Werewolf XLV - ROME! (Game over, post 3425)

[Chief Rum]

Not sure if we can get things going for the new plan today, but here goes (suggested bids after name):

The following are the wealthiest men in Rome:

Ardentus Enthusiastus--sex slaves
Kayus Whitus--sword killer


The following Romans are extremely wealthy:

Abeus Anxietus--a bodyguard
Passus Caglius--the philosopher
Pathus Twelveus--narcizo lawyer

The following Romans are of moderate wealth:

Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus--sword killer
Coffeus Yakus Warlordus--bodyguard
Grammus Atticus--ardent lawyer (in case Narc doesn't get back to see this before deadline)
Ironus Headus--sex slaves
Narcizus Lispus--ardent lawyer

The following remaining Romans are of normal wealth:

Autumnus Leavus--philosopher
Chiefus Rumus--narcizo lawyer
Chubbus Chubbus
Daddus Torgous--bodyguard
Mustangus Sallus
Tyrus Ithus--sword killer

I don't think Chubby or Mustang will check in, but if they do, they can announce whomever they want to bid on and bid them.

[Passacaglia]

Are you sure about asking KWhit to bid on the killer, CR?

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I don't think Chubby or Mustang will check in, but if they do, they can announce whomever they want to bid on and bid them.

Don't even remotely compare my activity to Chubby.

[Abe Sargent]

As en enjailed person, I cannot bid for services, CR

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I'd like to know who beat me for Tititus last night.

There seems to be a lot of missing info, all through the game on who got what. We've focused a lot of attention on the wealthy who may have been grabbing things. But I'm also getting suspicious of anyone who I don't have a service bid history on, or who says they haven't bid on anything. Some of those people must have been secretly bidding for the hidden services.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

My comments? Basically, you're being an idiot. I cannot fathom how the line of 'logic' winds up with this 99999% certainty I'm a bad guy.

When you DO lynch me, and please do, 'cause pretty much noone has listened to me the entire bloody game, I invite everyone to read and COMPREHEND everything I've posted. Not one word the entire game has been untrue.

Not exactly the defense I was hoping to see.

[Abe Sargent]

How long are we going to lynch good guys while the silent Chubby continues to be so vastly UTR that no one remembers he's even in teh game? After today, when you see I'm a goodie, look at AE and look at Chubby.

[path12]

One thing that troubles me about the plan at this point is the fact that I'm losing trust in Ardent quickly, if for no other reason than he is still alive in a role that has had, shall we say.......turnover. I'm by no means comfortable with him bidding on the slaves and possibly blocking a consul or bodyguard or worse.

I don't have so much of a problem with KWhit getting the swordsman just because he has been cleared twice.

The other issue is that I'm not certain we're really getting any valuable information out of the bids we've made the last couple days, have we?

That said, I will go along with the consensus on this. But I had to get my doubts out there.

[Grammaticus]

I will place my bid on Ardentus.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Not exactly the defense I was hoping to see.

Pretty much all you're going to get. I stand by my posts. There's not much I can do about people inventing wild conspiracy theories that magically call me a bad guy. You either believe me or you don't, I haven't been remotely subtle all game.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

How long are we going to lynch good guys while the silent Chubby continues to be so vastly UTR that no one remembers he's even in teh game? After today, when you see I'm a goodie, look at AE and look at Chubby.

I don't mind so much lynching chubby. It would actually be bad if he just all of the sudden showed up and started playing this far into the game and we have no record to review.

But, It does not appear that you have really supported our efforts to take away hiding room from the Tarqs. Although neither has Kwhit or Ardent for that matter.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Vote Execute Anxiety

Torgo still needs to be arrested and executed tomorrow, but frankly, I think we've jailed two Tarqs. 'Course, since noone trusts me, obviously they are both good and will be allowed to live now.

Let those who have faith in me freakin' arrest AE already. All...zero of you.

Well, I've got a lot of suspicion about you myself, but I have to say I agree with you here. It makes me question myself a little, since I doubt a traitor would throw other traitors to the wolves. DT and AE are worrisome to me, especially given the position of power AE has. I wish we could issue two execution orders, as I'm sure of Anxietus, and I'm suspicious enough of DT to take a chance on him. This is the first time we've had someone jailed that I thought we had real suspicions of rather than just taking a wild chance.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

How long are we going to lynch good guys while the silent Chubby continues to be so vastly UTR that no one remembers he's even in teh game? After today, when you see I'm a goodie, look at AE and look at Chubby.

I don't think Chubby is UTR, I think he's probably lying on the floor half dead or something at this point.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Well, I've got a lot of suspicion about you myself, but I have to say I agree with you here. It makes me question myself a little, since I doubt a traitor would throw other traitors to the wolves. DT and AE are worrisome to me, especially given the position of power AE has. I wish we could issue two execution orders, as I'm sure of Anxietus, and I'm suspicious enough of DT to take a chance on him. This is the first time we've had someone jailed that I thought we had real suspicions of rather than just taking a wild chance.

And I've been screaming about them (DT and AE)...pretty much the whole game now. AE since the end of the first day, and DT not long after.

And I'm still under heavy suspicion.

See the problem I'm having here?

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

How long are we going to lynch good guys while the silent Chubby continues to be so vastly UTR that no one remembers he's even in teh game? After today, when you see I'm a goodie, look at AE and look at Chubby.

Well, I feel like we've tried the "lynch the UTR folks" thing over and over, and eihter been burned, or lied to. I'd say it's time to start arresting people for actual suspicious actions. I haven't found any reason to bother looking at Chubbus myself, but Ardentus does have a reason to be examined, particularly since I'm not sure we'll be able to scan him. The second lawyer keeps getting killed.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

And I've been screaming about them (DT and AE)...pretty much the whole game now. AE since the end of the first day, and DT not long after.

And I'm still under heavy suspicion.

See the problem I'm having here?

What, we're supposed to just follow whatever you say? Then what would you be saying about us if you were wrong -- oh, I was just screaming my conjecture, I didn't have any actual evidence? Believe it or not, your word is not going to be good in and of itself here. It's enough you didn't get killed on day 2.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

What, we're supposed to just follow whatever you say? Then what would you be saying about us if you were wrong -- oh, I was just screaming my conjecture, I didn't have any actual evidence? Believe it or not, your word is not going to be good in and of itself here. It's enough you didn't get killed on day 2.

As opposed to some insane chain of "logic" that because I said I didn't get the sword guy when I bid as requested two days ago, I must be lying, and therefore a traitor?

As opposed to any freakin' evidence anyone has had this entire game? (Read: None)

Hell, I HAD a minor bit of evidence against AE when our very first lawyer bought it, and was utterly and completely ignored. Now we've watched every lawyer but him bite it time and time again, and somehow I'm still the bad guy.

[Autumn]

I'm not sure who to vote as consul. Narcizo would be my first choice, as he's maintained my trust, but he's out of the running. Chief Rum is getting a lot of votes. I'd be inclined to pick someone out of my neutral list, maybe Grammaticus, Mustangus. Anyone have a current vote count?

[Autumn]

Has Ironus Headus indicated when he'll be in today? I'm wanting to hear his arrest list.

[Autumn]

Actually looking through the posts Tyrithus seems to have a similar sense on the suspects as I do, and while quiet his posts have been on target I think. So, I will:

ELECT TYRITHUS TO CONSUL

[Barkeep49]

I see no further developments for the day. I'm likely out until after lynch, though I hope to check in briefly before I have baseball or after the baseball game (thoguh I might not be home from that until after lynch).

[Narcizo]

Coffee you question my line of reasoning and yet you expect us to believe that you would assassainate someone on a hunch? At least you're getting a trial this way. Which is a whole lot more than saldana got.

I've got to go to bed.

Vote Passa for consul

I have him high up my trust list. He seems to have talked sense and been open. Oh okay, he placed a BG on me is what it is. I would have voted Autumn or Ironhead but that's not a possibility here.

[Mustang]

At this point, I would be the 3rd layer of any bid I believe. I will place a bid on the slaves.

[Grammaticus]

I'm not sure of the best choice between the jailed. But I think I have a little more trust for DT at this point.

Vote to throw Abeus Anxietus to the rock

[Grammaticus]

I'm not sure of the best choice between the jailed. But I think I have a little more trust for DT at this point.

Vote to throw Abeus Anxietus to the rock

[Grammaticus]

Sorry for the double post, but my system hung up on me.

[Grammaticus]

Wait, is Abeeus the one that sent the sex slaves to Ardent?

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Wait, is Abeeus the one that sent the sex slaves to Ardent?

Yeah.

[Grammaticus]

Here is what I have as commited so far:

The following are the wealthiest men in Rome:

Ardentus Enthusiastus--sex slaves
Kayus Whitus--sword killer


The following Romans are extremely wealthy:

Abeus Anxietus--a bodyguard - cannot bid (jailed)
Passus Caglius--the philosopher
Pathus Twelveus--narcizo lawyer - said he would go with consensus

The following Romans are of moderate wealth:

Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus--sword killer
Coffeus Yakus Warlordus--bodyguard
Grammus Atticus--ardent lawyer (in case Narc doesn't get back to see this before deadline) - Agreed
Ironus Headus--sex slaves
Narcizus Lispus--ardent lawyer

The following remaining Romans are of normal wealth:

Autumnus Leavus--philosopher
Chiefus Rumus--narcizo lawyer
Chubbus Chubbus
Daddus Torgous--bodyguard
Mustangus Sallus - indicated he placed a bid on the slaves
Tyrus Ithus--sword killer

Not an overwhelming list of support so far, but there are still four hours to go.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Yeah.

That makes me wonder then. With absolutely no kills while Ardent was blocked with the sex slaves, it could be an issue to give more weight.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

That makes me wonder then. With absolutely no kills while Ardent was blocked with the sex slaves, it could be an issue to give more weight.

Yeah, with both kills missing it does make one wonder.

[Autumn]

I will bid for the philosopher, as per Chiefus Rumus's plan.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Here is what I have as commited so far:

The following are the wealthiest men in Rome:

Ardentus Enthusiastus--sex slaves
Kayus Whitus--sword killer


The following Romans are extremely wealthy:

Abeus Anxietus--a bodyguard - cannot bid (jailed)
Passus Caglius--the philosopher
Pathus Twelveus--narcizo lawyer - said he would go with consensus

The following Romans are of moderate wealth:

Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus--sword killer
Coffeus Yakus Warlordus--bodyguard
Grammus Atticus--ardent lawyer (in case Narc doesn't get back to see this before deadline) - Agreed
Ironus Headus--sex slaves
Narcizus Lispus--ardent lawyer

The following remaining Romans are of normal wealth:

Autumnus Leavus--philosopher - agreed
Chiefus Rumus--narcizo lawyer - asuming agreed
Chubbus Chubbus
Daddus Torgous--bodyguard
Mustangus Sallus - indicated he placed a bid on the slaves
Tyrus Ithus--sword killer

Not an overwhelming list of support so far, but there are still four hours to go.

Updated with Autumns response

[DaddyTorgo]

just catching up on the rest of the day on the train home from work.placeholder post.

lemme be clear:I don't have a lawyer and I withdrew my bid for the lawyer anyways. and I'm jail and innocent.

if I had to name my suspects they'd likely cme frm the "abe,ae,cw" trio fwiw. if you toss me from the rock you're just killing a loyal roman senator...so if you think abe is working for good then vote for me I guess cuz he has more $$. but if you have any doubts toss him. it'll just bump everyone 1 notch up on the $$ scale.

so I guess it comes down to "kill the poor innocent or the rich shady guy" if you boil it down.

[Autumn]

So far for consul vote I have:

CR 6
Pass 3
Grammaticus 1
Tyrus Ithus 1

[Tyrith]

Alright, I'm going to be leaving in about half an hour until after the lynch. I'm going to keep my free trip award vote on Anxiety, because for better or worse I think we have to test him now and start to unravel the conspiracy.

[path12]

OK. When faced with voting for two people I think are good, my strategy is going to be to vote for the one with the least votes:

THROW DT FROM THE ROCK

My arrest candidates would be Ardent and Chubby. We're past time where it is suspicious simply that he is still alive as a lawyer.

For consul: VOTE CHIEFUS RUMUS CONSUL
VOTE GRAMMATICUS CONSUL

I'd nominate myself, but I don't know how much support I have. I will place the bid for Narcizo as outlined in the plan.......since nobody responded to my concerns about the plan I guess I'm on an island there so I'll just go along with it.

[Grammaticus]

Alright Tyrith, see you later.

[Poli]

Heh, maybe I'll use that sword killer anyhow. Then someone could arrest me, you could throw me from the rock, and see I was telling the truth. As previously outlined, I may not have much time for this game over the next few days.

Come here, Warlord.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Ardent. This is kind of a valid point. How come you didn't say anything when we were talking about this earlier?
Ardentus We've had to depend on Ardentus' claims of innocence for the executed so far. He hasn't been killed despite lawyers dropping like flies. Like Kayus he has rocketed up the wealth charts. Narcizo's finding of DC as innocent puts Ardentus in better light in my books, but I'm still dubious. How many times has Ardentus's claims been corroborated by another lawyer? I almost pulled the trigger on arresting him yesterday, but didn't want to lose a scan. I'm still on the fence there.

I mentioned the fact I had the sex slaves as soon as I got back online. My brother showed up right at the lynch time (he was supposed to be my softball partner, but showed up late), and it was an hour or so before he left.

As for how many times, that would be twice. Narc and Schmidty.

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Not sure if we can get things going for the new plan today, but here goes (suggested bids after name):

The following are the wealthiest men in Rome:

Ardentus Enthusiastus--sex slaves

I'll do the sex slaves.

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Heh, maybe I'll use that sword killer anyhow. Then someone could arrest me, you could throw me from the rock, and see I was telling the truth. As previously outlined, I may not have much time for this game over the next few days.

Come here, Warlord.

And I might do the Warlord. I'm tired of his mouth.

[Poli]

And I think I'm reading garbage about the only times we didn't have a kill being when I had sex slaves. You might be an uninformed monkey if you believe that. I've had the slaves twice now. We've only had one night where someone wasn't POISONED.

[Passacaglia]

I'm not getting much of a vibe from either of these guys, and if I were, I'd probably be wrong anyway. Anxiety seems the most suspicious to me, though. As much as I hate to vote for anyone who lives in Ypsi...

VOTE ANXIETY BYE-BYE

[Passacaglia]

VOTE PASSACAGLIA CONSUL
VOTE MUSTANG CONSUL

[Ironhead]

Just got home. Catching up now. Have to admit that I was pretty disappointed with last night's outcome.

[Autumn]

I'll be awaiting your input Senator Ironus Headus. I'm still trying to formulate an arrest plan. With all the back and forth accusations today I'm unsure which camp to point at.

[Poli]

Autumn, any questions for me?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by path12

OK. When faced with voting for two people I think are good, my strategy is going to be to vote for the one with the least votes:

THROW DT FROM THE ROCK

My arrest candidates would be Ardent and Chubby. We're past time where it is suspicious simply that he is still alive as a lawyer.

For consul: VOTE CHIEFUS RUMUS CONSUL
VOTE GRAMMATICUS CONSUL

I'd nominate myself, but I don't know how much support I have. I will place the bid for Narcizo as outlined in the plan.......since nobody responded to my concerns about the plan I guess I'm on an island there so I'll just go along with it.

WOW.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT PATH's FLIP-FLOP FROM LAST NIGHT WITH NEXT-TO-NO EXPLANATION.

LAST NIGHT HE SAID HE BELIEVED EVERYTHING I SAID AND THOUGHT I WAS INNOCENT AFTER REREADING ALL OF BOTH OF OUR POSTS. AND NOW HE VOTES FOR ME!

watch that people. That's hella-wolfy

[DaddyTorgo]

wait i'm confused. Did I put in both my votes for consul already?

[st.cronin]

I have one vote from DT for Consul, for Chiefus Rumus.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I have one vote from DT for Consul, for Chiefus Rumus.

thanks crony