Some WW History questions...

spleen1015 · 10-04-2006, 03:54 PM

How many games have the wolves won?
How many games have the villagers won?
What is the quickest wolf win?
What is the quickest villager win?

I am hoping there is someone who have this information tracked.

hoopsguy · 10-04-2006, 04:36 PM

I don't know of anyone who has this all tracked currently, but I think there has been some interest in doing this.

Wolves have thrown a perfect game before - SackAttack and I did this in the Star Wars game and I am pretty sure it has happened in others as well.

The villagers have won in two days - was one of the earlier games with a vampire theme.

As a general observation, the more complex games seem to have favored the villagers and the simpler games have favored the wolves. I believe the games with more roles have been more challenging to balance for the moderators, although others may have differing opinions on this.

Grammaticus · 10-04-2006, 08:08 PM

Don't know about win/loss stats for games. That information has not been kept up to date on the firs few posts in games, so it would take some time to compile.

I have a list of who has played in various games and who has GM'd them, but that is it. Just in case you are wondering:

Blade has played in the most at 27
Peregrine has hosted the most at 6

Barkeep49 · 10-04-2006, 08:21 PM

What's the full list of hosting? I had always thought Neon Chaos had hosted the most.

hoopsguy · 10-04-2006, 08:44 PM

Yikes - 27 games!!!

Blade6119 · 10-04-2006, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Yikes - 27 games!!!

Now i can really claim to be the most experienced player!! HAHAHA, BOW DOWN BEFORE ME!!!

Count me as very interested in seeing the whole list gramat has for players.

Fouts · 10-04-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Now i can really claim to be the most experienced player!! HAHAHA, BOW DOWN BEFORE ME!!!

Count me as very interested in seeing the whole list gramat has for players.

27 games, 27 early deaths?

Barkeep49 · 10-04-2006, 10:06 PM

Fouts: 26 early games. He had to earn his reputation the first time

Grammaticus · 10-04-2006, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

What's the full list of hosting? I had always thought Neon Chaos had hosted the most.

Hosting is something like this:

Perigrine – 6
Neon Chaos – 5
Barkeep – 5
Sir Fozzie – 2
Air Hog – 2
Saldana – 2
Hoopsguy – 2
St.cronin – 2
All other GMs – 1

There have been 36 games. Two have duplicated Roman numerals and the Newbie Game is the 36th.

A total of 18 people have GM'd.

After Blade on the players side,

Kingfc – 25
Scmidty – 25
SnDvls – 20
5 are tied at – 17

A total of 103 people have played a game.

Grammaticus · 10-04-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Yikes - 27 games!!!

You have played in 15, the first being WW VII - Return to XCom in July of 2005.

hoopsguy · 10-04-2006, 10:43 PM

Shoot, with that few games I should have been eligible for the newcomer game

Lathum · 10-04-2006, 10:48 PM

ok, i gotta ask. how many for me?

Grammaticus · 10-04-2006, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Shoot, with that few games I should have been eligible for the newcomer game

Out of 103 players, based on number of games you are tied for 11th. Very much a vet

Actually, I think the newbie games need a mix of vets and new players to get the most out of the game. I mean the fastest way to learn is to watch those who know a few tricks.

Grammaticus · 10-04-2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

ok, i gotta ask. how many for me?

You are one of the 5 with 17 games and you have the honor, along with 10 other players of playing in the first game, WW I - The Game, back in June of 2005.

Barkeep49 · 10-04-2006, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Out of 103 players, based on number of games you are tied for 11th. Very much a vet

Actually, I think the newbie games need a mix of vets and new players to get the most out of the game. I mean the fastest way to learn is to watch those who know a few tricks.

I'm not so sure this is true, frankly. I think having a few people who have played in a game or two is beneficial, but I think having the vets in there seems counter to an envoirnment that encourages risk taking. But I could be way off base and at the end of the game there could be some feedback from the players about what they thought having some rather experienced players in the game.

Grammaticus · 10-04-2006, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I'm not so sure this is true, frankly. I think having a few people who have played in a game or two is beneficial, but I think having the vets in there seems counter to an envoirnment that encourages risk taking. But I could be way off base and at the end of the game there could be some feedback from the players about what they thought having some rather experienced players in the game.

I agree, it probably does impact risk taking. But, I think you get to see some players execute basic tactics and explain a lot of little things. So, I think you learn a lot faster.

The mafia boards have the newbie games setup requiring a certain number of players with a set number of games as vets to show the new guys the ropes. But they also appear to be pretty picky about etiquette and appear to get annoyed when newbies goof up.

Personally I enjoyed playing with some experienced players and learning versus reading through older games. But I can see the appeal either way.

Raven Hawk · 10-05-2006, 11:56 PM

Although I've never played, I'd be interested in some historical stats:

Which side won and which round, who was on the winner's side, etc . . .

Swaggs · 10-06-2006, 12:42 AM

I'd be interested to hear how many I have played in. I would guess around 8-10...

saldana · 10-06-2006, 02:37 AM

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saldana · 10-06-2006, 02:46 AM

dola, the one question i have Gram, is when the F#&* did skydog play a WW game!!!!!!!111!!1!!11

Poli · 10-06-2006, 03:10 AM

Skydog??

Poli · 10-06-2006, 03:11 AM

I see at least 10 games I should have been involved in. Friggin Navy.

Blade6119 · 10-06-2006, 03:12 AM

he hasnt, he is wrongly listed. The game in question did not have skydog as a player...the host of said game killed skydog off to start the game(purely a flavor move, as he killed himself as well).

Skydog never played WW, and didnt sign up for that game. The mod chose him and his death as a way to announce their was evil among us. No, he never played

Blade6119 · 10-06-2006, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I see at least 10 games I should have been involved in. Friggin Navy.

If you had you would be tied with me for the lead...thats just not acceptable. Its mine, my title, my preccciousss

Poli · 10-06-2006, 03:22 AM

Thank goodness. All is right in the world.

Abe Sargent · 10-06-2006, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119

he hasnt, he is wrongly listed. The game in question did not have skydog as a player...the host of said game killed skydog off to start the game(purely a flavor move, as he killed himself as well).

Skydog never played WW, and didnt sign up for that game. The mod chose him and his death as a way to announce their was evil among us. No, he never played

Yup, that was me!

Thomkal · 10-06-2006, 06:38 AM

Love the Chart Saldana. And of course thanks to Gram for compiling the list I should be marked down for Animal Farm too since I came in as a replacement. Giving me a grand total of 3 games, woohoo.

Grammaticus · 10-06-2006, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119

he hasnt, he is wrongly listed. The game in question did not have skydog as a player...the host of said game killed skydog off to start the game(purely a flavor move, as he killed himself as well).

Skydog never played WW, and didnt sign up for that game. The mod chose him and his death as a way to announce their was evil among us. No, he never played

I thought this was the case. I believe it was Anxiety's game and both Anxiety and Skydog were listed in the players roster on the first post. Both Anxiety and Skydog were killed on night zero. Since I did not read through the thread, I listed the game for Skydog and not Anxiety (since he was the GM and obviously not a player). Since it was the only game he listed, I didn't have too much concern listing him. Feel free to delete him, now that we have clarification.

Alan T · 10-06-2006, 12:34 PM

Hehe cool chart, I actually have played in 12 games since I joined the Spawn II game on the second day i think or so. Alot of those games I actually totally forgot about

Swaggs · 10-06-2006, 04:02 PM

Thanks Gramm--very cool.

I have been in 12 games. I played in 5 of the first 9 and then didn't play again until Game #22.

SnDvls · 10-07-2006, 11:19 AM

wow I played in 20 games!!

great list thanks

SnDvls · 11-02-2006, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

big thanks to grammaticus for taking the time to compile this...hope you dont mind that i made a few cosmetic changes to make it easier to post.

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bump

SnDvls · 02-21-2008, 07:56 PM

has anyone updated this or do we need some work on it?

Barkeep49 · 02-21-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

has anyone updated this or do we need some work on it?

Work. I've incorporated some of the work you've done into the FOFC Wiki. I'd encourage any work on that stuff be taken over to the Wiki so that it could be worked on by multiple people if the mood so struck them.

SnDvls · 02-21-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Work. I've incorporated some of the work you've done into the FOFC Wiki. I'd encourage any work on that stuff be taken over to the Wiki so that it could be worked on by multiple people if the mood so struck them.

I didn't do the original, but where on the wiki can it be found

SnDvls · 02-21-2008, 10:03 PM

dola - so I can help update it & keep it up to date/improve it.

Neon_Chaos · 02-22-2008, 06:14 AM

Never knew I hosted the most games.

I think I've hosted more than I've played, actually. Heh.

Can't wait to host another one.... only several more people in front of me.

saldana · 02-22-2008, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Work. I've incorporated some of the work you've done into the FOFC Wiki. I'd encourage any work on that stuff be taken over to the Wiki so that it could be worked on by multiple people if the mood so struck them.

gramatticus compiled all the data, and i formatted the spreadsheet/prepared the webpage...i still have the spreadsheet if anyone is interested in using it to update the Wiki Page.

Neon_Chaos · 02-22-2008, 07:17 AM

Taken from the Wiki

http://www.rwbl.net/fofcwiki/index.p...Werewolf_Games

Peregrine has hosted 8 games.
I have hosted 6 games.

Peregrine and myself were pretty much the de-facto hosts in the early days (months?

) of Werewolf. Out of the first 17 games, Peregrine hosted 6, and I hosted 5.

I dropped off for a couple of years before hosting my recent game, Beneath The Iron Cross.

Alan T · 02-22-2008, 07:22 AM

My upcoming game will be my 6th hosted game as well, but I'm guessing Barkeep or a couple others are probably up to 7th or 8th as well now.

Barkeep49 · 02-22-2008, 07:36 AM

I've hosted 9 Large games and 2 or 3 small ones.

SnDvls · 02-22-2008, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

gramatticus compiled all the data, and i formatted the spreadsheet/prepared the webpage...i still have the spreadsheet if anyone is interested in using it to update the Wiki Page.

I have this, but it's about 20 or so games short of complete, but this is what needs to go up on the Wiki page yes

10-05-2006, 11:56 PM	#17
Raven Hawk College Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Thunderdome	Although I've never played, I'd be interested in some historical stats: Which side won and which round, who was on the winner's side, etc . . . __________________ Owner of The Shreveport Pride in The CFL

10-06-2006, 12:42 AM	#18
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'd be interested to hear how many I have played in. I would guess around 8-10... __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-06-2006, 03:10 AM	#21
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Skydog?? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-06-2006, 03:12 AM	#23
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	he hasnt, he is wrongly listed. The game in question did not have skydog as a player...the host of said game killed skydog off to start the game(purely a flavor move, as he killed himself as well). Skydog never played WW, and didnt sign up for that game. The mod chose him and his death as a way to announce their was evil among us. No, he never played __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

10-06-2006, 03:22 AM	#25
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Thank goodness. All is right in the world. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-04-2006, 04:36 PM	#2
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I don't know of anyone who has this all tracked currently, but I think there has been some interest in doing this. Wolves have thrown a perfect game before - SackAttack and I did this in the Star Wars game and I am pretty sure it has happened in others as well. The villagers have won in two days - was one of the earlier games with a vampire theme. As a general observation, the more complex games seem to have favored the villagers and the simpler games have favored the wolves. I believe the games with more roles have been more challenging to balance for the moderators, although others may have differing opinions on this.

10-04-2006, 08:08 PM	#3
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Don't know about win/loss stats for games. That information has not been kept up to date on the firs few posts in games, so it would take some time to compile. I have a list of who has played in various games and who has GM'd them, but that is it. Just in case you are wondering: Blade has played in the most at 27 Peregrine has hosted the most at 6

10-04-2006, 08:21 PM	#4
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	What's the full list of hosting? I had always thought Neon Chaos had hosted the most.

10-04-2006, 08:44 PM	#5
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Yikes - 27 games!!!

10-04-2006, 10:06 PM	#8
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Fouts: 26 early games. He had to earn his reputation the first time

10-04-2006, 10:43 PM	#11
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Shoot, with that few games I should have been eligible for the newcomer game

10-04-2006, 10:48 PM	#12
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	ok, i gotta ask. how many for me?

10-06-2006, 02:37 AM	#19
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	big thanks to grammaticus for taking the time to compile this...hope you dont mind that i made a few cosmetic changes to make it easier to post. The Official FOFC Leaderboard, brought to you by Grammaticus any ideas on improving the layout or presentation, let me know, i host this on my own site, so can change anything at any time

10-06-2006, 02:46 AM	#20
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	dola, the one question i have Gram, is when the F#&* did skydog play a WW game!!!!!!!111!!1!!11

10-06-2006, 03:11 AM	#22
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I see at least 10 games I should have been involved in. Friggin Navy. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-06-2006, 06:38 AM	#27
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Love the Chart Saldana. And of course thanks to Gram for compiling the list I should be marked down for Animal Farm too since I came in as a replacement. Giving me a grand total of 3 games, woohoo. Last edited by Thomkal : 10-06-2006 at 06:40 AM.

10-06-2006, 12:34 PM	#29
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Hehe cool chart, I actually have played in 12 games since I joined the Spawn II game on the second day i think or so. Alot of those games I actually totally forgot about

10-06-2006, 04:02 PM	#30
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Thanks Gramm--very cool. I have been in 12 games. I played in 5 of the first 9 and then didn't play again until Game #22. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-07-2006, 11:19 AM	#31
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	wow I played in 20 games!! great list thanks

02-21-2008, 07:56 PM	#33
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	has anyone updated this or do we need some work on it?

02-21-2008, 10:03 PM	#36
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	dola - so I can help update it & keep it up to date/improve it.

02-22-2008, 06:14 AM	#37
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Never knew I hosted the most games. I think I've hosted more than I've played, actually. Heh. Can't wait to host another one.... only several more people in front of me. __________________ Come and see.

02-22-2008, 07:17 AM	#39
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Taken from the Wiki http://www.rwbl.net/fofcwiki/index.p...Werewolf_Games Peregrine has hosted 8 games. I have hosted 6 games. Peregrine and myself were pretty much the de-facto hosts in the early days (months? ) of Werewolf. Out of the first 17 games, Peregrine hosted 6, and I hosted 5. I dropped off for a couple of years before hosting my recent game, Beneath The Iron Cross. __________________ Come and see. Last edited by Neon_Chaos : 02-22-2008 at 07:17 AM.

02-22-2008, 07:22 AM	#40
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	My upcoming game will be my 6th hosted game as well, but I'm guessing Barkeep or a couple others are probably up to 7th or 8th as well now.

02-22-2008, 07:36 AM	#41
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I've hosted 9 Large games and 2 or 3 small ones.

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