Jets cheat too

Vinatieri for Prez · 09-17-2007, 09:56 PM

From profootballtalk.com. Talk about classless. I think the last paragraph is probably right. I think a 2nd rounder penalty is about right.

BILLICK SAYS JETS USED ILLEGAL PLOY by Michael David Smith

Ravens coach Brian Billick is accusing the Jets of using an illegal ploy to draw false start penalties on the Ravens' offensive linemen during Sunday's game.

According to Billick, the Jets' defense shouted out signals to throw off the Baltimore offense, and the result was three illegal procedure penalties against the Ravens.

"They did an outstanding job. I credit the New York Jets. Their defensive line and linebackers did a very, very effective job of illegally simulating the snap count," Billick said. "They did it the whole game long. It needs to be caught."

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Billick's complaint against the Jets could represent the coaching fraternity's first piece of retribution against Jets coach Eric Mangini for the role the Jets played in turning in the Patriots for illegally taping the Jets' defensive signals. Billick may want to spread the word that in his view, Mangini isn't exactly a model coaching citizen, either.

Mantle2600 · 09-17-2007, 10:05 PM

He's just mad cause Ray Lewis isnt allowed to stab people at the line of scrimmage anymore.

EagleFan · 09-17-2007, 10:58 PM

lol.....

Got bitter?

Vinatieri for Prez · 09-17-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

lol.....

Got bitter?

Smiley.

heybrad · 09-17-2007, 11:16 PM

I had never even heard of this until I saw it called against USC this past weekend.

Young Drachma · 09-17-2007, 11:28 PM

Logan · 09-18-2007, 07:26 AM

I think the defense should be able to do this. The quarterback is allowed to use signals to draw the defense offside; make sure the OL learns the sound of their QBs voice.

Chubby · 09-18-2007, 08:10 AM

I love the pats fans making threads crying about the Jets.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 09-18-2007, 08:13 AM

I think I just realized why the Chiefs are 0-2. We obviously don't cheat as well as the other teams.

Honolulu_Blue · 09-18-2007, 08:15 AM

Ugh. So, we're going to get a "X team cheated!" claim every week? This is going to be fun.

Maple Leafs · 09-18-2007, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Ugh. So, we're going to get a "X team cheated!" claim every week? This is going to be fun.

It's only because there are so many X team haters out there.

molson · 09-18-2007, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

I love the pats fans making threads crying about the Jets.

As long as the sports media is going to be speculating 24/7 about whether this "taints" the Patriots' success, I don't think it's unreasonable to point out how retarded that is.

But this really is a more tongue-in-cheek thread, about the old, grumpy coaches annoyed with the young punk coach.

Pumpy Tudors · 09-18-2007, 08:29 AM

This shit was going on in the XFL, too. I was a big Memphis Maniax fan, and people were obviously stealing signals. Rashaam Salaam couldn't do much out there on the field. I was shocked that the Maniax managed a 5-5 record, as I'm sure that some serious cheating was going on when they played San Francisco and Las Vegas, in particular.

This reminds me about a letter that I had planned to write five years ago. I'd better get started on that.

wade moore · 09-18-2007, 08:30 AM

Does anyone else think this is one of the stupidest "on the field" rules out there?

Critch · 09-18-2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I think I just realized why the Chiefs are 0-2. We obviously don't cheat as well as the other teams.

The Jets are 0-2 too, so maybe the Chiefs just cheat incompetently, like the Jets do?

Honolulu_Blue · 09-18-2007, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

It's only because there are so many X team haters out there.

You raise a fair point.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 09-18-2007, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Critch

The Jets are 0-2 too, so maybe the Chiefs just cheat incompetently, like the Jets do?

Oh no! Don't you lump the Chiefs in with the Jets! We lost both games fair and square! The Jets obviously cheated to lose.

Subby · 09-18-2007, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I think I just realized why the Chiefs are 0-2. We obviously don't cheat as well as the other teams.

Yeah that's what it is.

Chubby · 09-18-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

As long as the sports media is going to be speculating 24/7 about whether this "taints" the Patriots' success, I don't think it's unreasonable to point out how retarded that is.

But this really is a more tongue-in-cheek thread, about the old, grumpy coaches annoyed with the young punk coach.

I just think it's funny that Mangini gets labeled a crybaby and now other coaches are going to start crying about him.

TroyF · 09-18-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Does anyone else think this is one of the stupidest "on the field" rules out there?

I think it's a good rule. False starts are one of the most damaging penalties for an offense. You get a loud stadium and a bunch of defensive guys yapping at the line, it can create chaos. If this were done frequently, it could cause a ton of problems for offenses and I'm not real thrilled as a fan about watching 12 false starts a game.

If the Jets did it, it should have been called.

sachmo71 · 09-18-2007, 09:44 AM

this whole thing is so silly

wade moore · 09-18-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

I think it's a good rule. False starts are one of the most damaging penalties for an offense. You get a loud stadium and a bunch of defensive guys yapping at the line, it can create chaos. If this were done frequently, it could cause a ton of problems for offenses and I'm not real thrilled as a fan about watching 12 false starts a game.

If the Jets did it, it should have been called.

This just screams of "boohoo, he tricked me"... I don't get it personally. You should know your QB's voice and what calls he should be making. If you don't, watch the damned ball.

MIJB#19 · 09-18-2007, 11:29 AM

All of a sudden, the Jets 0-2 start makes sense. The front seven players have been practising so much on their Tom Brady and Kyle Boller imitations, they simply forgot how to play defense.

Kodos · 09-18-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MIJB#19

All of a sudden, the Jets 0-2 start makes sense. The front seven players have been practising so much on their Tom Brady and Kyle Boller imitations, they simply forgot how to play defense.

Worse, they've knocked up a bunch of women recently.

MikeVic · 09-18-2007, 11:37 AM

I'd like to see a Tom Brady/Travis Henry team one day.

Butter · 09-18-2007, 11:38 AM

If there are 2 more dickish head coaches than Brian Billick and Bill Belichick in the NFL today, I'd like to see them. Somehow, I don't think either one will be winning a sympathy vote at any point.

Subby · 09-18-2007, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

If there are 2 more dickish head coaches than Brian Billick and Bill Belichick in the NFL today, I'd like to see them.

Lorena · 09-18-2007, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

If this were done frequently, it could cause a ton of problems for offenses and I'm not real thrilled as a fan about watching 12 false starts a game.

Yup, just ask Raider fan.

Pumpy Tudors · 09-18-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Yup, just ask Raider fan.

HAHAHAHAHA!

SunDevil · 09-18-2007, 02:52 PM

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Desnudo · 09-18-2007, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

If there are 2 more dickish head coaches than Brian Billick and Bill Belichick in the NFL today, I'd like to see them. Somehow, I don't think either one will be winning a sympathy vote at any point.

ba dump bum

st.cronin · 09-18-2007, 08:49 PM

Come on, the vast majority of NFL head coaches are complete dicks.

SirFozzie · 09-18-2007, 08:55 PM

You have to be dicks in the job I think. 70 Hour Work Weeks, etcetera

Vinatieri for Prez · 09-19-2007, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

ba dump bum

El Dicko Supremo.

Raiders Army · 09-19-2007, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Yup, just ask Raider fan.

Hey!

Raiders Army · 09-19-2007, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

HAHAHAHAHA!

Hey! Hey!

spleen1015 · 09-19-2007, 07:56 AM

Thank goodness the teams I root for are coached by Joe Gibbs and Tony Dungy.

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09-18-2007, 08:29 AM	#13
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09-17-2007, 10:58 PM	#3
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	lol..... Got bitter?

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heybrad Norm!!! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Manassas, VA	I had never even heard of this until I saw it called against USC this past weekend.

09-18-2007, 07:26 AM	#7
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	I think the defense should be able to do this. The quarterback is allowed to use signals to draw the defense offside; make sure the OL learns the sound of their QBs voice.

09-18-2007, 08:10 AM	#8
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	I love the pats fans making threads crying about the Jets.

09-18-2007, 08:13 AM	#9
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	I think I just realized why the Chiefs are 0-2. We obviously don't cheat as well as the other teams.

09-18-2007, 09:44 AM	#21
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	this whole thing is so silly

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