Clippers First, Lakers Not

Chief Rum · 11-09-2006, 01:01 AM

Hey Lakers fans,

Here's some salt for that wound.

It's been a nice fantasy week for you guys, thinking Bynum has arrived and that Odom was going to keep averaging 25 ppg-plus when Kobe came back, but isn't about time to recognize you're still the second best team in the arena?

Fouts · 11-09-2006, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Hey Lakers fans,

Here's some salt for that wound.

It's been a nice fantasy week for you guys, thinking Bynum has arrived and that Odom was going to keep averaging 25 ppg-plus when Kobe came back, but isn't about time to recognize you're still the second best team in the arena?

This is funny. I like the Clippers, but until they do something in the post-season, its hard to take them seriously. They will be the red headed stepchild for a long time.

SackAttack · 11-09-2006, 03:45 AM

Nearly making the NBA Finals wasn't good enough last year to qualify as 'doing something'?

Fouts · 11-09-2006, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Nearly making the NBA Finals wasn't good enough last year to qualify as 'doing something'?

Nope.

SackAttack · 11-09-2006, 03:49 AM

Good luck winning 50 with that gimpy knee, Fouts.

But let me guess, the fact that the Lakers have managed to do less than the Clippers since Shaq left is irrelevant, right?

Fouts · 11-09-2006, 03:52 AM

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Los Angeles Lakers (NBA, 1961-2006) - 9 Championships and 42 Playoff Appearances

Los Angeles Clippers (NBA, 1985-2006) - 4 Playoff Appearances

The Clippers have a long road ahead. Lets refresh this thread in 10+ years.

Chief Rum · 11-09-2006, 09:05 AM

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The Clippers have a long road ahead. Lets refresh this thread in 10+ years.

Y'all can try and push it off all you want. Fact is, three years running now, we're the better team. So nyah-nyah. And, P.S., get used to it.

We have done more in the playoffs more recently than the purple & gold.

Followers of fallen franchises with nothing else to go on speak of their history and tradition. Winners speak of the here and now. Welcome to a what have you done for me lately world.

stevew · 11-09-2006, 09:10 AM

The clippers have a good squad, and if Livingston reaches a high level, i see no reason why they can't contend for the title for the next 3-5 years, before Brand gets too old. Other than the fact that they are the clippers, of course.

Fouts · 11-09-2006, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Y'all can try and push it off all you want. Fact is, three years running now, we're the better team. So nyah-nyah. And, P.S., get used to it.

We have done more in the playoffs more recently than the purple & gold.

Followers of fallen franchises with nothing else to go on speak of their history and tradition. Winners speak of the here and now. Welcome to a what have you done for me lately world.

You don't get it. Making the NBA finals is what its all about. Otherwise, its a losing season. By those standards, the clippers have always been losers.

Are you thinking the clippers are going to the NBA finals this year? Or even in the next 10 years?

jbmagic · 11-09-2006, 09:33 AM

The Lakers will end with the better record than the Clippers this season.

Last season, Clippers only manange to be two games better than us in the standing.

heybrad · 11-09-2006, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Followers of fallen franchises with nothing else to go on speak of their history and tradition. Winners speak of the here and now. Welcome to a what have you done for me lately world.

Losers pound their chest over their few moments of glory even though they are clearly few and far between.

The Clippers got eliminated in the 2nd round last year. YEA, GO TEAM! WE RULE!

What's more likely to happen? The Clippers win a title with Donald Sterling as their owner or he somehow fucks up his current roster as he always seems to do.

The Lakers stay down for an extended period of time or they are contending for a title in a few years like they always seem to do.

albionmoonlight · 11-09-2006, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

You don't get it. Making the NBA finals is what its all about.

I have no dog in this fight.

However, to me this seems like a very strange place to draw the line at "what its all about."

I can see saying that winning the NBA title is what it is all about. And I can see saying that making the playoffs is what it is all about.

I can't see why making (but not winning) the finals is some sort of special place.

John Galt · 11-09-2006, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

The Lakers will end with the better record than the Clippers this season.

Last season, Clippers only manange to be two games better than us in the standing.

The Lakers did look much better in the preseason.

Oilers9911 · 11-09-2006, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

The Lakers will end with the better record than the Clippers this season.

Last season, Clippers only manange to be two games better than us in the standing.

jbmagic says lakers will good this year. lakers will now be in shitter. win 25 games.

rkmsuf · 11-09-2006, 01:54 PM

predicition:

kobe bryant is sacked at least 4 times next game

Eaglesfan27 · 11-09-2006, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by John Galt

The Lakers did look much better in the preseason.

Karlifornia · 11-09-2006, 01:55 PM

I like how Clippers fans in this thread are saying things like "Fans of fallen franchises can only talk trash about the past, while winners can talk here and now."

When the Lakers were dominant in the 80's and early 2000's, did they even care about the Clippers? They didn't talk trash about the Clippers, because NOBODY CARED ABOUT THE CLIPPERS BESIDES BILLY CRYSTAL.

Oh, and by the way....it's an 82 game season. The Clippers have played 5 games. A lot can happen in 77 games. ACL's can tear, team chemistry can fall apart.....Let's wait a minute before planning the Clippers' championship parade.

SunDevil · 11-09-2006, 01:57 PM

I have always wondered what it looks like from the outside looking in when us Red Sox fans are talking shit to Yankee fans. Besides the missing accents and give or take 200 million in payroll, I think I caught a glimpse.

::Grabs popcorn::

You may proceed.

Ksyrup · 11-09-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I have no dog in this fight.

However, to me this seems like a very strange place to draw the line at "what its all about."

I can see saying that winning the NBA title is what it is all about. And I can see saying that making the playoffs is what it is all about.

I can't see why making (but not winning) the finals is some sort of special place.

In the context of this thread, I agree with this post.

However, I have to ask...what the hell does past history have to do with how good a team is or is not this year? For that matter, what do the teams' relative records a week into the season have to do with how good they may or may not be during this season?

At least the initial post had a

. Fouts seems to be completely serious about his Yankee-like line of defense/reasoning.

Ksyrup · 11-09-2006, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevil

I have always wondered what it looks like from the outside looking in when us Red Sox fans are talking shit to Yankee fans. Besides the missing accents and give or take 200 million in payroll, I think I caught a glimpse.

::Grabs popcorn::

You may proceed.

I guess I wasn't the only one to see the similarities...

heybrad · 11-09-2006, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

At least the initial post had a

. Fouts seems to be completely serious about his Yankee-like line of defense/reasoning.

I'm going to add this in so that from this point forward, my posts should be taken in a happy context.

jbmagic · 11-09-2006, 02:14 PM

I see the Lakers winning at least 50 games this season bearing no major injury to Kobe.

We have a young nucleus of players thats getting better. Also we have a deeper bench this year.

k0ruptr · 11-09-2006, 02:57 PM

QB bryant looking good.

Pumpy Tudors · 11-09-2006, 03:03 PM

The Celtics have 15 championships. We might as well crown their ass right now. Not even the Lakers can touch that. We'll see who's talking when Bill Russell wins the MVP again this season.

rkmsuf · 11-09-2006, 03:08 PM

lamar odom no cause problems

stevew · 11-09-2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

I see the Lakers winning at least 50 games this season bearing no major injury to Kobe.

We have a young nucleus of players thats getting better. Also we have a deeper bench this year.

This thread will go to epic proportions because of this post.

Personally I see the lakers as more of a 42-40 type of team.

jbmagic · 11-09-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

This thread will go to epic proportions because of this post.

Personally I see the lakers as more of a 42-40 type of team.

I Guess you don't really follow the Lakers much. They are deeper and much improve from last season and almost took the Suns down in the playoffs.

They won 47 games last year, no way they going to only win 40-42 games this season.

Ksyrup · 11-09-2006, 03:20 PM

He follow Lakerss like you follow Raidr.

SunDevil · 11-09-2006, 03:21 PM

I like it so much more when people do not quote Jbmagic's posts. That way the ignore feature on this forum actually works....

stevew · 11-09-2006, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

I Guess you don't really follow the Lakers much. They are deeper and much improve from last season and almost took the Suns down in the playoffs.

They won 47 games last year, no way they going to only win 40-42 games this season.

Lets see, they added Radmanovic and a rookie PG? They are decent enough I suppose. Surely you don't expect Walton to average 15ppg the whole season? Kobe has knee problems, and that is enough for me to slightly downgrade the team. He may be fine, but no matter what, you won't win 50 games if he misses any serious stretch of games.

stevew · 11-09-2006, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevil

I like it so much more when people do not quote Jbmagic's posts. That way the ignore feature on this forum actually works....

Sorry good point.

Then you miss out on the good ones though.

Pumpy Tudors · 11-09-2006, 03:32 PM

smush parker have time to do his thing

50 wins easy

Ksyrup · 11-09-2006, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevil

I like it so much more when people do not quote Jbmagic's posts. That way the ignore feature on this forum actually works....

Judging the contents of a post without reading it is like...oh, I don't know...judging a game's AI without playing the game.

SunDevil · 11-09-2006, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Judging the contents of a post without reading it is like...oh, I don't know...judging a game's AI without playing the game.

Touche. Point taken. But Jbmagic has worked so hard to get on my ignore list, that it would be shame to let him down now.

jbmagic · 11-09-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Lets see, they added Radmanovic and a rookie PG? They are decent enough I suppose. Surely you don't expect Walton to average 15ppg the whole season? Kobe has knee problems, and that is enough for me to slightly downgrade the team. He may be fine, but no matter what, you won't win 50 games if he misses any serious stretch of games.

Bynum, Walton, Brown, Odom, Farmar, Cook, Radmanovic, Turiaf are all young players improving.

Radmanovic is getting over a hand injury. Kawame Brown improve near the end and I see him getting better when he comes back from injury too.

Like I said above If Kobe doesn't have a serious injury, I see the Lakers easy winning 50 games this season and improving on 47 wins from last year.

Kobe has a great young supporting cast this season.

rexallllsc · 11-09-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by heybrad

What's more likely to happen? The Clippers win a title with Donald Sterling as their owner or he somehow fucks up his current roster as he always seems to do.

The Lakers stay down for an extended period of time or they are contending for a title in a few years like they always seem to do.

Well, they did give Kaman that 10.5 mil/year contract. OUCH.

MrBug708 · 11-09-2006, 07:10 PM

JB. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

Fouts · 11-09-2006, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

In the context of this thread, I agree with this post.

However, I have to ask...what the hell does past history have to do with how good a team is or is not this year? For that matter, what do the teams' relative records a week into the season have to do with how good they may or may not be during this season?

At least the initial post had a

. Fouts seems to be completely serious about his Yankee-like line of defense/reasoning.

Just debating the topic, and not tearing down the people involved. You should try it out.

Fouts · 11-09-2006, 07:49 PM

Stayed up too late last night, and it looks like I was making a case for best franchise.

As far as best team between the lakers and clippers, its too early to tell for this year. The last 2 years they were pretty even.

Chief Rum · 11-09-2006, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Stayed up too late last night, and it looks like I was making a case for best franchise.

As far as best team between the lakers and clippers, its too early to tell for this year. The last 2 years they were pretty even.

If by "pretty" you mean "worse than the Clippers", then yes, I agree.

Seriously, I bait because I love. The only fans more fun to bait around SoCal are loser Raiders fans who don't realize the team skedaddled 12 years ago.

Actually, the Lakers are my second favorite team in the NBA--a distant second, but still. Nothing would please me more than to see both squads do really well this year, and start to get a real rivalry going.

So keep that all in mind when I say this...

LAAAAAAKKKKKEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRSSSS SUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!

MrBug708 · 11-09-2006, 11:01 PM

Keep in mind Chief. The Angels won a WS title a few years ago and there was this sudden Angel Renassiance. But the Dodgers go and break there own attendance record....

It's still a Lakers town and always will be.

stevew · 11-09-2006, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

Bynum, Walton, Brown, Odom, Farmar, Cook, Radmanovic, Turiaf are all young players improving.

Radmanovic is getting over a hand injury. Kawame Brown improve near the end and I see him getting better when he comes back from injury too.

Like I said above If Kobe doesn't have a serious injury, I see the Lakers easy winning 50 games this season and improving on 47 wins from last year.

Kobe has a great young supporting cast this season.

oh, okay, lakers looking good in preseason then.

young players give sg Kobe time to do his thing,

Chief Rum · 11-09-2006, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Keep in mind Chief. The Angels won a WS title a few years ago and there was this sudden Angel Renassiance. But the Dodgers go and break there own attendance record....

It's still a Lakers town and always will be.

Angels are breaking their own attendance records every year, too, you know. And they're doing it in a smaller stadium further away from the population center of the LA metro area.

And, BTW, the Lakers can have the darn town. I could care less. CLIIIIIIPPEEEEEERRS RUUUUUUUULLLLLLLEEEE!!

Chief Rum · 11-09-2006, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

oh, okay, lakers looking good in preseason then.

young players give sg Kobe time to do his thing,

steve, you should have heard the talk radio around here. Lakers this, Lakers that. Bynum isn't just going to be great, he already is, and we won't trade him straight up for KG. Odom is finally going to be a superstar. Walton is going to keep averaging 13-15 points. Etc. Etc.

Honestly, it's sick. Lakers fans don't have a clue how they sound when they're gushing about their team. It does sound a lot like Red Sox fans, as someone kinda referred to earlier.

But, like I said, I like the Lakers and Kobe is one of my favorite players, so I can't argue too much. It's just really funny.

Oilers9911 · 11-09-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

I see the Lakers winning at least 50 games this season bearing no major injury to Kobe.

Barring no injury or sexual assaults by Kobe. Kobe is a very talented player but I can't stand the prick.

stevew · 11-09-2006, 11:52 PM

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Barring no injury or sexual assaults by Kobe.

He's still out trying to find the "real rapists" and bring them to justice.

Danny · 11-10-2006, 12:26 AM

This is like the fat kid picking on the captain of the football team because he did his first pushup.

Chief Rum · 11-10-2006, 01:24 AM

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This is like the fat kid picking on the captain of the football team because he did his first pushup.

No, it's more like the younger, more athletic less experienced kid picking on the cracked up old former captain of the football team who last played like a star three years ago--while his millions of starry-eyed fans watch on in abject horror and disbelief.

Neuqua · 11-10-2006, 01:32 AM

Did someone hack into Chief's account?

MrBug708 · 11-10-2006, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911

Barring no injury or sexual assaults by Kobe. Kobe is a very talented player but I can't stand the prick.

Kobe didn't miss any games the first time around did he? I think he'd only get smarter about it..

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SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Nearly making the NBA Finals wasn't good enough last year to qualify as 'doing something'?

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SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Good luck winning 50 with that gimpy knee, Fouts. But let me guess, the fact that the Lakers have managed to do less than the Clippers since Shaq left is irrelevant, right?

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stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	The clippers have a good squad, and if Livingston reaches a high level, i see no reason why they can't contend for the title for the next 3-5 years, before Brand gets too old. Other than the fact that they are the clippers, of course.

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jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	The Lakers will end with the better record than the Clippers this season. Last season, Clippers only manange to be two games better than us in the standing.

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jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	I see the Lakers winning at least 50 games this season bearing no major injury to Kobe. We have a young nucleus of players thats getting better. Also we have a deeper bench this year.

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MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	JB. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

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Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Stayed up too late last night, and it looks like I was making a case for best franchise. As far as best team between the lakers and clippers, its too early to tell for this year. The last 2 years they were pretty even.

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MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Keep in mind Chief. The Angels won a WS title a few years ago and there was this sudden Angel Renassiance. But the Dodgers go and break there own attendance record.... It's still a Lakers town and always will be.

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