Reference to C.P.T. lands city council member in hot water..

Ben E Lou · 10-17-2006, 07:58 PM

Talk about your dumb moves...

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Phone call to radio station lands Engelman in hot water

Tuesday, October 17, 2006

BY DIETTE COURRÉGÉ

A racially derogatory comment from Charleston County school board member Sandi Engelman about the superintendent on a morning talk show Tuesday spurred mostly backlash and little sympathy from the community.
Listen to the comment
Engelman called in to The Morning Buzz with Richard Todd on 1250 AM WTMA to respond to people criticizing what she and her husband were charging the district in travel expenses.
At the end of the nine-minute phone call, Engelman made an allegation about the superintendent, who is black, over-charging the district for a flight because she was late and on "colored people's time."
"Let me tell you one quick thing before you go," she said. "It's also, from the flight to Chicago, the superintendent was on her usual 'CPT,' missed her flight, came in and booked a first-class flight for hubby, daughter and herself."
Superintendent Maria Goodloe-Johnson and School Board Chairwoman Nancy Cook planned to respond to the comment later Tuesday, but district officials initially denied the claim made by Engelman.
Engelman is up for re-election and faces three challengers for the West Ashley seat on the county school board in the Nov. 7 race.

They had Engelman on the local news tonight. She made a pitiful attempt to wiggle out of it by saying, "Well, I've come to learn that apparently in the black community, c.p.t. means 'colored people time'. To me, it means 'certain people time,' meaning that certain people think they're too important to be on time for anything."

A video interview with her can be found here. It's worth watching.

http://www.wcsc.com/home/4421362.html

NoMyths · 10-17-2006, 08:26 PM

And here you'd think that there were no racial issues in town.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-17-2006, 08:27 PM

SD, is that a common euphemism that I've missed? I can't say that I've ever heard CPT period, colored, certain, or otherwise.

Ben E Lou · 10-17-2006, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

SD, is that a common euphemism that I've missed? I can't say that I've ever heard CPT period, colored, certain, or otherwise.

Wow, you've never heard that one??? That's borderline shocking. I've heard it basically all my life, from both blacks and whites. I've never heard it mean anything other than colored people time, until today's story.

Ben E Lou · 10-17-2006, 08:33 PM

A few links, Jon:

Here's a parody news web site: hxxp://www.deadbrain.com/news/article_2003_09_21_5343.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colored_People's_Time

JeeberD · 10-17-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

SD, is that a common euphemism that I've missed? I can't say that I've ever heard CPT period, colored, certain, or otherwise.

Ditto...

Fonzie · 10-17-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Ditto...

Double ditto.

Ben E Lou · 10-17-2006, 08:43 PM

You have to have spent a good bit of time around black people (not assimilated ones, either) to have heard that term. That's why it surprised me that JiMGA hasn't heard it. It's like HNIC--definitely something we'd use around white people, but only after establishing a certain level of comfort with them.

st.cronin · 10-17-2006, 08:43 PM

triple ditto

Rizon · 10-17-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

triple ditto

Quadruple ditto

I've heard of OPP though.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-17-2006, 08:49 PM

Now see, HNIC is one I know, heard that one at least as far back as high school (oddly enough, used to describe an extremely white basketball coach).

But darned if I ever heard CPT before (or if I did, it completely sailed over my head & didn't register).

stevew · 10-17-2006, 08:52 PM

I have heard people use CPT before.

JeeberD · 10-17-2006, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

You have to have spent a good bit of time around black people (not assimilated ones, either) to have heard that term.

As an army brat I grew up around a lot of black folks. Whether they were considered "assimilated" or not I have no freakin' clue...

And yes, HNIC is a term I heard before FOFC.

sabotai · 10-17-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Quadruple ditto

I've heard of OPP though.

Yeah you know me!

Ben E Lou · 10-17-2006, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Now see, HNIC is one I know, heard that one at least as far back as high school (oddly enough, used to describe an extremely white basketball coach).

But darned if I ever heard CPT before (or if I did, it completely sailed over my head & didn't register).

It must be a Middle Georgia thang, you North-Georgia-Yankeefied-Middle-Georgia WANNABE!!!!

JonInMiddleGA · 10-17-2006, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

It must be a Middle Georgia thang, you North-Georgia-Yankeefied-Middle-Georgia WANNABE!!!!

Yep, that's me

I've been wondering, I really don't think "JonInNortheastGA" has the same ring to it. I've been pondering an eventual name change (if we ever get rid of the contractors here & get the house sold down there so we can finish moving) to "Behind Enemy Lines".

Ben E Lou · 10-17-2006, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

As an army brat I grew up around a lot of black folks. Whether they were considered "assimilated" or not I have no freakin' clue...

Probably not the sort of thing you'd hear in army circles. (My father retired before I was born...) It definitely was more of a 'hood type thing, at least where I grew up.

Did y'all watch the video?

Izulde · 10-17-2006, 09:07 PM

HNIC, OPP I've heard before.. CPT never.

Ben E Lou · 10-17-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Yep, that's me

I've been wondering, I really don't think "JonInNortheastGA" has the same ring to it. I've been pondering an eventual name change (if we ever get rid of the contractors here & get the house sold down there so we can finish moving[/i]) to "Behind Enemy Lines".

Nah. Don't change it. Your handle has a nice ring to it.

JPhillips · 10-17-2006, 09:35 PM

When I lived in MS it was BPT. Quite common for blacks and whites to use the term.

Groundhog · 10-17-2006, 09:38 PM

I'd never heard of C.P.T. until today, and I'd never heard of H.N.I.C. until I did an acronym search a few months ago.

Of course, that's probably pretty understandable considering where I'm living.

Tigercat · 10-18-2006, 01:19 AM

I've heard of HNIC, but only from the movie Lean On Me.

Oddly enough, I've heard the phrase "Indian time" which is used in similiar ways it sounds like as CPT, only in and around Native American communities. But I've never heard of CPT before....

Ben E Lou · 10-18-2006, 04:45 AM

For those that have never heard of it, watch the video. A brutha interviews her, and a dozen or so callers sure know what it means.

wade moore · 10-18-2006, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

It must be a Middle Georgia thang, you North-Georgia-Yankeefied-Middle-Georgia WANNABE!!!!

FWIW, I thought everyone knew the term CPT also.

JeffW · 10-18-2006, 05:51 AM

I've never heard CPT or HNIC, but I thought the Urban Dictionary top definition was pretty funny:

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1. HNIC
133 up, 6 down

acronym for Head Nigga In Charge

Contrary to public opinion,

*slams fist on table*

IM TEH HEAD NIGGA IN CHARGE!!!!

Pumpy Tudors · 10-18-2006, 06:48 AM

I'd never heard of "CPT" before. I am such an assblack.

Fidatelo · 10-18-2006, 08:21 AM

Ice Cube says CPT in the song Chin Check from the Next Friday soundtrack, but I always thought it stood for Compton.

oykib · 10-18-2006, 08:43 AM

My favorite part of the video is where the News guy says, "Before you get out of here..."

I love it when Journalists are trying their damnedest to appear impartial when they know and the audience knows the person their interviewing is full of it. It's great how he breaks down in the end.

Alan T · 10-18-2006, 08:56 AM

Same here, never heard CPT before, even after living 21 years in Atlanta.

GoldenEagle · 10-18-2006, 09:06 AM

I have heard blacks, whites, and mexicans use it. It was a pretty common teasing term when I was growing up.

Ksyrup · 10-18-2006, 09:40 AM

*Whatever number we're up to* ditto.

Eaglesfan27 · 10-18-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I'd never heard of "CPT" before. I am such an assblack.

I'm surprised. I heard it quite a bit in New Orleans. I had never heard the term before I moved from NJ to New Orleans. Of course, it could have been a function of working in a civil service job. It was mostly black co-workers that I heard using the term.

Crapshoot · 10-18-2006, 12:36 PM

Indians in particular are familiar with I.S.T - Indian Standard Time. Basic rule means that if a dinner is as 7:30, showing up before 8:45 is bordeline rude, and at 7:30 itself is just nuts. So yeah, I can relate.

Mustang · 10-18-2006, 12:43 PM

Never heard CPT either. Have had people refer to individual's such as "Dan Time" or "Bob Time" but not CPT....

digamma · 10-18-2006, 01:17 PM

Definitely heard the term growing up.

Young Drachma · 10-18-2006, 02:58 PM

I've heard it before, too. But mostly from growing up and then later in the Air Force. Not now, obviously.

wade moore · 10-18-2006, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I've heard it before, too. But mostly from growing up and then later in the Air Force. Not now, obviously.

Why obviously?

GoldenEagle · 10-18-2006, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Why obviously?

I am guessing it is since he lives in Wyoming.

oliegirl · 10-18-2006, 03:21 PM

Put me on the list of people who had never heard CPT before...and I've been in Atlanta for 26 years...

SuperGrover · 10-18-2006, 06:09 PM

I use this term daily as my roommate is not very punctual.

Of course, he refers to me as "cracker," "whitey" and "bruce." all the time. Don't get the last one.

M GO BLUE!!! · 10-18-2006, 06:38 PM

CPT works for caucasian peoples too...

(I am 15 minutes late for everything.)

JonInMiddleGA · 10-18-2006, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Why obviously?

Wyoming is about 95% white and only slightly more than 1% black.

TheOhioStateUniversity · 10-18-2006, 07:39 PM

Fidatelo that CPT is different and is indeed an abbreviation for Compton.

wade moore · 10-18-2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Wyoming is about 95% white and only slightly more than 1% black.

Ah, duh, I should have realized that...

Maybe they just call it DCT in Wyoming?

10-17-2006, 08:27 PM	#3
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	SD, is that a common euphemism that I've missed? I can't say that I've ever heard CPT period, colored, certain, or otherwise. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

10-17-2006, 08:33 PM	#5
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	A few links, Jon: Here's a parody news web site: hxxp://www.deadbrain.com/news/article_2003_09_21_5343.php http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colored_People's_Time __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

10-17-2006, 08:43 PM	#8
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	You have to have spent a good bit of time around black people (not assimilated ones, either) to have heard that term. That's why it surprised me that JiMGA hasn't heard it. It's like HNIC--definitely something we'd use around white people, but only after establishing a certain level of comfort with them. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

10-17-2006, 08:43 PM	#9
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	triple ditto __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-17-2006, 08:49 PM	#11
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Now see, HNIC is one I know, heard that one at least as far back as high school (oddly enough, used to describe an extremely white basketball coach). But darned if I ever heard CPT before (or if I did, it completely sailed over my head & didn't register). __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

10-17-2006, 08:26 PM	#2
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	And here you'd think that there were no racial issues in town.

10-17-2006, 08:52 PM	#12
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I have heard people use CPT before.

10-17-2006, 09:07 PM	#18
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	HNIC, OPP I've heard before.. CPT never. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

10-17-2006, 09:35 PM	#20
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	When I lived in MS it was BPT. Quite common for blacks and whites to use the term. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

10-17-2006, 09:38 PM	#21
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I'd never heard of C.P.T. until today, and I'd never heard of H.N.I.C. until I did an acronym search a few months ago. Of course, that's probably pretty understandable considering where I'm living. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

10-18-2006, 01:19 AM	#22
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	I've heard of HNIC, but only from the movie Lean On Me. Oddly enough, I've heard the phrase "Indian time" which is used in similiar ways it sounds like as CPT, only in and around Native American communities. But I've never heard of CPT before.... Last edited by Tigercat : 10-18-2006 at 01:20 AM.

10-18-2006, 04:45 AM	#23
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	For those that have never heard of it, watch the video. A brutha interviews her, and a dozen or so callers sure know what it means. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

10-18-2006, 06:48 AM	#26
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I'd never heard of "CPT" before. I am such an assblack. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

10-18-2006, 08:21 AM	#27
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	Ice Cube says CPT in the song Chin Check from the Next Friday soundtrack, but I always thought it stood for Compton. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

10-18-2006, 08:43 AM	#28
oykib College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	My favorite part of the video is where the News guy says, "Before you get out of here..." I love it when Journalists are trying their damnedest to appear impartial when they know and the audience knows the person their interviewing is full of it. It's great how he breaks down in the end.

10-18-2006, 08:56 AM	#29
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Same here, never heard CPT before, even after living 21 years in Atlanta.

10-18-2006, 09:06 AM	#30
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I have heard blacks, whites, and mexicans use it. It was a pretty common teasing term when I was growing up. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

10-18-2006, 09:40 AM	#31
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Whatever number we're up to ditto. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-18-2006, 12:36 PM	#33
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Indians in particular are familiar with I.S.T - Indian Standard Time. Basic rule means that if a dinner is as 7:30, showing up before 8:45 is bordeline rude, and at 7:30 itself is just nuts. So yeah, I can relate.

10-18-2006, 12:43 PM	#34
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	Never heard CPT either. Have had people refer to individual's such as "Dan Time" or "Bob Time" but not CPT.... __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

10-18-2006, 01:17 PM	#35
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	Definitely heard the term growing up.

10-18-2006, 02:58 PM	#36
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I've heard it before, too. But mostly from growing up and then later in the Air Force. Not now, obviously.

10-18-2006, 06:09 PM	#40
SuperGrover Mascot Join Date: Jan 2004	I use this term daily as my roommate is not very punctual. Of course, he refers to me as "cracker," "whitey" and "bruce." all the time. Don't get the last one.

10-18-2006, 06:38 PM	#41
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	CPT works for caucasian peoples too... (I am 15 minutes late for everything.)

10-18-2006, 07:39 PM	#43
TheOhioStateUniversity High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, GA via Columbus, OH	Fidatelo that CPT is different and is indeed an abbreviation for Compton. __________________ Buckeyes Football/Basketball >>>> Your Favorite School

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