Spider-Man 3

Izulde · 05-04-2007, 10:14 PM

Really good in my opinion. Not as polished as 2 was, but still easily the second-best in the series.

Celeval · 05-05-2007, 12:15 PM

Meh. Too much attempted story, not enough development. Not horrid, but not up to the standard I was hoping for. C+

TheOhioStateUniversity · 05-05-2007, 12:32 PM

The love story/crying was a bit sappy and corny. Some parts were very funny though like when Spidey went Goth and thought he was a ladies man, when at best he appeared to be an asexual metrosexual and at worst he appeared to be extremely gay.

dawgfan · 05-05-2007, 12:37 PM

The movie was reasonably entertaining and had some funny bits (Bruce Campbell as the French Maitre d' and the J. Jonah Jameson bit with the blood pressure meds in particular, and Topher Grace was great in his role) and some impressive action. But to me, there was way too much story trying to be crammed in, and it was trying to hit too many emotional levels too quickly leaving some awkward plot contrivances, and some of the action was just too over-the-top showy to really be effective.

And while I love Kirsten Dunst, she still isn't the right actress for the role of Mary Jane Watson.

Swaggs · 05-05-2007, 04:10 PM

I haven't seen this yet, but I saw Bryce Dallas Howard on one of the late night shows and they showed a clip of her falling from a building and the CGI looked more like a really good video game than a realistic movie scene. I hope there isn't too much of that.

WVUFAN · 05-05-2007, 04:31 PM

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Better than 2, but watching a midget wipe his ass is better than whiny emo girl Spidey only saves people when he feels like it 2. Decent story, good acting outside of McGuire/Dunst who continue to suck, and okay action scenes that were a little too CGI heavy at times. The "enhanced" cool comedy jazz scene was the best part of it all. Barely worth the $5 AM price for it. I'll probably never watch it again.

See, I thought the complete opposite, that the jazz scene was the worst part of the film (with the exception of the mini-fight at the end of it). Dunst was horrible in the film (and never should have been Mary Jane to begin with). Bryce Howard, however, was spot-on for Gwen Stacy.

I think they could have split this into two films, the first being the Sandman storyline/black suit, and have Venom be the centerpiece for the other film. Too much stuff crammed into too little time.

Karlifornia · 05-05-2007, 04:33 PM

I don't have it in me to go see this moneygrab movies anymore.

Izulde · 05-05-2007, 06:06 PM

They did try and put a little too much in there, which is why I said it's not as polished as 2, but I found it very enjoyable. Bruce Campbell was absolutely hysterical.

Maybe it's because I never read the comics much and when I did, I was a little kid, but I don't get this hate for Kirsten Dunst as MJ. I think she's become a character that most people have grown to care about through this now-trilogy and I'd say Tobey brings to Parker an essentially human, Everyman quality. Which I think is the appeal of Spiderman as a superhero to begin with.

Swaggs · 05-05-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

They did try and put a little too much in there, which is why I said it's not as polished as 2, but I found it very enjoyable. Bruce Campbell was absolutely hysterical.

Maybe it's because I never read the comics much and when I did, I was a little kid, but I don't get this hate for Kirsten Dunst as MJ. I think she's become a character that most people have grown to care about through this now-trilogy and I'd say Tobey brings to Parker an essentially human, Everyman quality. Which I think is the appeal of Spiderman as a superhero to begin with.

Her monologue at the end of first Spiderman was some historically terrible acting. I think there was/is little that she could do to recover from that.

Doug5984 · 05-05-2007, 06:23 PM

I saw this the other night, was really looking forward to it and I left disappointed. There was way to much "comic relief" for me- seemed like a lot of one liners, that while funny took away from the movie itself. I was hoping for a lot more action, and it just wasn't there. I also thought the ending was horrible, very anti-climatic for me.

WVUFAN · 05-05-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5984

I saw this the other night, was really looking forward to it and I left disappointed. There was way to much "comic relief" for me- seemed like a lot of one liners, that while funny took away from the movie itself. I was hoping for a lot more action, and it just wasn't there. I also thought the ending was horrible, very anti-climatic for me.

I agree. It should have been ...

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Izulde · 05-05-2007, 08:53 PM

The ending drove me a little nuts, but I'm hoping it set things up for there to be a fourth installment.

stevew · 05-05-2007, 08:53 PM

I haven't gotten to see it yet, but it seems like from reviews that they crammed way too much shit into it.
Like.....

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At least it's no "Spiderman and Robin" from what I've read....with that many characters, it can easily happen.

Joe · 05-05-2007, 09:40 PM

too much Mary Jane, and crappy CGI, especially the first fight with Parker and Franco

Ryche · 05-05-2007, 10:01 PM

I really think they should have fleshed out the first half more and had the movie end with Brock becoming Venom. That whole scene ending with Venom appearing would have been an ideal way to end the movie leading to the next one featuring Venom. But I have a feeling we will be waiting quite awhile for the next one with a whole new cast and producer at that time.

I thought 2 was much better, mainly because of a much more cohesive storyline. Hard to compare it to the first Spiderman. The new one was fun and worth admission, but the story just wasn't as well thought out.

cthomer5000 · 05-06-2007, 12:44 AM

Enjoyable, but agree about simply too much going on. This and X-Men are the only popcorn flick franchises I can get behind.

The ending also drove me nuts as some others have mentioned.

dawgfan · 05-06-2007, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

Maybe it's because I never read the comics much and when I did, I was a little kid, but I don't get this hate for Kirsten Dunst as MJ. I think she's become a character that most people have grown to care about through this now-trilogy and I'd say Tobey brings to Parker an essentially human, Everyman quality. Which I think is the appeal of Spiderman as a superhero to begin with.

I'm a big Kirsten Dunst fan, and I don't get the slamming of her acting, but she was the wrong choice for this role. Kirsten Dunst's MJ is a good character and all - it's just not the MJ of the comics. Dunst's MJ is a nice girl next door. MJ in the comics was hot, knew she was hot but wasn't a bitch, sassy, brimming with self-confidence (on the outside at least). The character was so unique and iconic that it's a damn shame that character didn't make it into these movies, no matter how much I might like Dunst.

Rose MacGowan would've been a great MJ - she's not only damn close to a perfect match in terms of looks (after you dye her hair red first), but I think she could do the character as Stan Lee conceived her.

Karlifornia · 05-06-2007, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

I'm a big Kirsten Dunst fan, and I don't get the slamming of her acting, but she was the wrong choice for this role. Kirsten Dunst's MJ is a good character and all - it's just not the MJ of the comics. Dunst's MJ is a nice girl next door. MJ in the comics was hot, knew she was hot but wasn't a bitch, sassy, brimming with self-confidence (on the outside at least). The character was so unique and iconic that it's a damn shame that character didn't make it into these movies, no matter how much I might like Dunst.

Rose MacGowan would've been a great MJ - she's not only damn close to a perfect match in terms of looks (after you dye her hair red first), but I think she could do the character as Stan Lee conceived her.

And plus, all the bad guys would be toast....Rose McGowan's right leg is a machine gun!

cody8200 · 05-06-2007, 07:04 AM

I thought the movie was decent and liked the action scenes (although I think there were too few). It just seemed like there was too much of the love story, not enough action. The story drudged on for over 2 hours never really completing a whole storyline. Nevertheless, it was worth the money. Next up, Shrek 3. Then, Pirates 3.

B- overall

Joe · 05-06-2007, 09:12 AM

what was with Parker walking down the street trying to act like Shooter McGavin with the ladies? That and the scene with him dancing and playing the piano were terrible. It's like the writers had just watched Anchorman before writing the script, and tried to recreate the jazz flute scene or something.

Anthony · 05-06-2007, 10:00 AM

ii refuse to see these comic book movies anymore. i didn't see this one, but let's face it - the good guys always win. the only thing i like about the 3rd XMen movie is that people actually died in that one. when Cyclops died during the first act, i was like "ok, they killed him, but it's early and they'll find a way to bring him back to life". that was cool. still, with SpiderMan i don't need to see the movie to know he'll get his ass kicked and be on the brink and then pull it off in the end. which is why any movie involving Super Man is a complete waste.

with the cost of tickets these days i don't want to know the ending ahead of time. i took the wife to go see The Invisible, and while a part of me wanted to see Spider Man i said to myself "at least i won't know the ending of this movie". and i'm getting tired of CGI. it doesn't work. should only be used for making huge armies in sword and sandal movies or space scenes like in Star Wars. that's all. it's not realistic.

bulletsponge · 05-06-2007, 10:32 AM

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with the cost of tickets these days i don't want to know the ending ahead of time. i took the wife to go see The Invisible, and while a part of me wanted to see Spider Man i said to myself "at least i won't know the ending of this movie". and i'm getting tired of CGI. it doesn't work. should only be used for making huge armies in sword and sandal movies or space scenes like in Star Wars. that's all. it's not realistic

agreed. way to much CGI im most movies. i really hate CGI movies where most of the movie has it in it.

timmynausea · 05-06-2007, 11:36 AM

I thought this was by far the worst of the Spider-Man movies for many of the reasons already mentioned. Where the first 2 had intricate plots that boiled down to clear themes, this story was just a mess. Of course, that's probably because Sam Raimi and his brother had big hands in writing the script this time whereas the first 2 movies had big name screenwriters and even a Pulitzer Prize winning novelist (Michael Chabon) involved.

law90026 · 05-06-2007, 12:01 PM

I thought it was quite bad honestly. Too many cheesy/cliched moments for my taste. I felt they were trying to make the show "dramatic", especially with what happens near the end, but it was 1) predicatable and 2) badly acted.

I did like the Venom suit though, that was really well done.

SFL Cat · 05-06-2007, 01:50 PM

I enjoyed it. As others have said, a little too much cornball stuff and contrived sappiness here and there, but still a fun movie to watch.

Kodos · 05-07-2007, 08:58 AM

I've never been a big Spiderman fan, but my wife is, so I've seen them all. This one was okay. Not great, not bad. The part I enjoyed the most was when he was bad Spiderman and in the club. It was good for some laughs. I think Dunst can be hot, but she doesn't do it in these movies. I agree it was too weepy. Venom is the first Spiderman villian that I've liked. The Green Goblin was horrid. The guy with the machine thing in Spiderman 2 was crap. Venom was cool, although his motivation was pretty pathetic.

Cringer · 05-07-2007, 10:54 AM

Decent flick. I liked the action scenes. I think Venom kicked ass, easily my favorite thing about the movie.

mauchow · 05-07-2007, 11:23 AM

Nearly 150 Mill. I did NOT see that coming.

oliegirl · 05-07-2007, 11:51 AM

I never read comic books as a kid, so I don't know how accurate this was, but I thought the movie was really entertaining and overall, well done. I did think the Venom thing was a bit too "forced", and think that having the Sandman guy as the only villain for this one, and ending the movie with Topher Grace transforming into Venom would have been a better ending.

Swaggs · 05-07-2007, 11:54 AM

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Nearly 150 Mill. I did NOT see that coming.

Is that the biggest opening of all-time?

It will be interesting to see how they manage to extend the series, at this point. It doesn't sound like any of the primary characters (Maguire, Dunst, Franco--from some snippets I have seen, from their press appearances, all feel like the third one was pushing it) are interested in any more sequels. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'd guess a Topher Grace/Venom vehicle could be one direction, but I'm not sure that will have the same power as Spiderman, and it could end up a Ghostrider/Catwoman/Elektra-type of failure.

timmynausea · 05-07-2007, 12:04 PM

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it could end up a Ghostrider/Catwoman/Elektra-type of failure.

Not that I actually care, but Ghostrider made just under a quarter of a billion worldwide.

Also, Spider-Man 3 did set a record for opening weekend, though the official numbers aren't in yet. The previous best was Pirates of the Caribbean 2 last year at just over $135 million.

Anthony · 05-07-2007, 04:45 PM

i would sooner pay to see Venom in a movie than i would Spiderman 3.

Richard Weed · 05-07-2007, 07:15 PM

Kirsten Dunst is freakin anorexic in the movie. It drug on at parts. Overall, an average movie IMHO.

cthomer5000 · 05-07-2007, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Is that the biggest opening of all-time?

It will be interesting to see how they manage to extend the series, at this point. It doesn't sound like any of the primary characters (Maguire, Dunst, Franco--from some snippets I have seen, from their press appearances, all feel like the third one was pushing it) are interested in any more sequels.

They all seem to be of the mindset of "if everyone comes back, i'll come back." I think that's going to be the issue. We're probably either looking at everyone returning or a complete cast revamp. Sony is apparently committed to 3 more sequels, so it's coming one way or another.

What is a real shame is i belive that if they had been under contract for a 4th film, we would have gotten a better 3rd movie.

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Karlifornia · 05-08-2007, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cody8200

I thought the movie was decent and liked the action scenes (although I think there were too few). It just seemed like there was too much of the love story, not enough action. The story drudged on for over 2 hours never really completing a whole storyline. Nevertheless, it was worth the money. Next up, Shrek 3. Then, Pirates 3.

B- overall

It's always funny to see when someone has the complete opposite of your taste in something. Cody, you're like my Film Watching Antithesis!

Pyser · 05-10-2007, 12:25 PM

the onyl reason i didnt walk out of this movie was because i wanted to see how you kill sandman.

turns out the filmmakers didnt know, either.

i hated this film.

spleen1015 · 05-13-2007, 12:10 PM

I liked the characters. What they tried to do with the movie should be done in 2 movies. It has the "This will be the last one I do, so I am going cram all of the stuff I want into this movie." feel.

MikeVic · 05-14-2007, 11:02 AM

I agree that the movie should have been split into two. Quality was kind of at my expectations, but I didn't have very high expectations to begin with.

Really annoyed that they didn't play up the fact that the symbiote AND Eddie hated Parker/Spider-Man. Not one use of the word "we." But the movie had funny parts, and enjoyable parts.

Icy · 05-14-2007, 12:45 PM

Bleh, liked Venom a lot, hated the Jazz club dancing crap, totally unrelated and unnecessary imho.

Pyser · 05-14-2007, 12:47 PM

the problem with splitting the movie in 2 is money and actors.

everyone had a 3 picture contract. not 4. it was never an option on whats already probably the most expensive movie ever made.

05-05-2007, 12:32 PM	#4
TheOhioStateUniversity High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, GA via Columbus, OH	The love story/crying was a bit sappy and corny. Some parts were very funny though like when Spidey went Goth and thought he was a ladies man, when at best he appeared to be an asexual metrosexual and at worst he appeared to be extremely gay. __________________ Buckeyes Football/Basketball >>>> Your Favorite School

05-05-2007, 04:10 PM	#6
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I haven't seen this yet, but I saw Bryce Dallas Howard on one of the late night shows and they showed a clip of her falling from a building and the CGI looked more like a really good video game than a realistic movie scene. I hope there isn't too much of that. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

05-05-2007, 04:33 PM	#8
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05-05-2007, 06:06 PM	#9
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	They did try and put a little too much in there, which is why I said it's not as polished as 2, but I found it very enjoyable. Bruce Campbell was absolutely hysterical. Maybe it's because I never read the comics much and when I did, I was a little kid, but I don't get this hate for Kirsten Dunst as MJ. I think she's become a character that most people have grown to care about through this now-trilogy and I'd say Tobey brings to Parker an essentially human, Everyman quality. Which I think is the appeal of Spiderman as a superhero to begin with. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-05-2007, 08:53 PM	#13
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	The ending drove me a little nuts, but I'm hoping it set things up for there to be a fourth installment. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-05-2007, 12:15 PM	#2
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Meh. Too much attempted story, not enough development. Not horrid, but not up to the standard I was hoping for. C+

05-05-2007, 12:37 PM	#5
dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	The movie was reasonably entertaining and had some funny bits (Bruce Campbell as the French Maitre d' and the J. Jonah Jameson bit with the blood pressure meds in particular, and Topher Grace was great in his role) and some impressive action. But to me, there was way too much story trying to be crammed in, and it was trying to hit too many emotional levels too quickly leaving some awkward plot contrivances, and some of the action was just too over-the-top showy to really be effective. And while I love Kirsten Dunst, she still isn't the right actress for the role of Mary Jane Watson.

05-05-2007, 06:23 PM	#11
Doug5984 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisiana	I saw this the other night, was really looking forward to it and I left disappointed. There was way to much "comic relief" for me- seemed like a lot of one liners, that while funny took away from the movie itself. I was hoping for a lot more action, and it just wasn't there. I also thought the ending was horrible, very anti-climatic for me.

05-05-2007, 08:53 PM	#14
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I haven't gotten to see it yet, but it seems like from reviews that they crammed way too much shit into it. Like..... Spoiler The whole "New Green Goblin" storyline. That's probably enough conflict to do a whole movie alone, to job it out in a movie with Venom and Sandman already is too much At least it's no "Spiderman and Robin" from what I've read....with that many characters, it can easily happen.

05-05-2007, 09:40 PM	#15
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	too much Mary Jane, and crappy CGI, especially the first fight with Parker and Franco

05-05-2007, 10:01 PM	#16
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	I really think they should have fleshed out the first half more and had the movie end with Brock becoming Venom. That whole scene ending with Venom appearing would have been an ideal way to end the movie leading to the next one featuring Venom. But I have a feeling we will be waiting quite awhile for the next one with a whole new cast and producer at that time. I thought 2 was much better, mainly because of a much more cohesive storyline. Hard to compare it to the first Spiderman. The new one was fun and worth admission, but the story just wasn't as well thought out. __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

05-06-2007, 07:04 AM	#20
cody8200 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000	I thought the movie was decent and liked the action scenes (although I think there were too few). It just seemed like there was too much of the love story, not enough action. The story drudged on for over 2 hours never really completing a whole storyline. Nevertheless, it was worth the money. Next up, Shrek 3. Then, Pirates 3. B- overall

05-06-2007, 09:12 AM	#21
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	what was with Parker walking down the street trying to act like Shooter McGavin with the ladies? That and the scene with him dancing and playing the piano were terrible. It's like the writers had just watched Anchorman before writing the script, and tried to recreate the jazz flute scene or something.

05-06-2007, 10:00 AM	#22
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	ii refuse to see these comic book movies anymore. i didn't see this one, but let's face it - the good guys always win. the only thing i like about the 3rd XMen movie is that people actually died in that one. when Cyclops died during the first act, i was like "ok, they killed him, but it's early and they'll find a way to bring him back to life". that was cool. still, with SpiderMan i don't need to see the movie to know he'll get his ass kicked and be on the brink and then pull it off in the end. which is why any movie involving Super Man is a complete waste. with the cost of tickets these days i don't want to know the ending ahead of time. i took the wife to go see The Invisible, and while a part of me wanted to see Spider Man i said to myself "at least i won't know the ending of this movie". and i'm getting tired of CGI. it doesn't work. should only be used for making huge armies in sword and sandal movies or space scenes like in Star Wars. that's all. it's not realistic.

05-06-2007, 11:36 AM	#24
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	I thought this was by far the worst of the Spider-Man movies for many of the reasons already mentioned. Where the first 2 had intricate plots that boiled down to clear themes, this story was just a mess. Of course, that's probably because Sam Raimi and his brother had big hands in writing the script this time whereas the first 2 movies had big name screenwriters and even a Pulitzer Prize winning novelist (Michael Chabon) involved.

05-06-2007, 12:01 PM	#25
law90026 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	I thought it was quite bad honestly. Too many cheesy/cliched moments for my taste. I felt they were trying to make the show "dramatic", especially with what happens near the end, but it was 1) predicatable and 2) badly acted. I did like the Venom suit though, that was really well done.

05-06-2007, 01:50 PM	#26
SFL Cat College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South Florida	I enjoyed it. As others have said, a little too much cornball stuff and contrived sappiness here and there, but still a fun movie to watch.

05-07-2007, 08:58 AM	#27
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I've never been a big Spiderman fan, but my wife is, so I've seen them all. This one was okay. Not great, not bad. The part I enjoyed the most was when he was bad Spiderman and in the club. It was good for some laughs. I think Dunst can be hot, but she doesn't do it in these movies. I agree it was too weepy. Venom is the first Spiderman villian that I've liked. The Green Goblin was horrid. The guy with the machine thing in Spiderman 2 was crap. Venom was cool, although his motivation was pretty pathetic.

05-07-2007, 10:54 AM	#28
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	Decent flick. I liked the action scenes. I think Venom kicked ass, easily my favorite thing about the movie. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

05-07-2007, 11:23 AM	#29
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Nearly 150 Mill. I did NOT see that coming.

05-07-2007, 04:45 PM	#33
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	i would sooner pay to see Venom in a movie than i would Spiderman 3.

05-07-2007, 07:15 PM	#34
Richard Weed H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: May 2007	Kirsten Dunst is freakin anorexic in the movie. It drug on at parts. Overall, an average movie IMHO.

05-10-2007, 12:25 PM	#37
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	the onyl reason i didnt walk out of this movie was because i wanted to see how you kill sandman. turns out the filmmakers didnt know, either. i hated this film.

05-13-2007, 12:10 PM	#38
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I liked the characters. What they tried to do with the movie should be done in 2 movies. It has the "This will be the last one I do, so I am going cram all of the stuff I want into this movie." feel.

05-14-2007, 11:02 AM	#39
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I agree that the movie should have been split into two. Quality was kind of at my expectations, but I didn't have very high expectations to begin with. Really annoyed that they didn't play up the fact that the symbiote AND Eddie hated Parker/Spider-Man. Not one use of the word "we." But the movie had funny parts, and enjoyable parts.

05-14-2007, 12:45 PM	#40
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Bleh, liked Venom a lot, hated the Jazz club dancing crap, totally unrelated and unnecessary imho. __________________

05-14-2007, 12:47 PM	#41
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	the problem with splitting the movie in 2 is money and actors. everyone had a 3 picture contract. not 4. it was never an option on whats already probably the most expensive movie ever made.

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