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Old 02-16-2007, 10:42 AM   #2201
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Gram also says that he has a large dog (weimeraner)
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Old 02-16-2007, 10:46 AM   #2202
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I find nothing for Gram with a forum search for "high school" and "played football" that gives any indication that he did.
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Old 02-16-2007, 10:48 AM   #2203
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Good info on Jon Lathum... I agree with you probably on that.. I hate to say I don't know much about Anxiety or Gramm or well any of them.. Anxiety's seem all pretty much focused on the same type of thing. My guess is the stripper one is your first instinct of saying "Why would someone admit to that??" Which makes me think it might be true.

Anxiety:
I have dated a Miss America contestant.
I have slept with a stripper
I have had an exclusive relationship with a girl who later went on to star in a Hollywood studio movie.

For Gramm, I wonder if his "lie" is one of just technicalities.. ie: he doesn't have one dog.. but instead has two dogs? Maybe its something I can do forum searches to see if he ever talks about it anywhere previously.

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I am a Junior Olympics Champion
I was a High School Football Player
I have one dog

The golden girls thing sounds like something that might be on nick at night or something when he gets ready in the mornings. I'll check his local listings to see if it plays in the mornings. I am guessing that is believable. My guess would be the strawberries one might be false?

Pass (even from the dead):
I watch the Golden Girls in the morning while getting ready for work.
I get grossed out at the sight of strawberries.
There is a gay porn star with the same name as me
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Old 02-16-2007, 10:49 AM   #2204
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sorry, my post might be dated. I hit send then stepped away from the desk. came back and saw the hourglass so hit send again. let me catch up on what I missed.
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Old 02-16-2007, 10:51 AM   #2205
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Anxiety:
I have slept with a stripper
I have had an exclusive relationship with a girl who later went on to star in a Hollywood studio movie.

It's 50/50 on Anxiety
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Old 02-16-2007, 10:54 AM   #2206
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you know we never really talked about Mr. W being killed yesterday with the hard challenge. any thoughts on it or the attack/kill/death on Pass today?

I personally think yesterday's death of Mr.W was because someone on this team didn't want a helsing majority, and that helped make that true. I assume it was to also help make me dead, but either way I think it incriminates both Path and Swaggs. I think path's actions and vote yesterday makes me feel better about him than Swaggs though.

I think last night's death says a few things. It wasn't a lupus member who was going to die nor Jonathan obviously... so that left Pass, Gramm and ITC... Why not ITC? is he truly the convert despite my original thoughts? Do they just want us to think that and vote him off for it? Because of yesterday's vote framing by the howard team, I had started believing cronin wasn't the convert.. and if there even is a convert it might have been ardent. Now I wonder how ITC does play into that. I also wonder why Pass and not Gramm.. Pass had a good amount of heat on him including from his former team due to his part in what happened...
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:00 AM   #2207
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Hmm golden girls is on at 8am on Life channel it seems.. So I guess technically Pass could watch golden girls before work.
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:03 AM   #2208
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Anxiety dated the following:

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...pper#post67264
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:05 AM   #2209
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oh woops, lathum already pointed that thread out.. ugh just catching up still.

Well he dated both a miss america, stripper and actress.. I guess the question is which is more likely:

He slept with the stripper he dated or he had an exclusive relationship with the actress AND the actress ended up going to star in a hollywood studio movie

My guess is the stripper one is more likely to have happened
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:07 AM   #2210
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I vote all 3 are lies
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:07 AM   #2211
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Anxiety:
I have dated a Miss America contestant.
I have slept with a stripper
I have had an exclusive relationship with a girl who later went on to star in a Hollywood studio movie.

Grammaticus:
I am a Junior Olympics Champion
I was a High School Football Player
I have one dog

Jonathan:
1) I have written a novel
2) I am fluent in German
3) I shaved my head in mourning after the Steelers lost the AFC Championship in 1995

Pass (even from the dead):
I watch the Golden Girls in the morning while getting ready for work.
I get grossed out at the sight of strawberries.
There is a gay porn star with the same name as me



My guesses in bold.. So reading back.. Lathum about jon did you say he had written a novel?
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:10 AM   #2212
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My guesses in bold.. So reading back.. Lathum about jon did you say he had written a novel?

he is listed as a graduate of some writing school, i posted the link.
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:11 AM   #2213
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so that left Pass, Gramm and ITC... Why not ITC? is he truly the convert despite my original thoughts? Do they just want us to think that and vote him off for it? Because of yesterday's vote framing by the howard team, I had started believing cronin wasn't the convert.. and if there even is a convert it might have been ardent. Now I wonder how ITC does play into that. I also wonder why Pass and not Gramm.. Pass had a good amount of heat on him including from his former team due to his part in what happened...

ITC might be the convert, but I'm kind of the mind that the wolves might see Pass and Gramm as bigger threats since ITC is new.
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:13 AM   #2214
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Gramm could have more than one dog. I didn't see anything that said how many he had, just the one large weimeraner.
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:14 AM   #2215
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Found this thread where Jonathan gives advice on getting published. He didnt say he had a novel though.. but it helps me think he might..

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...te#post1016281
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:15 AM   #2216
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he is listed as a graduate of some writing school, i posted the link.


kk sorry if I missed that link part. Work is a bit busier for me today than normal (since its friday) so trying to do this and router configs at the same time

I just posted a link that I think goes with what you found.. I think the german part sounds right to me..
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:17 AM   #2217
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I'm striking out on the forum searches for Pass.
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:18 AM   #2218
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And Lathum referenced this earlier.. but here is the link to pass having a gay porn star's name:

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...%22#post760693

I can't find anything about pass and golden girls or strawberries though.
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:19 AM   #2219
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With Pass it will be 50/50:

Stawberries or golden girls.


For the rest of them I believe the bolded answers are correct:

Anxiety:
I have dated a Miss America contestant.
I have slept with a stripper
I have had an exclusive relationship with a girl who later went on to star in a Hollywood studio movie.

Grammaticus:
I am a Junior Olympics Champion
I was a High School Football Player
I have one dog

Jonathan:
1) I have written a novel
2) I am fluent in German
3) I shaved my head in mourning after the Steelers lost the AFC Championship in 1995

Pass (even from the dead):
I watch the Golden Girls in the morning while getting ready for work.
I get grossed out at the sight of strawberries.
There is a gay porn star with the same name as me


Not sure about Jonathan shaving his head though... Still looking into that.
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:22 AM   #2220
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Ok I guess Im not convinced that Jonathan doesn't speak fluent german.. his might be a 50/50 too
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:25 AM   #2221
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Not sure about Jonathan shaving his head though... Still looking into that.

they are gonna have a hell of a time with mine as I don't have a whole lot posted about me and I'm pretty sure I havn't mentioned any of my truths here on FOFC
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:27 AM   #2222
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they are gonna have a hell of a time with mine as I don't have a whole lot posted about me and I'm pretty sure I havn't mentioned any of my truths here on FOFC


I was just thinking the same thing.. The only person from fofc that I met in RL ever was Celeval from long ago. I might have told some stuff to people when I was in the RWBL I have no idea.. but that was years ago and the only ones in this game from there are dead (Chief Rum, Schmidty), or on this team (Swaggs).. so I feel pretty good about mine.
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:29 AM   #2223
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I was just thinking the same thing.. The only person from fofc that I met in RL ever was Celeval from long ago. I might have told some stuff to people when I was in the RWBL I have no idea.. but that was years ago and the only ones in this game from there are dead (Chief Rum, Schmidty), or on this team (Swaggs).. so I feel pretty good about mine.

I have to take that back now... I did I search of my posts

my 6th ever post I mentioned I was in the ASU band
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:31 AM   #2224
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BK

this challenge could lead to some "cheating" if people aren't honest


I noticed by searching for posts I made it shows all the posts in here (Helsing Thread) that I've made as well.

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Old 02-16-2007, 11:31 AM   #2225
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I have to take that back now... I did I search of my posts

my 6th ever post I mentioned I was in the ASU band


woops!
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:31 AM   #2226
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dola - not saying anyone would, but it's out there now
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:39 AM   #2227
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dola - not saying anyone would, but it's out there now

Yeah I noticed the same thing when I search for Jonathan + steelers and searched by post, it popped up preview boxes of some survivor threads here. I purposely chose to scan past them and ignore what they had to say. Its probably the same thing as the being honest about not reading other people's threads though.

I purposely chose that I wouldn't talk about my choices in here until after the challenge though not for that reason.. but more in case someone on this team decides to slip answers across in case the wolves are more interested in this team losing tonight instead of the other team.
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:42 AM   #2228
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I think it is best to keep out answers to ourselves.
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:23 PM   #2229
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I'm going to see the blue man group tonight, and won't be home until after deadline. I'm not leaving for another 3 hours, but conversation has kind of died down.. I haven't really found much more on stuff.. Based on what we know so far.. this is my thoughts:

Anxiety:
I have dated a Miss America contestant.
I have slept with a stripper
I have had an exclusive relationship with a girl who later went on to star in a Hollywood studio movie.

Grammaticus:
I am a Junior Olympics Champion
I was a High School Football Player
I have one dog

Jonathan:
1) I have written a novel
2) I am fluent in German
3) I shaved my head in mourning after the Steelers lost the AFC Championship in 1995

Pass (even from the dead):
I watch the Golden Girls in the morning while getting ready for work.
I get grossed out at the sight of strawberries.
There is a gay porn star with the same name as me


Anyone think a different option is a better choice for any of these?
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:37 PM   #2230
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I think with a few exceptions it is a guessing game anyway.
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:40 PM   #2231
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They look good to me
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:42 PM   #2232
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Anyone think its coiencidental that almost every one of them is the second option?
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:02 PM   #2233
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Anyone think its coiencidental that almost every one of them is the second option?

guess we'll see when we answer our lies too
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Old 02-16-2007, 02:59 PM   #2234
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I'm about to head out for the evening like I said earlier (going to blue man group tonight). Do you all want me to submit these picks then? or leave it around for further discussion and someone else will submit them later?

If no one is going to be around I'll go ahead and submit them.
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Old 02-16-2007, 03:01 PM   #2235
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Old 02-16-2007, 03:08 PM   #2236
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I say submit if no one minds


I'll wait a little bit. Haven't heard much from Swaggs in a while, but everyone else has been around to say something one way or another. I don't mind leaving it for someone else to submit later, just don't want to take a chance on no one being around.
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Old 02-16-2007, 03:14 PM   #2237
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Woops, looks like I need to go now. I'm going to submit the following as a conditional answers with the instructions if a later answer is sent in from this team to accept it over this one. That way anyone who wants to send in revised answers if they choose to can.

Anxiety
I have had an exclusive relationship with a girl who later went on to star in a Hollywood studio movie.

Grammaticus:
I was a High School Football Player


Jonathan:
2) I am fluent in German


Pass (even from the dead):
I get grossed out at the sight of strawberries.
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Old 02-16-2007, 03:14 PM   #2238
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Old 02-16-2007, 04:36 PM   #2239
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No problem with sending that list here.
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Old 02-16-2007, 09:00 PM   #2240
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Alan DID submit i hope
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Old 02-16-2007, 09:01 PM   #2241
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NOW you bring that up!
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Old 02-16-2007, 09:02 PM   #2242
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yeah I submitted them before I left
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Old 02-16-2007, 09:05 PM   #2243
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I submitted them again just in case.
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Old 02-16-2007, 10:34 PM   #2244
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Two of these statements are true. One is not. Hopefully you can discern the truth.

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1. There has been a conversion
2. One of the tribes has no wolves
3. The wolf from the original Helsing tribe is still alive
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Old 02-16-2007, 10:48 PM   #2245
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Two of these statements are true. One is not. Hopefully you can discern the truth.

Interesting.

I know the other tribe has a wolf, so perhaps ours does not.

How many original Helsings do we have in our tribe?
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Old 02-16-2007, 10:50 PM   #2246
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I would guess you could get it down to a 50/50 shot on this unless the wolves don't know eachother and killed one of their own.

I would guess you could eliminate #3.

of the original Helsing

Me
Alan
Lathum
Gram
Pass
Mr. W

two are dead by wolf attacks (Pass & Mr. W)

so that leaves four of us.

again unless the wolves don't know eachother and took one of their own out I would guess this one is still true.
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Old 02-16-2007, 10:51 PM   #2247
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Interesting.

I know the other tribe has a wolf, so perhaps ours does not.

How many original Helsings do we have in our tribe?

3
Alan, Lathum and I
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Old 02-16-2007, 10:54 PM   #2248
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I'd agree with you, SnDvls.

I think #3 is the most likely to be true.

I would guess that #1 is the lie.
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Old 02-16-2007, 10:59 PM   #2249
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alan - to touch on our lies

we all put #3 as our lie, but Swaggs he listed #2 as his
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Could #2 refer to the original tribes and Oz?
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