of speculation over the years that he was "troubled". Some people around him picked up the warning signs, most just wrote it off to him being a jerk. I feel sorry for him.

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by wade moore

Maybe he didn't do it literally as a "publicity stunt", but as a cry for attention I think is very plausible.

I think I can agree with that.

[ISiddiqui]

Well, it seems that TO has some pretty major problems. Perhaps his prior antics in his career was due to some underlying depression or insecurity, which manifested itself in an suicide attempt. I've always thought it was something more than simply a 'look at me' thing because of the way he speaks in interviews (far less brash).

[Oilers9911]

Agreed. There is certainly a big difference between a publicity stunt and a cry for help. Both are ways of seeking attention but it is obvious that either way T.O. is mentally ill and needs serious help. Even before this incident it was obvious that the man had something wrong with him.

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by wade moore

Maybe he didn't do it literally as a "publicity stunt", but as a cry for attention I think is very plausible.

I think I can agree with that. I always thought that suicide victims were trying to ask for help by their actions, and there intent was to seek that help by gaining people's attention.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by wade moore

Maybe he didn't do it literally as a "publicity stunt", but as a cry for attention I think is very plausible.

he is a pro athlete in the public eye, he needs only to drop a pen for it to be a front page story - i really don't think this was a cry for attention. this is what happens when you get too many people watching Dr Phil, everyone is a psychologist.

[RedKingGold]

I think HA is the king when it comes to wanting underserved attention.

[Anthony]

personally, for the last several years i've thought TO has been an in the closet homosexual. i obviously don't have any concrete proof, but just in reading between the lines. not to say he tried to commit suicide because he's gay, but sharing my opinion on him to provide a look at some of the demons he might be facing.

personally, TO is my favorite player in the NFL, and have been since the Dallas centerfield-star touchdown game and especially since he caught the game winning td in a playoff game against the Packers as a 49er.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

he is a pro athlete in the public eye, he needs only to drop a pen for it to be a front page story - i really don't think this was a cry for attention. this is what happens when you get too many people watching Dr Phil, everyone is a psychologist.

That or studying about people and their behaviors in college courses. You know, whatever.

[SunDevil]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?cnn=yes


DALLAS (AP) -- Flamboyant Dallas Cowboys receiver Terrell Owens tried to kill himself by overdosing on pain medication, even putting two more pills into his mouth after a friend intervened, according to a police report.

The police report said Owens told his friend "that he was depressed." Details of the report were first released by WFAA-TV on Wednesday.

The friend, who is not identified in the report, "noticed that (his) prescription pain medication was empty and observed (Owens) putting two pills in his mouth," the police report said.

The friend attempted to pry them out with her fingers, then was told by Owens that before this incident he'd taken only five of the 40 pain pills in the bottle he'd emptied. Owens was asked by rescue workers "if he was attempting to harm himself, at which time (he) stated, 'Yes."'

Owens was hospitalized late Tuesday because of what his publicist said was an allergic reaction to pain medicine he was taking for a broken hand. Doctors reportedly tried to induce vomiting.

Owens is recovering from a broken right hand he hurt a week ago Sunday. He had an operation the next day to have a plate screwed in, enabling the bone to heal without being further injured. Dallas Cowboys coach Bill Parcells said last week that the pain medicine made Owens ill.

The Cowboys were off this past weekend and Owens was back at practice Tuesday, although he worked out on his own. Parcells said Owens' hand was improving and he was expected back on the practice field Wednesday. Owens chatted briefly with reporters in the locker room Tuesday afternoon and seemed fine.

Owens, one of the league's top receivers during his 11-year NFL career, is best known for wild stunts on the field and other publicity-seeking antics off it.

When the Cowboys signed him to a $25 million, three-year deal in March, they said their background checks indicated no red flags. In fact, team consultant Calvin Hill -- who mostly deals with troubled players -- said during training camp that his department was not involved with Owens because he didn't have a history of those kinds of problems.

Dallas police officials said they were planning a news conference later Wednesday, but did not immediately release a time. A hospital spokeswoman said early Wednesday there was no patient registered as Terrell Owens, although federal privacy laws allow people to block their name from being released.

Owens' publicist and agent, and the Cowboys, did not return repeated calls from The Associated Press. No teammates or Cowboys officials were seen entering the hospital late Tuesday night.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by wade moore

That or studying about people and their behaviors in college courses. You know, whatever.

ahhhh, the "i had a couple psychology classes in college so thus i am qualified to diagnose people" stmt.

[Toddzilla]

I honestly hope that Terrell can eventually come to grips with whatever his issues really are, but for fucks sake, will this asshole do *anything* for attention?

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

ahhhh, the "i had a couple psychology classes in college so thus i am qualified to diagnose people" stmt.

No, the I got a major in Sociology statement.

Either way, I never said that it IS the case with him, I said it's quite plausible. You are the one declaring a fact about him, not me.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

ahhhh, the "i had a couple psychology classes in college so thus i am qualified to diagnose people" stmt.

ah, the old "I got called out on my statement, so let me find something else to try and make myself look better" bit

[JeeberD]

What a little fucking pussy...

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by cartman

ah, the old "I got called out on my statement, so let me find something else to try and make myself look better" bit

i heart cartman

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

this is what happens when you get too many people watching Dr Phil, everyone is a psychologist.

a couple of posts later...

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

personally, for the last several years i've thought TO has been an in the closet homosexual. i obviously don't have any concrete proof, but just in reading between the lines. not to say he tried to commit suicide because he's gay, but sharing my opinion on him to provide a look at some of the demons he might be facing.

[cthomer5000]

I think what I've learned here is that H.A. is a homosexual in love with T.O.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Toddzilla

I honestly hope that Terrell can eventually come to grips with whatever his issues really are, but for fucks sake, will this asshole do *anything* for attention?

Are you talking about TO or HA?

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I think what I've learned here is that H.A. is a homosexual in love with T.O.

lol

[Joe Canadian]

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

ahhhh, the "i had a couple psychology classes in college so thus i am qualified to diagnose people" stmt.

Do you have a degree in Gaydar?

[RedKingGold]

HA = JSHIPMAN = CLOWN2 = TO ????

[rkmsuf]

this thread is going places

people are on their game today....top notch, top notch!

[Joe Canadian]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

What a little fucking pussy...

Who? Owens?

[panerd]

Death, taxes, and Hell Atlantic whoring for attention in a TO thread.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by wade moore

No, the I got a major in Sociology statement.

Either way, I never said that it IS the case with him, I said it's quite plausible. You are the one declaring a fact about him, not me.

only fact i declared was that he's my favorite player in the NFL. all else was clearly listed as opinion, unless you don't know what "i don't have any concrete proof" means.

overdramatic teens in the midwest cry for help/attention. they do that by going to school with firearms and harming themselves and other children. they do that by mutilating themselves. being destructive. superstar athletes, with access to the finest healthcare in life and surrounded by tons of top of the line medical staffs plus people whose job is only to ensure all their needs are taken cared of do not cry out for help. unless you think Maurice Clarett was trying to cry out by being a boneheaded asshole.

you need only to read SkyDog's sig to find the reason why TO did what he did. and the reason is we won't ever know cuz we don't live in the world of multi-millions and hangers on and hookers and drugs and bright lights and whatnot. we just don't understand. to say the reason why someone would cause a media circus to get out of Philadelphia is the same reason why he'd try to overdose on medication - cuz he's been "crying for help all along" is poppycock.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by Joe Canadian

Who? Owens?

Yup.

Isn't there an old saying that goes something like, "People who try to kill themself with pills are only doing it for attention...there are much more efficient ways to end one's life"?

[Joe Canadian]

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

overdramatic teens in the midwest cry for help/attention. they do that by going to school with firearms and harming themselves and other children. they do that by mutilating themselves. being destructive. superstar athletes, with access to the finest healthcare in life and surrounded by tons of top of the line medical staffs plus people whose job is only to ensure all their needs are taken cared of do not cry out for help.

I get that this is your opinion... but is your opinion based on any type of evidence? Or are you just pulling this out of your ass?

[Ksyrup]

Does this mean TO no longer loves him some him?

[TroyF]

I find it more than a little amusing that HA criticizes others for their diagnosis of the situation and then goes on to make a diagnosis on his own that is far more in depth and makes far more assumptions than anyone else had tried to explain.

And then AFTER he makes it, he still criticizes them. Very impressive.

Suicides can be a cry for help. They can be all sorts of things. I've taken a ton of psychology classes and studied this for reasons nobody here needs to know. Suicide attempts can happen for a myriad of reasons, and attention IS one of those reasons. The one line I found most insteresting from this thread was this one:

But a rational person would likely put self-perservation over the need for attention.

A RATIONAL person put 99.9% of all things in life behind self preservation. The person who attempts/commits suicide is not rational in anyway. It doesn't mean this is a publicity stunt, but to try to discount things because you can't see how a rational person would do that is starting from a faulty premice.