Time to do some Killin'

[lungs]

Both of my dogs have been attacked by coyotes in the past week. One is currently in the vet hospital. I've put out a $50 bounty for every coyote that is hanging in my tree by the end of the weekend and have a group of hunters eager to pitch in.

Before anybody calls me irresponsible for letting my dogs get attacked, I won't disagree. I let my dogs run free as I live in the country. I understand the risks. But that doesn't mean I won't seek revenge on the fucking coyotes.

I'm out for blood now.

[molson]

I'm not sure you can technically seek "revenge" on an animal who will have no idea why you're killing it.

[lungs]

Well, I really don't give a shit.

[lighthousekeeper]

Originally Posted by lungs

I've put out a $50 bounty for every coyote that is hanging in my tree by the end of the weekend and have a group of hunters eager to pitch in.

you have a tree growing out of your car?

[flere-imsaho]

Dude, you need to tell your dogs to cowboy up.

Or get bigger dogs.

Or a llama.

[cthomer5000]

That'll learn them coyotes

[Butter]

Get a bunch of ACME products, that seems to do the trick.

[Drake]

My state pays a $35 bounty on coyotes as a nuisance animal. I've shot a few (because they menace my knee-biter dogs and farm cats), but haven't ever collected a bounty.

[Mustang]

Vote Coyote

[Senator]

This will send a message screaming through the coyote community.

[Logan]

Make sure you get Jon Moxon, but leave Tweeter out of this.

[DeToxRox]

Remember to noose one of the coyotes on the closest tree to your house. Teach those motherfuckers a lesson about what happens when you get too close.

[cartman]

We've got some coyotes around here, but they have enough small game that they haven't bothered pets. More concerning, though, is the recent confirmed mountain lion sighting about a half mile from my house.

[JediKooter]

+1

[DaddyTorgo]

good luck lungs!

[Drake]

Originally Posted by cartman

We've got some coyotes around here, but they have enough small game that they haven't bothered pets. More concerning, though, is the recent confirmed mountain lion sighting about a half mile from my house.

Yup. We don't have mountain lions, but I was really worried about coyotes right up until I started finding bobcat tracks up by my pond. I haven't seen that one yet, but the Dept. of Natural Resources guy who came out to my house to look at them confirmed it was a bobcat (pulling fish out of my pond, no less!).

Worse comes to worse, if I catch it, I can have it prosecuted for fishing without a license.

[RedKingGold]

My father was a coyote!

[lungs]

It wouldn't be so bad, and I'd just chalk it up to a dog getting his ass kicked by a coyote but the coyotes are becoming a nuisance around here and are losing their fear of humans. I've seen one come right up to our buildings where we house our cattle. They won't harm our large cattle, but the calves are another story.

Some of you may laugh at me thinking that I am sending a message to these varmints, but if we manage to pick a few off, they might be less apt to come into my territory. Gotta think like a dog and establish my dominance over my territory.

Now to fix the other part of the problem, does anybody have any experiences with wireless dog fences? An invisible fence is not really an option because I have waaaaay too much territory I'd need to cover. I want to maintain some freedom for my dogs, but not too much.

The injured dog is showing pretty amazing improvement. That's the worst the vets ever saw a dog get beaten up and survive. He may lose an eye, but he should pull through.

[Cringer]

Hunting for coyote is not fun unless you use a cannon, 12lb. cannon at least. Using a cannon would make hunting for anything fun though.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Get a bunch of ACME products, that seems to do the trick.

SI

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

True men don't kill coyotes

/rhcp

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by Logan

Make sure you get Jon Moxon, but leave Tweeter out of this.

Hahahahaha

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by cartman

We've got some coyotes around here, but they have enough small game that they haven't bothered pets. More concerning, though, is the recent confirmed mountain lion sighting about a half mile from my house.

You sure they aren't cougars?

[JeffNights]

When we visit our Uncle property up north(Michigan), we bring our two dogs with us, let them run free and they love it of course. Coyotes are no joke, especially those who live around them and they ARE a threat to livestock and small animals. They are definately losing thier fear of humans, as my fiance' was walking our small beagle by a nice creek up there and a coyote charged in an attacked our little beagle, fortunately she also had our APBT with her as well.

That was the last time the coyote ever attacked anything.


Get a bigger dog.

[sterlingice]

I think cougar has run its course/jumped the shark/whatever

SI

[lungs]

Originally Posted by JeffNights

Get a bigger dog.

My two dogs are only six months old They won't be huge by any means, but probably about the size of a coyote.

English setter/blue heeler/border collie mix FWIW

The one that is in the vet hospital acts more like an english setter while the other one that also got attacked acts more like a blue heeler. The blue heeler definitely came out better in the end.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Logan

Make sure you get Jon Moxon, but leave Tweeter out of this.

I don't want....your life.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by lungs

Now to fix the other part of the problem, does anybody have any experiences with wireless dog fences? An invisible fence is not really an option because I have waaaaay too much territory I'd need to cover. I want to maintain some freedom for my dogs, but not too much.

The injured dog is showing pretty amazing improvement. That's the worst the vets ever saw a dog get beaten up and survive. He may lose an eye, but he should pull through.

wireless dog fences? like using wifi?

for the pup maybe losing an eye

[Dr. Sak]

Invisible fences don't put out dog's eyes.

[lungs]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

wireless dog fences? like using wifi?

for the pup maybe losing an eye

Yeah, I saw a product where you put a hub sort of thing in your house and a collar on your dog and it transmits a signal of some kind giving your dog a certain amount of range.

As opposed to the traditional invisible fence where they have bury a wire under the ground. It would cost me a fortune to get that done on the property I have.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by lungs

Yeah, I saw a product where you put a hub sort of thing in your house and a collar on your dog and it transmits a signal of some kind giving your dog a certain amount of range.

As opposed to the traditional invisible fence where they have bury a wire under the ground. It would cost me a fortune to get that done on the property I have.

that's fucking rad. i want one of those!

[DaddyTorgo]

Reviews: Comparison Chart | DIY a Dog Fence Cheaper than Invisible Fence*

Petsafe IF-300 Review | DIY a Dog Fence Cheaper than Invisible Fence* -- this is the one they say is their top pick. unfortunately you might find with wifi that the boundaries are too small - particularly on this one i guess...

[CU Tiger]

we had one, but it just didnt work for us.
our front yard is smaller than the back so with the "hub" in the house the dog either had little to no backyard or could still get in the road.

I put the underground fence in and it kicks ass.

I have 5.8 acres underground fenced and it took a weekend to do, did it myself and cost ~$600

[lungs]

I wonder if it's possible to use two different hubs to expand the range? 90 feet doesn't really do it for me. I might as well keep them tied up.

[path12]

Problem with any kind of fencing (hub or invisible) is that if the coyote gets in that range your dog is kind of cornered, isn't it?

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by lungs

Some of you may laugh at me thinking that I am sending a message to these varmints, but if we manage to pick a few off, they might be less apt to come into my territory. Gotta think like a dog and establish my dominance over my territory.

Get out there start pissing then, dude.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by lungs

Some of you may laugh at me thinking that I am sending a message to these varmints, but if we manage to pick a few off, they might be less apt to come into my territory. Gotta think like a dog and establish my dominance over my territory.

You can become a Cesar Milan for the coyote crowd!

[Subby]

Well if you kill a couple they are only going to get pissed and kill off the rest of your candy-assed pets.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

If you hadn't dumped the toxic waste on their land, they never would have been forced to attack your dogs in the first place.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by path12

Problem with any kind of fencing (hub or invisible) is that if the coyote gets in that range your dog is kind of cornered, isn't it?

well that's why you make sure the house is within the range i suppose

[Mustang]

License to kill coyotes by the government of the United Nations. Man, free to kill coyotes at will. To kill, you must know your enemy, and in this case my enemy is a coyote. And a coyote will never quit - ever. They're like the Viet Cong - coyote Cong. So you have to fall back on superior firepower and superior intelligence. And that's all she wrote.

[lungs]

Originally Posted by path12

Problem with any kind of fencing (hub or invisible) is that if the coyote gets in that range your dog is kind of cornered, isn't it?

Not really for my situation anyway. The problem is my dogs entering the coyote's territory I'm guessing. They don't come up to my house during the day and my dogs are locked up at night.

If they did come up to the house during the day, the hunting would be much, much easier. Speaking of the hunt, I had a baby calf die today.... perfect bait. We're going to cut it open and put it out in the field. That ought to bring them in.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Mustang

License to kill coyotes by the government of the United Nations. Man, free to kill coyotes at will. To kill, you must know your enemy, and in this case my enemy is a coyote. And a coyote will never quit - ever. They're like the Viet Cong - coyote Cong. So you have to fall back on superior firepower and superior intelligence. And that's all she wrote.

I smell coyote poon tang...and the only good coyote poon tang is dead coyote poon tang.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

So how are you going to get the electric collars onto the coyotes?

[RendeR]

SO you say they don't come near during the day and your dogs can't get out at night, so the dogs are going out into their territory during the day and getting their asses handed to them, in pieces apparently.

And this is the Coyotes fault?

You're living in an area where the indigenous predators are large and strong enough to take down medium size animals (calves, dogs etc) and you allow your animals to run loose, and...you are upset when the wilder, stronger, more ferocious animals win?

Of course they must be exterminated. makes perfect sense.

I'm sorry your dogs got hurt. I just got a dog and I understand what you must feel for them, but your plan of action leaves me despising you as a human being.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by RendeR

SO you say they don't come near during the day and your dogs can't get out at night, so the dogs are going out into their territory during the day and getting their asses handed to them, in pieces apparently.

And this is the Coyotes fault?

You're living in an area where the indigenous predators are large and strong enough to take down medium size animals (calves, dogs etc) and you allow your animals to run loose, and...you are upset when the wilder, stronger, more ferocious animals win?

Of course they must be exterminated. makes perfect sense.

I'm sorry your dogs got hurt. I just got a dog and I understand what you must feel for them, but your plan of action leaves me despising you as a human being.

That all works ecologically until you realize the coyotes were introduced outside of their natural habitart where they have no natural predator. We kill them by the dozens and my grandads farm.

We had 4 on the proch pawing at the sliding glass door where my grandmother was on the other side....they declared war - we were just better armed.

[Drake]

Yup to CU. With a proper natural order, coyotes are actually a benefit (i.e., in appropriate numbers) because they take down the deer that are starving to death (because *they've* been allowed to overpopulate).

But when there are too many coyotes and they're hungry, they stop behaving like coyotes and start behaving more like packs of wild dogs.

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by Subby

Well if you kill a couple they are only going to get pissed and kill off the rest of your candy-assed pets.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Drake

Yup to CU. With a proper natural order, coyotes are actually a benefit (i.e., in appropriate numbers) because they take down the deer that are starving to death (because *they've* been allowed to overpopulate).

But when there are too many coyotes and they're hungry, they stop behaving like coyotes and start behaving more like packs of wild dogs.

This. They are an animal in need of control. We need Coyote birth control! At least Coyote sex education classes. I thought we had a Democrat in the White House!

[lungs]

Originally Posted by RendeR

SO you say they don't come near during the day and your dogs can't get out at night, so the dogs are going out into their territory during the day and getting their asses handed to them, in pieces apparently.

And this is the Coyotes fault?

You're living in an area where the indigenous predators are large and strong enough to take down medium size animals (calves, dogs etc) and you allow your animals to run loose, and...you are upset when the wilder, stronger, more ferocious animals win?

Of course they must be exterminated. makes perfect sense.

I'm sorry your dogs got hurt. I just got a dog and I understand what you must feel for them, but your plan of action leaves me despising you as a human being.

The problem is that they are not indigenous. They've moved into this territory. You are correct that is was absolutely my dog's fault, but like others have said there are a lot more problems associated with coyotes.

Despise me all you want, but this was the straw that broke the camel's back. And it's not like we can just go into the woods in put the barrel of the gun to their heads and shoot. We didn't get anything last night. It's not just my dogs. I've got cattle to protect too. The deer population around my house has declined dramatically even over the past year. This isn't just about my dogs. It's about exterminating a nuisance animal.