2nd Time in 4 Years - Laid off.

CraigSca · 07-18-2007, 02:44 PM

Just got the call from corporate.

Anyone looking for a pre-sales engineer in the mid-atlantic region?

EagleFan · 07-18-2007, 02:48 PM

Sorry to hear that. I hope you find something soon.

This was a much more depressing thread than what it looked like from the main forum link for me as the word off was not viewable on that screen.

Fidatelo · 07-18-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

This was a much more depressing thread than what it looked like from the main forum link for me as the word off was not viewable on that screen.

It's almost equally depressing either way.

Fidatelo · 07-18-2007, 03:08 PM

Dola, sorry to hear about the bad news CraigSca, hope you land on your feet with something better than what you had.

gstelmack · 07-18-2007, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigSca

Anyone looking for a pre-sales engineer in the mid-atlantic region?

What type of engineer? If you can write code, probably. If you mean mechanical engineering or something else, then no I can't help (unless you can fix our HVAC, then they might bring you on board

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Oilers9911 · 07-18-2007, 03:28 PM

Sorry to hear that Craig. Though I can see the parody thread already.....

2nd time in 4 years - Laid.

MikeVic · 07-18-2007, 03:28 PM

Good luck in job hunting!

CraigSca · 07-18-2007, 03:32 PM

Pre-sales engineer - let's see - it's a little different than being an actual engineer. We provide technical help to the sales team - the sales guy does the selling while a pre-sales engineer speaks to the specific product and does the presentations, configurations, etc.

I've worked with WANs, disk mirroring, optical networks and most recently (at least until an hour and a half ago) encryption appliances for storage area networks. Ugh, my WOOF team is the Encryptors. Time for a name change, I suppose.

As far as code is concerned - I've written mostly in VB and Powerbasic, though I do know some C as well (but mostly use PB for ease of use).

I get along well with others and enjoy pizza and people-watching. (my last attempt at humor until a new job surfaces)

CraigSca · 07-18-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911

Sorry to hear that Craig. Though I can see the parody thread already.....

2nd time in 4 years - Laid.

Yeah. When I wrote the title I wasn't specifically thinking about the parody repercussions.

MalcPow · 07-18-2007, 03:34 PM

Sorry man, hang in there

CraigSca · 07-18-2007, 03:40 PM

Thanks guys. As evidenced by other threads that are of a greater importance than mine (hey, it's only a job, right?), just hearing the good thoughts from others means a lot.

Take care...

Yellow5 · 07-18-2007, 03:42 PM

Sorry to hear. I am facing my first layoff this year. We get 60-day warnings the middle of next month, then end the job in October. It sucks.

We are losing all of our IT people to a contractor (CSC), and our company is begging those IT folks to go work for the contractor. We "cost too much" now.

terpkristin · 07-18-2007, 03:46 PM

Sorry to hear about that, Craig. Based on your description, I may know some people in your field, I'll ask around. Good luck.

/tk

Oilers9911 · 07-18-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca

Yeah. When I wrote the title I wasn't specifically thinking about the parody repercussions.

Understandable, just trying to give you a chuckle.

Arles · 07-18-2007, 03:58 PM

I'll echo the good luck sentiments. If you don't mind the 100+ degree heat, there are some opportunities out west I could send your name to. Let me know.

Cringer · 07-18-2007, 04:38 PM

Sucks man, got my taste of it earlier this year. Although i knew i could fall back on trucking. Despite that i would say i didn't really move on and get out of my funk until a month or so ago. Good luck man.

Emiliano · 07-18-2007, 04:41 PM

Sorry to hear that, Craig. I'm sure you'll find something good soon.

JediKooter · 07-18-2007, 04:44 PM

That blows. I hope it all works out for you and hope something pops up soon for you. I know you specified the Mid-Atlantic region, but, is relocation an option for you?

I wish all the best for you man.

CraigSca · 07-18-2007, 04:51 PM

Relocation? Heck, providing for the family comes first. I'd commute and/or move all over.

I actually commuted to Boston from Delaware before - you do what you have to do, right?

Eaglesfan27 · 07-18-2007, 05:02 PM

Craig,

I hope you find something soon and that it ends up being an even better job.

Fidatelo · 07-18-2007, 05:03 PM

I got laid off last fall, but was lucky enough to be hitting the market at a time when my skillsets are needed. If the same thing had happened in 2002 I might have been in much rougher shape.

The thing is, even knowing there was demand, it was still a nerve wracking time. So I can definitely empathize with you on this one. Best of luck.

CraigSca · 07-18-2007, 05:05 PM

Perhaps a dynasty (and hopefully a short one) is in the making here

wade moore · 07-18-2007, 05:09 PM

Craig - I hope you find something.. I'll look at my companies website, they do a TON of intelligence work so there could be something there...

Flasch186 · 07-18-2007, 05:24 PM

sorry man...good luck.

If I can get that Training gig I could hire ya!!

JeeberD · 07-18-2007, 05:34 PM

Damn, that sucks. Sorry, Craig. Best of luck with the search!

MizzouRah · 07-18-2007, 05:41 PM

Best of luck Craig, I'm sure you'll find something soon!

hoosierdude · 07-18-2007, 05:52 PM

Best of luck and a quick turnaround for you. You have our thoughts and prayers.

Alan T · 07-18-2007, 06:03 PM

Sorry to hear the bad news Craig. Best of luck with finding something new!

Alan T · 07-18-2007, 06:12 PM

Craig, my company has a Sr. Consultant, Technical sales position open it appears in both Princeton, NJ and Herndon, VA. Both are a good bit aways though, and I know very little about the position. If you have interest, drop me a PM. I can get you the details and such at least.

flere-imsaho · 07-18-2007, 06:58 PM

Sucks to hear this, Craig. Best of luck finding something else.

JediKooter · 07-18-2007, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigSca

Relocation? Heck, providing for the family comes first. I'd commute and/or move all over.

I actually commuted to Boston from Delaware before - you do what you have to do, right?

No, I totaly understand. I'm up in San Jose and my family is still in San Diego, granted it is not a 'commute' as I only get to go back home about once a month.

I'm not trying to be lame here, but, here's a link to Apple's job search thingee (http://jobs.apple.com/index.ajs?BID=...archInterface), you can search it by state, though not all states are there.

They do have jobs in Virginia, Philly, and DC which seem to be the closet places to where you are in Delaware, but, I'm not sure if they are something you would be interested in applying for.

Good luck, I hope something comes along real soon.

M GO BLUE!!! · 07-18-2007, 07:04 PM

Hope this cheers you up a little...

The boss had to fire somebody, and he narrowed it down to one of two people, Debra or Jack. It was an impossible decision because they were both super workers. Rather than flip a coin, he decided he would fire the first one who used the water cooler the next morning.

Debra came in the next morning with a horrible hangover after partying all night. She went to the cooler to take an aspirin. The boss approached her and said: "Debra, I've never done this before but I have to lay you or Jack off."

"Could you just jack off?" she says. "I feel like sh*t."

CraigSca · 07-19-2007, 12:15 PM

From the irony department - I was just "re-hired" until the end of the week because the company made a committment to a customer and has no one available to perform the work.

So, for the next two days, I'm employed. Think I'll go buy a boat or something.

MikeVic · 07-19-2007, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

Hope this cheers you up a little...

The boss had to fire somebody, and he narrowed it down to one of two people, Debra or Jack. It was an impossible decision because they were both super workers. Rather than flip a coin, he decided he would fire the first one who used the water cooler the next morning.

Debra came in the next morning with a horrible hangover after partying all night. She went to the cooler to take an aspirin. The boss approached her and said: "Debra, I've never done this before but I have to lay you or Jack off."

"Could you just jack off?" she says. "I feel like sh*t."

heh.

Young Drachma · 07-19-2007, 01:01 PM

Sorry man. Hopefully something will come for you sooner than later.

M GO BLUE!!! · 07-19-2007, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigSca

From the irony department - I was just "re-hired" until the end of the week because the company made a committment to a customer and has no one available to perform the work.

So, for the next two days, I'm employed. Think I'll go buy a boat or something.

Call in sick.

CraigSca · 07-19-2007, 06:18 PM

You know, the first impulse is to say, "stick it" - but the extra money will definitely help and I got a really glowing email from HR about my "professionalism".

The letter will give me a tremendous amount of warm fuzzies when my house goes into foreclosure.

MacroGuru · 07-19-2007, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigSca

Pre-sales engineer - let's see - it's a little different than being an actual engineer. We provide technical help to the sales team - the sales guy does the selling while a pre-sales engineer speaks to the specific product and does the presentations, configurations, etc.

I've worked with WANs, disk mirroring, optical networks and most recently (at least until an hour and a half ago) encryption appliances for storage area networks. Ugh, my WOOF team is the Encryptors. Time for a name change, I suppose.

As far as code is concerned - I've written mostly in VB and Powerbasic, though I do know some C as well (but mostly use PB for ease of use).

I get along well with others and enjoy pizza and people-watching. (my last attempt at humor until a new job surfaces)

Being a former SE, I know how rough of a market it can be, I will hit my feelers out there. And if you haven't tried it yet, Linked In is a great way to make some contacts, it's in my signature...

Lorena · 07-19-2007, 08:19 PM

Sorry to hear that Craig, wish you luck.

CraigSca · 08-08-2007, 08:53 AM

Hey, here's a kicker. Just recieved notice from the company that I owe them $$$ because they overpaid my commission in Q1 and Q2.

Sure, let's see, I have tons of money laying around!

Uh...any lawyers in the house?

07-18-2007, 03:08 PM	#4
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	Dola, sorry to hear about the bad news CraigSca, hope you land on your feet with something better than what you had. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

07-18-2007, 03:28 PM	#6
Oilers9911 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	Sorry to hear that Craig. Though I can see the parody thread already..... 2nd time in 4 years - Laid. Last edited by Oilers9911 : 07-18-2007 at 03:28 PM.

07-18-2007, 03:32 PM	#8
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	Pre-sales engineer - let's see - it's a little different than being an actual engineer. We provide technical help to the sales team - the sales guy does the selling while a pre-sales engineer speaks to the specific product and does the presentations, configurations, etc. I've worked with WANs, disk mirroring, optical networks and most recently (at least until an hour and a half ago) encryption appliances for storage area networks. Ugh, my WOOF team is the Encryptors. Time for a name change, I suppose. As far as code is concerned - I've written mostly in VB and Powerbasic, though I do know some C as well (but mostly use PB for ease of use). I get along well with others and enjoy pizza and people-watching. (my last attempt at humor until a new job surfaces) __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

07-18-2007, 03:40 PM	#11
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	Thanks guys. As evidenced by other threads that are of a greater importance than mine (hey, it's only a job, right?), just hearing the good thoughts from others means a lot. Take care... __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

07-18-2007, 03:42 PM	#12
Yellow5 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tacoma, Wa.	Sorry to hear. I am facing my first layoff this year. We get 60-day warnings the middle of next month, then end the job in October. It sucks. We are losing all of our IT people to a contractor (CSC), and our company is begging those IT folks to go work for the contractor. We "cost too much" now. __________________ Xbox Gamertag: m0nk3y b0t

07-18-2007, 02:48 PM	#2
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Sorry to hear that. I hope you find something soon. This was a much more depressing thread than what it looked like from the main forum link for me as the word off was not viewable on that screen.

07-18-2007, 03:28 PM	#7
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Good luck in job hunting!

07-18-2007, 03:34 PM	#10
MalcPow College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Diego	Sorry man, hang in there

07-18-2007, 03:46 PM	#13
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	Sorry to hear about that, Craig. Based on your description, I may know some people in your field, I'll ask around. Good luck. /tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

07-18-2007, 03:58 PM	#15
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	I'll echo the good luck sentiments. If you don't mind the 100+ degree heat, there are some opportunities out west I could send your name to. Let me know. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

07-18-2007, 04:38 PM	#16
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	Sucks man, got my taste of it earlier this year. Although i knew i could fall back on trucking. Despite that i would say i didn't really move on and get out of my funk until a month or so ago. Good luck man. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

07-18-2007, 04:41 PM	#17
Emiliano College Prospect Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nuremberg, Germany	Sorry to hear that, Craig. I'm sure you'll find something good soon. __________________ Xbox Live&PSN: Emiliano81 GM of the Rome Gladiators in the WOOF

07-18-2007, 04:44 PM	#18
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	That blows. I hope it all works out for you and hope something pops up soon for you. I know you specified the Mid-Atlantic region, but, is relocation an option for you? I wish all the best for you man. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

07-18-2007, 04:51 PM	#19
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	Relocation? Heck, providing for the family comes first. I'd commute and/or move all over. I actually commuted to Boston from Delaware before - you do what you have to do, right? __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know? Last edited by CraigSca : 07-18-2007 at 04:53 PM.

07-18-2007, 05:02 PM	#20
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Craig, I hope you find something soon and that it ends up being an even better job. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

07-18-2007, 05:03 PM	#21
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	I got laid off last fall, but was lucky enough to be hitting the market at a time when my skillsets are needed. If the same thing had happened in 2002 I might have been in much rougher shape. The thing is, even knowing there was demand, it was still a nerve wracking time. So I can definitely empathize with you on this one. Best of luck. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

07-18-2007, 05:05 PM	#22
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	Perhaps a dynasty (and hopefully a short one) is in the making here __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

07-18-2007, 05:24 PM	#24
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	sorry man...good luck. If I can get that Training gig I could hire ya!! __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

07-18-2007, 05:34 PM	#25
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Damn, that sucks. Sorry, Craig. Best of luck with the search! __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

07-18-2007, 05:41 PM	#26
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Best of luck Craig, I'm sure you'll find something soon!

07-18-2007, 05:52 PM	#27
hoosierdude High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Great Lakes	Best of luck and a quick turnaround for you. You have our thoughts and prayers. __________________ TC Dale

07-18-2007, 06:03 PM	#28
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Sorry to hear the bad news Craig. Best of luck with finding something new!

07-18-2007, 06:12 PM	#29
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Craig, my company has a Sr. Consultant, Technical sales position open it appears in both Princeton, NJ and Herndon, VA. Both are a good bit aways though, and I know very little about the position. If you have interest, drop me a PM. I can get you the details and such at least.

07-18-2007, 06:58 PM	#30
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Sucks to hear this, Craig. Best of luck finding something else.

07-18-2007, 07:04 PM	#32
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	Hope this cheers you up a little... The boss had to fire somebody, and he narrowed it down to one of two people, Debra or Jack. It was an impossible decision because they were both super workers. Rather than flip a coin, he decided he would fire the first one who used the water cooler the next morning. Debra came in the next morning with a horrible hangover after partying all night. She went to the cooler to take an aspirin. The boss approached her and said: "Debra, I've never done this before but I have to lay you or Jack off." "Could you just jack off?" she says. "I feel like sh*t."

07-19-2007, 12:15 PM	#33
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	From the irony department - I was just "re-hired" until the end of the week because the company made a committment to a customer and has no one available to perform the work. So, for the next two days, I'm employed. Think I'll go buy a boat or something. __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

07-19-2007, 01:01 PM	#35
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Sorry man. Hopefully something will come for you sooner than later.

07-19-2007, 06:18 PM	#37
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	You know, the first impulse is to say, "stick it" - but the extra money will definitely help and I got a really glowing email from HR about my "professionalism". The letter will give me a tremendous amount of warm fuzzies when my house goes into foreclosure. __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

07-19-2007, 08:19 PM	#39
Lorena Unregistered Join Date: May 2004	Sorry to hear that Craig, wish you luck.

08-08-2007, 08:53 AM	#40
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	Hey, here's a kicker. Just recieved notice from the company that I owe them $$$ because they overpaid my commission in Q1 and Q2. Sure, let's see, I have tons of money laying around! Uh...any lawyers in the house? __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

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