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Old 05-01-2008, 02:23 PM   #1201
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Why me on Night One wolves? Whatupwitdat?
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:24 PM   #1202
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Really though why was everyone going on about how dangerous a wolf Pass was why not mentioning Lathum. I thought he was going to be the biggest target at the beginning.

Word. I can't believe that I spelled out how bad of a wolf I am, and people STILL said I would be someone the alpha wolf would choose.
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:27 PM   #1203
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Why me on Night One wolves? Whatupwitdat?

I guess that was on me. I had to decide who Narcizo would take down as the brutal wolf, and we talked about killing you instead of KWhit, but I forget why. NC didn't PM me about it until a half hour past deadline, so I didn't think too hard about it, and just went with it.

But thinking about that weird stoppage in play due to the duke taking out the brutal wolf (who wasn't expecting to die) reminded me of how I was in the same position as you -- I think someone duked it to EagleFan, and he ended up killing me, after a similar pause in play. I looked back to see when that last happened -- it was NC's last game. Is the the only one that includes a duke and a brutal wolf, or is he just unlucky?
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:41 PM   #1204
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rigggghhhhhhhttttttttttttt

Hey, he woulda been a hero this time!
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Old 05-01-2008, 03:32 PM   #1205
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But I'd always recommend never voting nightfall when it's that close and there's no clear cut bad guy. You don't have to read all the bickering

There was no nightfall in this game! It's not in Neon's ruleset and he confirmed that to me by PM and said he would tell everyone once he was directly asked about it!
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Old 05-01-2008, 03:40 PM   #1206
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Ah I thought it was a standard rule, but doesn't matter because nfg wasn't going to change his mind. Good to know for future games, though.
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Old 05-01-2008, 06:57 PM   #1207
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If NFG had put in his vote for me, and you switched yours from ITC to me, I would have just switched mine from NTN to ITC.
Maybe, but you would have confirmed my thoughts and shown your hand to everyone. Especially as we know that ITC was a villager and would have been shown as such.
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Old 05-01-2008, 07:01 PM   #1208
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Did Sonic Youth actually scan Pass as a wolf?
I didn't, but after scanning nfg22, realised that he had hinted that Pass was a wolf, his I have a strong huntch about him led me to believe that he was a wolf.
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Old 05-01-2008, 07:07 PM   #1209
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Maybe, but you would have confirmed my thoughts and shown your hand to everyone. Especially as we know that ITC was a villager and would have been shown as such.

I suppose, but people had been giving me a "self-defense" pass for Days 1 and 2. I might have been gone Turn 4, but that's not much sooner than I did go anyway.
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Old 05-01-2008, 10:16 PM   #1210
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Old 05-02-2008, 07:33 AM   #1211
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I suppose, but people had been giving me a "self-defense" pass for Days 1 and 2. I might have been gone Turn 4, but that's not much sooner than I did go anyway.
We'll never know. A critical moment is what I think. Time for me to move on. When's the next game start now
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Old 05-02-2008, 07:41 AM   #1212
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We'll never know. A critical moment is what I think. Time for me to move on. When's the next game start now

Roles are going out Monday morning, Day 1 ends Tuesday 3 PM Eastern. I'm pumped!
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Old 05-02-2008, 08:03 AM   #1213
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I guess that was on me. I had to decide who Narcizo would take down as the brutal wolf, and we talked about killing you instead of KWhit, but I forget why. NC didn't PM me about it until a half hour past deadline, so I didn't think too hard about it, and just went with it.

I don't really understand why there was a hold up as I'd pretty much been bombarding Neon with annoying PM's about conditional orders and had deliberately set up a standing order just in the case of a duke taking me out, while Pass had a conditional order in for me to kill KWhit and, if he was already dead, heinz, with PB making the kill if I was dead.

Other than that there was no real reason to pick heinz - I was for it because you seem to do a lot of analysis of actual facts, which is always a dangerous for a villager to do. (from the wolves point of view).

I hope this game's day one will help people realise that it is always far better to push two or three candidates on day one rather than have a huge collection of single votes. With three candidates there's a good chance you're going to hit a wolf and all the wolves can then do is try to save their own by switching their votes (as I did), something which helps identify wolves later down the line, even if you lynch a villager day one.
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:45 AM   #1214
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Other than that there was no real reason to pick heinz - I was for it because you seem to do a lot of analysis of actual facts, which is always a dangerous for a villager to do. (from the wolves point of view).

Fear The Heinz!
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:46 AM   #1215
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Why me on Night One wolves? Whatupwitdat?

Because we all agree you are kind of annoying.

In fact, any game you die an early death it is safe to assume I am a wolf.
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Old 05-02-2008, 10:40 AM   #1216
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Because we all agree you are kind of annoying.

In fact, any game you die an early death it is safe to assume I am a wolf.
Awesome. In the next game I'm a wolf and Lathum's not I'm going to push to have JH die early so that the villagers lynch Lathum.
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Old 05-02-2008, 10:46 AM   #1217
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Awesome. In the next game I'm a wolf and Lathum's not I'm going to push to have JH die early so that the villagers lynch Lathum.

Ha. You know in the next game Lathum is going to kill heinz then go off about how everyone is trying to set him up!
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Old 05-02-2008, 11:07 AM   #1218
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Yeah thanks for that Lathum. Now I'm going to die whether you're a wolf or not.
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Old 05-02-2008, 12:03 PM   #1219
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Yeah thanks for that Lathum. Now I'm going to die whether you're a wolf or not.

lol, you might find out how Saldana felt. He got night killed on night 1 two different times by people trying to set me up.
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Old 05-02-2008, 12:17 PM   #1220
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Awesome. In the next game I'm a wolf and Lathum's not I'm going to push to have JH die early so that the villagers lynch Lathum.

like I'm not going to be lynched early next game anyway

you know I love you heinzy!
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Old 05-02-2008, 12:20 PM   #1221
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Now that I think about it Pass is running the next game and no one actualy dies in his games
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Old 05-02-2008, 12:22 PM   #1222
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Now that I think about it Pass is running the next game and no one actualy dies in his games

Heh, that was just one game! In this game, people can start dying like crazy, but that depends on how you all play it.
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Old 05-03-2008, 10:57 AM   #1223
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While I have not played in many of these games I have witnessed many over the last few years. I am constantly shocked when Lathum wins because he has gained someone's trust. Let's face it. He is a wolf more often than not. What's the worst that happens? He's a villager. Best rule of thumb, when in doubt vote him out. He is lying 80% of them time.
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Old 05-03-2008, 04:35 PM   #1224
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Old 05-03-2008, 07:50 PM   #1225
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While I have not played in many of these games I have witnessed many over the last few years. I am constantly shocked when Lathum wins because he has gained someone's trust. Let's face it. He is a wolf more often than not. What's the worst that happens? He's a villager. Best rule of thumb, when in doubt vote him out. He is lying 80% of them time.
Well then you should play in the games to make sure he gets what's coming to him!
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Old 05-03-2008, 09:36 PM   #1226
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Well then you should play in the games to make sure he gets what's coming to him!

I agree. Let's get some 40 player WW games. Can you imagine?
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Old 05-03-2008, 09:56 PM   #1227
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lol, glad to know my wife says I can't be trusted 80% of the time
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Old 05-03-2008, 10:20 PM   #1228
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More importantly, the FLYERS WON. I never trusted you in this game, Lathum.
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Old 05-03-2008, 10:21 PM   #1229
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I agree. Let's get some 40 player WW games. Can you imagine?
40 is a lot. Frankly, I think above 20 you need multiple deaths to keep the game from getting boring. And frankly if we were to start getting mid to upper 20s it would be time to bring back the small game.
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Old 05-03-2008, 10:31 PM   #1230
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I'm not saying it should be that many everytime. A game that large would place an incredible strain on the GM, it'd have to be planned very well. Every game I've been in on this site has been run very well, very fairly, so I'm not complaining or anything. I think it'd just be fun to see one game with that kind of craziness.
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Old 05-03-2008, 10:59 PM   #1231
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read the survivor game if you want craziness
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Old 05-04-2008, 01:33 AM   #1232
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read the survivor game if you want craziness

ill read it tomorrow, im too happy right now.
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Old 05-04-2008, 11:17 PM   #1233
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haha wow i saw ironman tonight, it actually was pretty good. my favorite part may have been when the guy said, "this isn't my first rodeo"

made me think of lathum
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