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Old 02-20-2008, 06:53 PM   #1301
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Am I the only who thinks there's a lot of people not putting a lot of thought into this lynch? It feels like a lot of "whelp a landslide, guess I vote for the winner."
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:54 PM   #1302
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I was SUPPOSED to be at the hockey game with my girlfreind tonight and I'll be damned if that didn't just go to shit on me in a hurry.


So I'm here too. the votes are too one way, I hate runaway votes.
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:55 PM   #1303
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Dodgerchick: posterchild for bipolar medication

Ehh... what are you trying to say?
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:55 PM   #1304
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I was SUPPOSED to be at the hockey game with my girlfreind tonight and I'll be damned if that didn't just go to shit on me in a hurry.


So I'm here too. the votes are too one way, I hate runaway votes.



aren't you married?
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:04 PM   #1305
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aren't you married?


Umm.....yes?
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:14 PM   #1306
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Ehh... what are you trying to say?

That you are adorable as always darlin'!
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:41 PM   #1307
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That you are adorable as always darlin'!

Aha

It's okay RendeR, you're not the first to call me a crazy psycho bitch.
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:43 PM   #1308
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is the thread title wrong?

It says Day 3 Thursday 9 PM wouldn't that be tomorrow?
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:59 PM   #1309
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is the thread title wrong?

It says Day 3 Thursday 9 PM wouldn't that be tomorrow?

Nice catch. I'll fix it after deadline. Which is any second now.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:15 PM   #1310
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Final vote count:

nfg22 - 14 - Chief Rum (1097), saldana (1101), oliegirl (1156), jeheinz72 (1168), MikeVic (1173), Pumpy Tudors (1175), Barkeep49 (1184), bsak16 (1226), mauboy1 (1228), Mr. Wednesday (1255), SnDvls (1261), RendeR (1264), ntndeacon (1291), Dodgerchick (1294)

Chief Rum - 2 - st.cronin (1263), nfg22 (1267)

Dodgerchick - 1 - The Jackal (1113)

st.cronin - 1 - claphamsa (1130)


"Mr. Felix! Mr. Felix!", "Sir, can I ask..", "Over here!"

The media swarmed Mr. Felix as he entered the hotel lobby. He looked horrible. Every newspaper in Fortune had a headline like DIVINATION NATION! RE-INFESTED!!! His publicity stops for his book were cancelling left and right, he had parents threatening lawsuits and pulling their kids (if they could get to the school that is, however, the wolves seem to have effectively sealed off the building magically). Worst of all, he had no idea what was going on at all. Mr. Edward was not answering the phone.

Meanwhile at the school, there is a clear consensus that nfg22 has revealed himself via some duplicitous comments. There is no doubt as he is led to the rope that this time the students have finally found their wolf.

Except for him not changing, that is. But that was after he was already dead.

NFG22, A STUDENT, HAS BEEN LYNCHED. NIGHT 3 IS UNDERWAY, ORDERS ARE DUE BY 1AM EST THURSDAY.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:19 PM   #1311
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Awww that sucks.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:20 PM   #1312
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I'll be scanning Chief Rum unless otherwise told in the next hour or so.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:24 PM   #1313
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I'm scanning Chief as well Mike.

Sorry nfg
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:41 PM   #1314
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I'm scanning Chief Rum, too.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:42 PM   #1315
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Dola

I haven't learned a damn thing from my scans except two were right and one was wrong. That only tells me that I'm neither the teacher's pet nor the class clown. I'll scan Chief Rum, but I don't see myself getting any real information out of it.

Sorry, nfg.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:47 PM   #1316
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I don't really know why, but I'm thinking st.cronin, Chief Rum, and clap are three candidates in my eyes. Or they could all be villagers. I really don't know.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:54 PM   #1317
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Somehow I saw this result coming, but we really didn't have a lot of other options. As people used to tell me, its easier to take the bad kill to get information and clear confusion out of the way than it is to really shoot blindly at the rest of the field.

Sorry man, better luck next game!


Ok, so I scanned DC last night whose on my list for tonight? If I don't hear from anyone I'll put in orders to scan someone with very few scans done at this point. Seems like CR has plenty of people scanning him already.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:56 PM   #1318
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I don't really know why, but I'm thinking st.cronin, Chief Rum, and clap are three candidates in my eyes. Or they could all be villagers. I really don't know.


Can you elaborate a bit for me? What is the beef on Cronin and Clap? (Not that I EVER need a real good reason to vote for Cronin)
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:56 PM   #1319
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*waves at passacaglia's ghost*
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:59 PM   #1320
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*waves at Lathum's ghost too*
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:30 PM   #1321
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Damnit!!!! Sorry NFG

Since there are no scanning groups organized for tonight, I'm going to live on the edge and pick someone myself...submitting my scan order shortly and then going to veg out, I just spent the last 5 hours making an American Revoluntionary War costume for my son for a school project...I'm beat!
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:55 PM   #1322
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Can you elaborate a bit for me? What is the beef on Cronin and Clap? (Not that I EVER need a real good reason to vote for Cronin)

I hope someone has updated stats tomorrow, since I don't really know anymore. For clap, it's really only the weak argument that I scanned him as wolf. But I could be a low accuracy guy, so I don't know. I know I had other suspicions about him, but I'm pretty sure they were tied to NFG... who is now revealed to be a villager. And for cronin, I really don't have anything.

Maybe it's the people I'm not thinking of that are the wolves. Playing villagers against each other.
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:58 PM   #1323
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Day 1 votes:

No Lynch 9 -- Greyroofoo(287), The Jackal(289), Lathum(321), Nfg22(351), SnDvls(356), MikeVic(403), Chief Rum(407), oliegirl(430), saldana(437)

Nfg22 3 -- Barkeep49(239), ntndeacon(334), Passacaglia(383)

jeheinz72 2 -- Dodgerchick(202), Pumpy Tudors(207)

The Jackal 1 -- claphamsa(91)

RendeR 1 -- st.cronin(210)

Lathum 1 -- RendeR(339)

ntndeacon 1 -- Bsak16(409)

claphamsa 1 -- Mr. Wednesday(440)

Not voted: mauboy1, jeheinz72


Day 2 votes:

Lathum - 8 - nfg22 (787), Barkeep49 (791), DodgerChick (800), Passacaglia (880), st.cronin (882), RendeR (887), mauboy1 (926), Mr. Wednesday (985)

nfg22 - 7 - Pumpy Tudors(598), Bsak16(628), MikeVic (757), claphamsa (770), Lathum (830), oliegirl (865), saldana (866)

No Lynch - 2 - The Jackal (736), SnDvls (762)

Passacaglia - 1 - ntndeacon(738)

Dodgerchick - 1 - jeheinz72 (764)

Barkeep49 - 1 - Chief Rum (986)


Day 3 votes:

nfg22 - 14 - Chief Rum (1097), saldana (1101), oliegirl (1156), jeheinz72 (1168), MikeVic (1173), Pumpy Tudors (1175), Barkeep49 (1184), bsak16 (1226), mauboy1 (1228), Mr. Wednesday (1255), SnDvls (1261), RendeR (1264), ntndeacon (1291), Dodgerchick (1294)

Chief Rum - 2 - st.cronin (1263), nfg22 (1267)

Dodgerchick - 1 - The Jackal (1113)

st.cronin - 1 - claphamsa (1130)
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:59 PM   #1324
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I'm guessing I'm dead tonight.
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:59 PM   #1325
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Looking at the voting record, 2 things stand out: The Jackal and Sndvls both voted for no lynch, can someone remind me why?
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:01 PM   #1326
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Damn the no edit rules, they both voted no lynch for day 1 and day 2.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:06 PM   #1327
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I voted again the second day because I did not feel strongly about Lathum being a wolf (and seems I was right), and I still saw the merit of a no lynch being that we all have at least some seeing ability. The more scans, the better, because even though a lot of them are inaccurate, the history of it should help us in the endgame.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:06 PM   #1328
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For day 2, they were arguing that there was no material difference from day 1. I don't think that makes them a wolf, only misguided. (Wolves want villager lynches because it gets them to the victory condition much more quickly.)
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:07 PM   #1329
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Dola, no material difference in terms of our status on information.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:08 PM   #1330
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FYI - I'm going to be on vacation this weekend, probably a lack of computer access, but I'll wire up the website to my phone so I can keep up with the talking and be a legitimate part of the effort.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:09 PM   #1331
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Dola, no material difference in terms of our status on information.

Yeah, I think we've mostly agreed N0 isn't going to help us much, though when we get to the end it might be interesting to see who the people that are still alive said they got scans for on N0.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:10 PM   #1332
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dola

and N1 with our no lynch was just the beginning of our valuable scan history
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:11 PM   #1333
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As for who I suspect at this point - I have a few ideas, but I'd like to see what happens tonight. DC isn't cleared yet in my mind, but I'm starting to think she probably isn't a wolf.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:40 PM   #1334
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Should I scan clap again instead of CR?
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Old 02-20-2008, 11:58 PM   #1335
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Two more minutes to an intense moment for me..
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Old 02-21-2008, 12:59 AM   #1336
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Another night. Another bout of tossing and turning. After what seems like weeks you fall into a fitful sleep. Until the scream. Always the scream in the distance. You run out with the others from your dorms into the meeting area.
There is another scream. You look up at the meeting room chandelier. And saldana hanging from it, his neck slashed nearly in two, the end of the chandelier arm serving as a meat hook. Things are not looking good.

SALDANA, A STUDENT, HAS BEEN KILLED. DAY 4 IS UNDERWAY. DEADLINE IS 9PM EST THURSDAY.

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Old 02-21-2008, 01:06 AM   #1337
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Well, pretty surprised how that went. I fully expected to be lynched. I'm sorry to see nfg22 lynched, but I had to vote for him on self-preservation. I had no idea it would roll up on him like that. I actually wish more people had voted for me and made it interesting. We learn nothing about conventional wolf evidence (voting history) in runaways, and my gut said nfg was a student from the first night we were gabbing back and forth about stats.

I again encourage people to scan me more, if they need to, but hopefully after that, be done with it. Either you're satisfied I'm a strudent or you lynch me for the data points. I would rather that than to continue to be strung along.

I scanned Render, as I wasn't sure he had a lot of post-N0 scans, and he came up a student.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:19 AM   #1338
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I worry that we may put a little too much into the whole scanning thing at the expense of conventional WW play. We can absolutely continue to let it inform us, but I think it's time to move beyond lynching someone just because they've been scanned a lot.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:20 AM   #1339
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Dola, and I have DodgerChick as a student.
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:04 AM   #1340
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I scanned st. cronin. He came up as a student.
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:51 AM   #1341
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I scanned Chief Rum and came up student.
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:14 AM   #1342
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i died and came up a student.

shit.
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:26 AM   #1343
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I scanned heinze as a student!
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:35 AM   #1344
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i died and came up a student.

shit.


It's not all bad news Saldana! You died night 3, which qualifies you for posting in the griping thread about being killed early!
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:47 AM   #1345
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It's not all bad news Saldana! You died night 3, which qualifies you for posting in the griping thread about being killed early!

Party in the losers lounge -- uh, I mean griping thread!
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:07 AM   #1346
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I worry that we may put a little too much into the whole scanning thing at the expense of conventional WW play. We can absolutely continue to let it inform us, but I think it's time to move beyond lynching someone just because they've been scanned a lot.

That is the point I have been trying to make from the beginning. It is too easy for the wolves to manipulate these scans.
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:19 AM   #1347
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So Mr. W who then, using more traditional WW methods, do you see as the biggest threat today?
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:27 AM   #1348
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That is the point I have been trying to make from the beginning. It is too easy for the wolves to manipulate these scans.
I frankly disagree with your point about wolf manipulation since I think the value of the scans comes from finding out individuals who are accurate, or not. If the wolves want to lie it would probably come down the road after they've built up some credibility.

I am sympathetic to the idea that we need to be using more traditional WW methods of finding the wolves. I'd ask the same question of you that I asked of Mr. W: who do you see as a threat today?

That said I'd also ask that you reveal your scan anyway. I think the collective sharing of info now is going to really benefit the villagers during the end game.
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:34 AM   #1349
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I worry that we may put a little too much into the whole scanning thing at the expense of conventional WW play. We can absolutely continue to let it inform us, but I think it's time to move beyond lynching someone just because they've been scanned a lot.

Yes, I'm starting to come around to this line of thinking. We don't know who is telling the truth and therefore can't put too much stock into any of these scans, not even our own
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:36 AM   #1350
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I gotta agree with W here... The scans will help eventually.... but not now.

vote cronin!

Lets get this party started!
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