To The Post Count Nazis In This Forum

Chief Rum · 09-28-2006, 12:21 AM

Before I begin rant, let me say this. I don't give a flyin rats' butt about post counts. SkyDog could put me at 1 (or 0, I guess) for all I care. I don't measure my worth here in post counts, nor do I use my measure here at FOFC as something to be counted for (or against) me as my measure as a man. Nor am I calling anyone out, nor do I want to know anyone who complains about WW post counts. I just don't care about any of that.

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I find it absolutely disgusting that there is a group of individuals on this board that are so lacking in self-esteem, so pathetic in their attitudes, so petty in their complaints, and so basically lacking in anything amounting to a sack, that they would complain to a mod about post counts from WW games.

Are you kidding me? This is how you measure your worth? On an Internet forum board? Post counts? This really, honest to God matters to you so much, that you have to run with your panties in a bunch to a moderator and complain about the "excessive posts" of those who play WW games?

You are pathetic. You need to find a new way to place value in your life and what you do. If you have so little in your real life, that a number by your name in an Internet forum matters so much, you need to go out and find the life you are missing. You are only given one, and you're pissing it away pecking at a keyboard and investing all of your self-worth into it.

Some of you need to take a long look in the mirror and try to remember what's really important. And I assure you, your ISP does not provide you with anything truly important.

I have chosen to spend some of my free time here at FOFC, but I do that knowing I live a full life outside of it, and I put no weight in petty things like post counts, but on the quality of posts alone (and even that is fleeting). Those of you complaining about post counts would do well to consider that four yourselves.

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Danny · 09-28-2006, 12:31 AM

They need to go get laid

timmynausea · 09-28-2006, 12:33 AM

I still don't see why everyone is getting so worked up. The issue here is simple: Werewolves and men were not created equal.

If we allow werewolves to have equal rights (post counts, voting, marriage, etc.), it could lead to even worse things like gay marriage. Plus the Hot or Not voting would probably skew toward hairy chicks.

Groundhog · 09-28-2006, 12:36 AM

Awesome, another thread about this.

Chief Rum · 09-28-2006, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Awesome, another thread about this.

Sorry, Groundhog. I assure you, it is the first and last such thread I will start. I had something to say to those individuals to whom it applied, and I have said it. If you are not one of those people, feel free to ignore it, and I am sure it will disappear shortly.

DaddyTorgo · 09-28-2006, 12:45 AM

I agree that those complaining about WW players having inflated post counts are being trivial. i don't however think that WW players concerned about lost posts are trivial, as we all know (and SD has acknowledged) that post count is one of the things looked at to determine punishment severity and such.

Abe Sargent · 09-28-2006, 12:52 AM

This thread will not end well

Chief Rum · 09-28-2006, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I agree that those complaining about WW players having inflated post counts are being trivial. i don't however think that WW players concerned about lost posts are trivial, as we all know (and SD has acknowledged) that post count is one of the things looked at to determine punishment severity and such.

Actually, while I agree with your general point, I don't think they matter as much as people make them out to be. SkyDog has said he looks at them mostly when it's a very new person (<500 posts, let's say, or a join date in the past few weeks) who is doing all sorts of controversial posting from the getgo.

Other than that, I don't think he cares much. He did say in the WW forum that he doesn't always know everyone, and uses the post count/join date to give him some guidance, but I would guess he has passing knowledge of most everyone who has passed 1-2K posts around here.

DaddyTorgo · 09-28-2006, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Actually, while I agree with your general point, I don't think they matter as much as people make them out to be. SkyDog has said he looks at them mostly when it's a very new person (<500 posts, let's say, or a join date in the past few weeks) who is doing all sorts of controversial posting from the getgo.

Other than that, I don't think he cares much. He did say in the WW forum that he doesn't always know everyone, and uses the post count/join date to give him some guidance, but I would guess he has passing knowledge of most everyone who has passed 1-2K posts around here.

touche. touche.

which leaves the only issue for the WW players to be the whole "well why are our posts not as valuable as parody threads or inane threadjacks." Which is a valid point, but *shrug* whatcha gonna do.

dawgfan · 09-28-2006, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

which leaves the only issue for the WW players to be the whole "well why are our posts not as valuable as parody threads or inane threadjacks." Which is a valid point, but *shrug* whatcha gonna do.

Actually, Bucc and I have both provided an explanation for why they might be considered differently. If you disagree with this view, feel free to post your rebuttal - so far, I haven't seen anyone attempt to argue against my point.

Just to be clear, I agree whole-heartedly with CR - anyone that bitched to SkyDog about "inflated" post counts for those that participate in WW threads really needs to get a life. Just like those that participate in WW threads that are bitching about losing post counts also need to get a life.

I will say that for consistency's sake, SkyDog should treat posts in the Hattrick forum exactly the same as he does those in the Werewolf forum - if posts in one forum don't count, they shouldn't count in the other. They either both count or both don't count, but there shouldn't be a difference between them IMO.

Chief Rum · 09-28-2006, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

Just to be clear, I agree whole-heartedly with CR - anyone that bitched to SkyDog about "inflated" post counts for those that participate in WW threads really needs to get a life. Just like those that participate in WW threads that are bitching about losing post counts also need to get a life.

The point of my post, of course, was aimed at the first, but I wanted to say I agree completely with dawgfan as well on the bolded part. Getting all up about post counts isn't any better for those in WW threads bitching about it (although I find it more understandable, at least, since it was something taken from them without warning).

JAG · 09-28-2006, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

I will say that for consistency's sake, SkyDog should treat posts in the Hattrick forum exactly the same as he does those in the Werewolf forum - if posts in one forum don't count, they shouldn't count in the other. They either both count or both don't count, but there shouldn't be a difference between them IMO.

I agree for what little it's worth. I'm surprised this hadn't been mentioned before. The only reason not to do it is because, as someone who goes to the HT forum almost daily, there just aren't many posts there. I'm not sure anyone would notice if this happened.

And CR, for what it's worth, I completely agree with you. I can't believe this many people (non-WW and WW players alike) care about post counts. I thought the whole 'People lost posts!!!11!!1" joke came about because we thought it was such a laugher that people would think twice about their precious post counts. Maybe it's different for others, but people gain my respect by making thoughtful or funny or interesting or helpful posts. The number next to a name is no more than a curiosity.

Subby · 09-28-2006, 05:53 AM

I was going to call you a huge fucking troll, but then I saw you have 4,654 posts and I instead realized you were probably just being respectably wise!

VIVA LOS POST COUNTS!

Bee · 09-28-2006, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Subby

I was going to call you a huge fucking troll, but then I saw you have 4,654 posts and I instead realized you were probably just being respectably wise!

VIVA LOS POST COUNTS!

Not to mention that he's an Oct 2000 poster, so his post count actually is valued at 1.5 times the normal value.

Ben E Lou · 09-28-2006, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

as we all know (and SD has acknowledged) that post count is one of the things looked at to determine punishment severity

No, it is not used to determine punishment severity. Read what I said. It helps me get a better feel for those with whom I have little familiarity. I said nothing about punishment severity.

Ben E Lou · 09-28-2006, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee

Not to mention that he's an Oct 2000 poster, so his post count actually is valued at 1.5 times the normal value.

You forgot that he's an original IHOFer, so that gets him up to 2.5.

Peregrine · 09-28-2006, 06:11 AM

I definitely agree with you Chief Rum, I don't understand the whining about post counts, especially since it's not like most of us made our counts by important threads about cancer research and how to achieve world peace.

Draft Dodger · 09-28-2006, 06:41 AM

sterlingice · 09-28-2006, 07:30 AM

Secretly Chief Rum is going for word count instead of post count so he will reign supreme and Jeeber will be knocked back down to 234th

SI

st.cronin · 09-28-2006, 07:34 AM

much ado about nothing

stevew · 09-28-2006, 07:34 AM

This thread is stupid.

stevew · 09-28-2006, 07:35 AM

Vote Chief Rum

Kodos · 09-28-2006, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Just to be clear, I agree whole-heartedly with CR - anyone that bitched to SkyDog about "inflated" post counts for those that participate in WW threads really needs to get a life. Just like those that participate in WW threads that are bitching about losing post counts also need to get a life.

This is pretty much all that matters. People who bitched need to get a life, and people who are bitching need to get a life. I still think dumping them altogether is the way to go. Or maybe just have them display if you look at the individual's profile, instead of having it show up next to each post.

Raiders Army · 09-28-2006, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

This is pretty much all that matters. People who bitched need to get a life, and people who are bitching need to get a life. I still think dumping them altogether is the way to go. Or maybe just have them display if you look at the individual's profile, instead of having it show up next to each post.

As I said in another thread, we're mostly men here. To some, post counts are a measure of their manhood (one of the few things that you can quantify on FOFC). Jealousy of post counts and bitching of posts not being counted both fall into the same boat as you said above.

To me, anyone who bitches needs to see a psychologist because they have self-image issues.

scooper · 09-28-2006, 09:41 AM

We have post counts?

DanGarion · 09-28-2006, 10:04 AM

Yeah, maybe there is a mod for word count instead of post count, then we can solve this whole problem.

DanGarion · 09-28-2006, 10:12 AM

Oh yeah before I forget.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

scooper · 09-28-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dangarion

Yeah, maybe there is a mod for word count instead of post count, then we can solve this whole problem.

That's a really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really good idea.

Anthony · 09-28-2006, 10:27 AM

who deleted that other thread, the one that Blade started (with the poll)? i had some funny stuff in there and i might've lost like 10 posts. isn't that the internet equivalent of being a suicide bomber?

wade moore · 09-28-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

who deleted that other thread, the one that Blade started (with the poll)? i had some funny stuff in there and i might've lost like 10 posts. isn't that the internet equivalent of being a suicide bomber?

Blade6119 deleted it.

Chubby · 09-28-2006, 10:30 AM

Complaining about post counts?

How lame can you get?

Kodos · 09-28-2006, 10:31 AM

I thought he was against folks losing posts!

Kodos · 09-28-2006, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

How lame can you get?

Never showing one's face when one's team loses in IHOF?

stevew · 09-28-2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Blade6119 deleted it.

Poor form on his part.

biological warrior · 09-28-2006, 10:38 AM

Reminds me of the : I feel like a thread killer...'' debacle 3 years ago, but this one is more serious though....Someone care to explain a chronological event of these things.

Poli · 09-28-2006, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

I will say that for consistency's sake, SkyDog should treat posts in the Hattrick forum exactly the same as he does those in the Werewolf forum - if posts in one forum don't count, they shouldn't count in the other. They either both count or both don't count, but there shouldn't be a difference between them IMO.

Having just walked into the changes, but I find myself agreeing with this.

panerd · 09-28-2006, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Blade6119 deleted it.

Does he not understand the irony of deleting a post complaining about losing posts?

SnDvls · 09-28-2006, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Poor form on his part.

I think it's funny and ironic he did it...no one should really care if it was removed...unless they are worried about losing posts

Chubby · 09-28-2006, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Never showing one's face when one's team loses in IHOF?

I do, it's just late at night

Now where do we petition that all polls get moved to a separate forum where the posts don't count?

SnDvls · 09-28-2006, 10:42 AM

it'll be the new trend...get lots of people to post in your thread and then deleate it so people lose posts...since no one cares about them anyhow.

Blade6119 · 09-28-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Poor form on his part.

I stated when the thread began it was to be a serious thread for those effected to share their thoughts. I stated quite clearly the thread was to stay on topic, and i would not allow the thread to spiral into a joke like the other thread did. As HA so elegantly pointed out when asking:

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

who deleted that other thread, the one that Blade started (with the poll)? i had some funny stuff in there and i might've lost like 10 posts.

People explicitly ignored my instructions for what the thread was for, and therefore it was no longer worth keeping open. The mods, who were the intended audience for our views, can still see the thread.

stevew · 09-28-2006, 10:53 AM

Oh, okay. That's a solid explanation, Blade2119.

CraigSca · 09-28-2006, 10:57 AM

The heck with the irony regarding the deletion of the poll thread, check out the first post in this thread for a healthy slice of ironic pie.

Subby · 09-28-2006, 11:02 AM

mmm pie....

Subby · 09-28-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

People explicitly ignored my instructions for what the thread was for, and therefore it was no longer worth keeping open. The mods, who were the intended audience for our views, can still see the thread.

Maybe a kind hearted mod can re-post the funny stuff from that thread. There was some definite gold in there.

Chubby · 09-28-2006, 11:09 AM

Where's our Gerogia High School sports forum?

Oh, that's obviously of the utmost importance and shouldn't be moved!

The issue with WW getting moved is that the influx of new players will die now that it's it's own forum, same thing happened with Hatrrick when it got moved.

it's funny how things that actually have to do with computer gaming get moved out of GD while everything else gets left in.

Desnudo · 09-28-2006, 11:12 AM

Werewolves can drive, they should have the right to have their posts counted.

rkmsuf · 09-28-2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

Werewolves can drive, they should have the right to have their posts counted.

Don't start with me.

Mustang · 09-28-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

petty things like post counts[/end rant]

What about post things like petty counts.

ONE Petty...

TWO Pettys

DaddyTorgo · 09-28-2006, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

No, it is not used to determine punishment severity. Read what I said. It helps me get a better feel for those with whom I have little familiarity. I said nothing about punishment severity.

okay. well...indirectly at least then. ie....someone with more posts is given a bit more leeway than a nOOb. i just didn't word my thought clearly

09-28-2006, 12:36 AM	#4
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09-28-2006, 12:52 AM	#7
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09-28-2006, 06:41 AM	#18
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09-28-2006, 07:30 AM	#19
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09-28-2006, 07:34 AM	#20
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09-28-2006, 12:31 AM	#2
Danny General Manager Join Date: Jul 2001	They need to go get laid

09-28-2006, 12:33 AM	#3
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	I still don't see why everyone is getting so worked up. The issue here is simple: Werewolves and men were not created equal. If we allow werewolves to have equal rights (post counts, voting, marriage, etc.), it could lead to even worse things like gay marriage. Plus the Hot or Not voting would probably skew toward hairy chicks.

09-28-2006, 12:45 AM	#6
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I agree that those complaining about WW players having inflated post counts are being trivial. i don't however think that WW players concerned about lost posts are trivial, as we all know (and SD has acknowledged) that post count is one of the things looked at to determine punishment severity and such.

09-28-2006, 05:53 AM	#13
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	I was going to call you a huge fucking troll, but then I saw you have 4,654 posts and I instead realized you were probably just being respectably wise! VIVA LOS POST COUNTS!

09-28-2006, 06:11 AM	#17
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	I definitely agree with you Chief Rum, I don't understand the whining about post counts, especially since it's not like most of us made our counts by important threads about cancer research and how to achieve world peace.

09-28-2006, 07:34 AM	#21
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	This thread is stupid.

09-28-2006, 07:35 AM	#22
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Vote Chief Rum Last edited by stevew : 09-28-2006 at 07:35 AM.

09-28-2006, 09:41 AM	#25
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	We have post counts?

09-28-2006, 10:04 AM	#26
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09-28-2006, 10:12 AM	#27
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09-28-2006, 10:27 AM	#29
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	who deleted that other thread, the one that Blade started (with the poll)? i had some funny stuff in there and i might've lost like 10 posts. isn't that the internet equivalent of being a suicide bomber?

09-28-2006, 10:30 AM	#31
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Complaining about post counts? How lame can you get?

09-28-2006, 10:31 AM	#32
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I thought he was against folks losing posts!

09-28-2006, 10:38 AM	#35
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	Reminds me of the : I feel like a thread killer...'' debacle 3 years ago, but this one is more serious though....Someone care to explain a chronological event of these things.

09-28-2006, 10:42 AM	#40
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	it'll be the new trend...get lots of people to post in your thread and then deleate it so people lose posts...since no one cares about them anyhow. Last edited by SnDvls : 09-28-2006 at 10:43 AM. Reason: damn to slow lost the dola

09-28-2006, 10:53 AM	#42
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Oh, okay. That's a solid explanation, Blade2119.

09-28-2006, 10:57 AM	#43
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09-28-2006, 11:02 AM	#44
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	mmm pie....

09-28-2006, 11:09 AM	#46
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Where's our Gerogia High School sports forum? Oh, that's obviously of the utmost importance and shouldn't be moved! The issue with WW getting moved is that the influx of new players will die now that it's it's own forum, same thing happened with Hatrrick when it got moved. it's funny how things that actually have to do with computer gaming get moved out of GD while everything else gets left in.

09-28-2006, 11:12 AM	#47
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Werewolves can drive, they should have the right to have their posts counted. Last edited by Desnudo : 09-28-2006 at 11:13 AM.

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