Ding, Dong, The Yankees are dead

tucker rocky · 10-07-2006, 06:09 PM

Time for George to go on another head-hunting spree.

DaddyTorgo · 10-07-2006, 06:12 PM

that's really hot.

money can't buy you everything i guess

jeff061 · 10-07-2006, 06:17 PM

I think George has crossed into the realms of the senile. I don't think he's still capable of what earned him his reputation.

It'd be more fun to mock the Yankees right now if I wasn't a Red Sox fan. There's a catch-22 for you.

CraigSca · 10-07-2006, 06:20 PM

Does Torre leave and get replaced with Girardi?

JeeberD · 10-07-2006, 06:21 PM

Way to go Tigres!

Logan · 10-07-2006, 06:24 PM

Posada just hit a 2 run HR.

I hope to god this thread doesn't have to be deleted.

Logan · 10-07-2006, 06:25 PM

That guy who wanting a kiss from Leyland might've been the greatest thing I've ever seen.

vtbub · 10-07-2006, 06:26 PM

BALLGAME OVER! SEASON OVER! THE YANKEES LOSE! THEEEEEEEEE YANKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSS LOSSSSSSSSSSSSE!

My condolences to my friends who are Yankee fans,

JeeberD · 10-07-2006, 06:26 PM

Don't celebrate too much, Tigers. There's still plenty of baseball left to be played...

sterlingice · 10-07-2006, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by vtbub

BALLGAME OVER! SEASON OVER! THE YANKEES LOSE! THEEEEEEEEE YANKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSS LOSSSSSSSSSSSSE!

I hate that braying jackass who calls Yankee games

SI

Schmidty · 10-07-2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Don't celebrate too much, Tigers. There's still plenty of baseball left to be played...

WTF???

We fans (and the players) DESERVE to celebrate this. It's been 19 fucking years since we even made it to the playoffs. I hope the Tigers, and the fans, have a huge party tonight.

I only wish my trip hadn't been delayed until monday, so I could be there right now.....

Warhammer · 10-07-2006, 06:31 PM

There are few teams that I enjoy watching lose more than the Yankees, Tennessee football is the only thing that comes to mind.

tucker rocky · 10-07-2006, 06:32 PM

Does George even consider building a team with homegrown players?

or

Continue raiding the others teams players?

Rizon · 10-07-2006, 06:33 PM

I'd root against the Skankees even if they played a team full of grandma-beaters.

tucker rocky · 10-07-2006, 06:35 PM

Is Detroit going to be the feel good team this season?

Wasabiak · 10-07-2006, 06:35 PM

I love sports. Look at Kenny Rogers.........That is what it's all about right there.

Sincerely,

A Twins fan

sterlingice · 10-07-2006, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Does George even consider building a team with homegrown players?

or

Continue raiding the others teams players?

That's such a glib answer, tho. It's not as if the late 90's teams won series because they were "homegrown" (myth) and the ones now because they are mercenaries. Also, it's not as if you can win with only homegrown talent. After all, Ivan Rodriguez, Magglio Ordonez, Kenny Rogers, and Todd Jones are all lifelong Tigers.

SI

st.cronin · 10-07-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

I'd root against the Skankees even if they played a team full of grandma-beaters.

Heck, I would even cheer Barry Bonds if he got a hit against the Yankees.

tucker rocky · 10-07-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

That's such a glib answer, tho. It's not as if the late 90's teams won series because they were "homegrown" (myth) and the ones now because they are mercenaries. Also, it's not as if you can win with only homegrown talent. After all, Ivan Rodriguez, Magglio Ordonez, Kenny Rogers, and Todd Jones are all lifelong Tigers.

SI

This is true.

Now I'm hoping for a really good series with the Tigers and A's.

DaddyTorgo · 10-07-2006, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

I'd root against the Skankees even if they played a team full of grandma-beaters.

what if they played a team of child-rapists?

tucker rocky · 10-07-2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Heck, I would even cheer Barry Bonds if he got a hit against the Yankees.

Maybe Bonds will become a Yankee, then you wouldn't need worrying about cheering.

Greyroofoo · 10-07-2006, 06:56 PM

I am a Tigers fan, and my boss is a yankees fan.

My performance report that my boss is writing right now can not end well.

tucker rocky · 10-07-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

what if they played a team of child-rapists?

Since child-rapists are the lowest-of-lows, I'd have to willing root for the Yankees.

tucker rocky · 10-07-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

I am a Tigers fan, and my boss is a yankees fan.

My performance report that my boss is writing right now can not end well.

Hopefully he'll be biased.

Wasabiak · 10-07-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

what if they played a team of child-rapists?

Depends on where John Mark Karr is batting.

SFL Cat · 10-07-2006, 07:11 PM

How about a team of Mark Foleys?

Wasabiak · 10-07-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SFL Cat

How about a team of Mark Foleys?

How about a team of catholic priests? I think I would root for the catholic priests..........

Booo Yankees.......Hoorey Jim Beam!!!!

gottimd · 10-07-2006, 07:14 PM

Nothing makes my day more than a Yankees loss. Ok, there are a lot of other things that would make my day better, but I sure as hell love it when they lose.

Toddzilla · 10-07-2006, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

I'd root against the Skankees even if they played a team full of grandma-beaters.

If Dateline NBC and Perverted Justice wrangled up a team full of child molesters, I'd buy their jersey and wear it to Yankee Stadium to root against the Yankees.

TroyF · 10-07-2006, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

That's such a glib answer, tho. It's not as if the late 90's teams won series because they were "homegrown" (myth) and the ones now because they are mercenaries. Also, it's not as if you can win with only homegrown talent. After all, Ivan Rodriguez, Magglio Ordonez, Kenny Rogers, and Todd Jones are all lifelong Tigers.

SI

You could make a case that this years Tigers team is built more outside the system than those Yankee championship teams. They did get players and sometimes stars to fill in. . . but Jeter, Pettite, Rivera, Williams, and Posada among others were homegrown players. And those made up a large majority of the core.

Still, there is no doubt to the answer to the question above. The Yankees will continue to try and raid other rosters. We've already heard about the Soriano speculation floating around. I'd be a large sum of cash that they'll spend big to upgrade the bullpen.

I don't care really, I'm just thrilled to see them lose.

bulletsponge · 10-07-2006, 07:23 PM

how did the Yankees loose again in the postseason? they have "the greatest clutch player in the history of baseball" leading thier team? youd think they would win when favored at least once and a while

TroyF · 10-07-2006, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

how did the Yankees loose again in the postseason? they have "the greatest clutch player in the history of baseball" leading thier team? youd think they would win when favored at least once and a while

The spin will be that he couldn't recover from ARod being a choker. It's going to be interesting to watch the NY media pummel ARod. They are going to blame one man for the "greatest lineup" in history failing miserably three games in a row.

st.cronin · 10-07-2006, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

how did the Yankees loose again in the postseason? they have "the greatest clutch player in the history of baseball" leading thier team? youd think they would win when favored at least once and a while

Well, their big problem is they have Alex Rodriguez on their roster. As long as he's a Yankee, they ain't winning shit.

st.cronin · 10-07-2006, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

If Dateline NBC and Perverted Justice wrangled up a team full of child molesters, I'd buy their jersey and wear it to Yankee Stadium to root against the Yankees.

I love this post.

bulletsponge · 10-07-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

The spin will be that he couldn't recover from ARod being a choker. It's going to be interesting to watch the NY media pummel ARod. They are going to blame one man for the "greatest lineup" in history failing miserably three games in a row.

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Well, their big problem is they have Alex Rodriguez on their roster. As long as he's a Yankee, they ain't winning shit.

wow it only took 1 post for Troys prediction to come true

bosshogg23 · 10-07-2006, 07:30 PM

The homegrown talent on the Tigers that I know of are Fernando Rodney, Justin Verlander and Joel Zumaya of the pitchers.

Omar Infante, Brandon Inge, Ramon Santiago and Curtis Granderson are the position players.

Not sure how this compares with other teams but thats 7 out of 25.

DaddyTorgo · 10-07-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bosshogg23

The homegrown talent on the Tigers that I know of are Fernando Rodney, Justin Verlander and Joel Zumaya of the pitchers.

Omar Infante, Brandon Inge, Ramon Santiago and Curtis Granderson are the position players.

Not sure how this compares with other teams but thats 7 out of 25.

bonderman too, right?

bosshogg23 · 10-07-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

bonderman too, right?

Nope, trade with the Oakland A's to get him. He and Carlos Pena and Franklyn German. Bonderman was a part of Moneyball by Michael Lewis. Oakland's owner didn't want to give him big dollar because of his(Bondermans) reading dyslexia.

JeeberD · 10-07-2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bosshogg23

The homegrown talent on the Tigers that I know of are Fernando Rodney, Justin Verlander and Joel Zumaya of the pitchers.

Omar Infante, Brandon Inge, Ramon Santiago and Curtis Granderson are the position players.

Not sure how this compares with other teams but thats 7 out of 25.

Wasn't Inge once in the Astros organization?

bosshogg23 · 10-07-2006, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Wasn't Inge once in the Astros organization?

Only transaction listed by Baseball-Reference is

Drafted by the Detroit Tigers in the 2nd round of the 1998 amateur draft. Player signed June 27, 1998

He isn't Brad Ausmus or Doug Brocail or Todd Jones where they like to flip flop back and forth

spleen1015 · 10-07-2006, 07:48 PM

This makes is a successful baseball season.

The Curse of Mike Mussina continues!

molson · 10-07-2006, 07:58 PM

I'm pretty psyched for the Tigers fans who have been there all along - since '87 and '84 at least. This must be an amazing day.

JeeberD · 10-07-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bosshogg23

Only transaction listed by Baseball-Reference is

Drafted by the Detroit Tigers in the 2nd round of the 1998 amateur draft. Player signed June 27, 1998

He isn't Brad Ausmus or Doug Brocail or Todd Jones where they like to flip flop back and forth

I guess I got confused with all those damn trades...

DeToxRox · 10-07-2006, 08:27 PM

I was at tonights game. Best experience of my fucking life. Unreal. Totally unreal. As someone who was there for all of 2003, this is vindication. I am only 21 so I wasn't around for 84 and barely remember 87. All I remember is losing. I can't even tell you what it feels like right now. Total amazement and shock.

bosshogg23 · 10-07-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

I was at tonights game. Best experience of my fucking life. Unreal. Totally unreal. As someone who was there for all of 2003, this is vindication. I am only 21 so I wasn't around for 84 and barely remember 87. All I remember is losing. I can't even tell you what it feels like right now. Total amazement and shock.

Did you get to see Kenny Rogers spraying champagne on the fans? That was pretty awesome. He then gave the empty bottles to different fans.

DeToxRox · 10-07-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bosshogg23

Did you get to see Kenny Rogers spraying champagne on the fans? That was pretty awesome. He then gave the empty bottles to different fans.

Yup. I stayed over an hour after the game ended. It was just insane. Seeing Grilli and Casey spray the fans with champaigne, seeing Zumaya run after a Horse with the bubbly. It was just so much fun.

DaddyTorgo · 10-07-2006, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bosshogg23

Nope, trade with the Oakland A's to get him. He and Carlos Pena and Franklyn German. Bonderman was a part of Moneyball by Michael Lewis. Oakland's owner didn't want to give him big dollar because of his(Bondermans) reading dyslexia.

but wasn't he like in rookieball at that point or something? i think you have to leave "homegrown" open to interpertation...what % of players even reach the majors (let alone stick there for say...3 years) with the club who drafted them?

sterlingice · 10-07-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

I guess I got confused with all those damn trades...

So he's not part of the Padres, Tigers, Astros timeshare group?

SI

sterlingice · 10-07-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

wow it only took 1 post for Troys prediction to come true

Scary, huh?

SI

bosshogg23 · 10-07-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

but wasn't he like in rookieball at that point or something? i think you have to leave "homegrown" open to interpertation...what % of players even reach the majors (let alone stick there for say...3 years) with the club who drafted them?

I think he was in A Ball but im not positive.

I agree that homegrown can = players that achieve their first big league appearance with a club.

Most of the time homegrown = drafted players though. I think that kinda sucks because it discounts all trades teams make when they are selling near July 31.

10-07-2006, 06:17 PM	#3
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	I think George has crossed into the realms of the senile. I don't think he's still capable of what earned him his reputation. It'd be more fun to mock the Yankees right now if I wasn't a Red Sox fan. There's a catch-22 for you. __________________

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CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	Does Torre leave and get replaced with Girardi? __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

10-07-2006, 06:21 PM	#5
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Way to go Tigres! __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

10-07-2006, 06:26 PM	#8
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	BALLGAME OVER! SEASON OVER! THE YANKEES LOSE! THEEEEEEEEE YANKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSS LOSSSSSSSSSSSSE! My condolences to my friends who are Yankee fans, __________________

10-07-2006, 06:26 PM	#9
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Don't celebrate too much, Tigers. There's still plenty of baseball left to be played... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

10-07-2006, 06:12 PM	#2
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	that's really hot. money can't buy you everything i guess

10-07-2006, 06:24 PM	#6
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Posada just hit a 2 run HR. I hope to god this thread doesn't have to be deleted.

10-07-2006, 06:25 PM	#7
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	That guy who wanting a kiss from Leyland might've been the greatest thing I've ever seen.

10-07-2006, 06:31 PM	#12
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	There are few teams that I enjoy watching lose more than the Yankees, Tennessee football is the only thing that comes to mind.

10-07-2006, 06:32 PM	#13
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Does George even consider building a team with homegrown players? or Continue raiding the others teams players?

10-07-2006, 06:35 PM	#15
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Is Detroit going to be the feel good team this season?

10-07-2006, 06:35 PM	#16
Wasabiak High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Beulah, ND	I love sports. Look at Kenny Rogers.........That is what it's all about right there. Sincerely, A Twins fan

10-07-2006, 06:56 PM	#22
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	I am a Tigers fan, and my boss is a yankees fan. My performance report that my boss is writing right now can not end well.

10-07-2006, 07:11 PM	#26
SFL Cat College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South Florida	How about a team of Mark Foleys?

10-07-2006, 07:14 PM	#28
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Nothing makes my day more than a Yankees loss. Ok, there are a lot of other things that would make my day better, but I sure as hell love it when they lose. __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

10-07-2006, 07:23 PM	#31
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	how did the Yankees loose again in the postseason? they have "the greatest clutch player in the history of baseball" leading thier team? youd think they would win when favored at least once and a while

10-07-2006, 07:30 PM	#36
bosshogg23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Philly	The homegrown talent on the Tigers that I know of are Fernando Rodney, Justin Verlander and Joel Zumaya of the pitchers. Omar Infante, Brandon Inge, Ramon Santiago and Curtis Granderson are the position players. Not sure how this compares with other teams but thats 7 out of 25.

10-07-2006, 07:48 PM	#41
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	This makes is a successful baseball season. The Curse of Mike Mussina continues!

10-07-2006, 07:58 PM	#42
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I'm pretty psyched for the Tigers fans who have been there all along - since '87 and '84 at least. This must be an amazing day.

10-07-2006, 08:27 PM	#44
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	I was at tonights game. Best experience of my fucking life. Unreal. Totally unreal. As someone who was there for all of 2003, this is vindication. I am only 21 so I wasn't around for 84 and barely remember 87. All I remember is losing. I can't even tell you what it feels like right now. Total amazement and shock.

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