US vs Spain soccer (spoilers) - Now BRA vs RSA live

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Are they going to ban those fucking horns for the World Cup? It's the most annoying thing I've ever heard. Completely drowns out the crowd and makes me want to hit mute.

they're apparently debating it. the tv stations want no, and since they have a lot of sway i'd guess that's the way it will go

[Big Fo]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Are they going to ban those fucking horns for the World Cup? It's the most annoying thing I've ever heard. Completely drowns out the crowd and makes me want to hit mute.

Despite many complaints by European broadcasters the vuvuzelas are here to stay.

Originally Posted by FIFA President Sepp Blatter

“Yes, the vuvuzelas are different,” the FIFA president said. “And honestly I don't hear them any more. We have brought the World Cup to Africa where the atmosphere and the culture are different. What message would we be sending out if we said, ‘We are going to prohibit the instrument you use to express your joy'? That would be discrimination, pure and simple.”

[Big Fo]

Altidore scores, it's just as good watching it a second time

[RainMaker]

I guess we can just mute it. Takes away a lot of the fun but as long as some dipshits get to blow their plastic horn, oh well.

[FBPro]

Just outstanding, tivoed it and will watch it tomorrow night sa-weet!!

[Big Fo]

I want this commercial with scenes from the last two games added.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

I blame Angels fans.

Naw, blame us for the sticks, not the horns.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Big Fo

I want this commercial with scenes from the last two games added.

Does anyone have a link to the commercial that opens in Central America with the locker room shaking?

[DaddyTorgo]

classy postgame quotes from the spaniards - translated courtesy of bigsoccer

Quotes from the Españoles team - USA Men: News & Analysis - Soccer forum - BigSoccer

[RomaGoth]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

classy postgame quotes from the spaniards - translated courtesy of bigsoccer

Quotes from the Españoles team - USA Men: News & Analysis - Soccer forum - BigSoccer

Very classy by the Spanish. Too bad more athletes around the world and here in the U.S. can't emulate that.

[DaddyTorgo]

yep. Spain is far and away my #2 favorite team, and I guess Brazil #3 (it's hard not to find their individual talent fun to watch), so it was very nice to see the players displaying a lot of class after what really had to be a devestating defeat.

[chesapeake]

I think Bradley gets treated unfairly by many because they expect him to consistently compete in first class matches with second class talent. I also think there is a false belief that the Bigger Better Deal (BBD) is right around the corner with regard to coaching any team, and that certainly applies here. There is a reason that the "interrim" was dropped from Bradley's name after our global search for a coach. No BBD wanted the job.

US fans are going to have to be content with continuing to be a big fish in our small pond, laying the occasional egg and putting together a big match every now and then. More teams are being added to MLS every season and the sport is growing domestically. Moving up the global ranks will take time, but we are moving in the right direction. Lest we forget, it was less than 20 years ago that the US finally returned to the World Cup for the first time in 40 years.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by chesapeake

I think Bradley gets treated unfairly by many because they expect him to consistently compete in first class matches with second class talent. I also think there is a false belief that the Bigger Better Deal (BBD) is right around the corner with regard to coaching any team, and that certainly applies here. There is a reason that the "interrim" was dropped from Bradley's name after our global search for a coach. No BBD wanted the job.

US fans are going to have to be content with continuing to be a big fish in our small pond, laying the occasional egg and putting together a big match every now and then. More teams are being added to MLS every season and the sport is growing domestically. Moving up the global ranks will take time, but we are moving in the right direction. Lest we forget, it was less than 20 years ago that the US finally returned to the World Cup for the first time in 40 years.

good points.

i never thought 2010 was realistic for any type of competitiveness by our guys. IMHO it's more like...2022 or 2026 before we'll be in a World Cup final.

[RomaGoth]

I watched the replay of the game last night (instant classic). Both goals by the U.S. were due to hard work, deflections, and some luck.

A great win for us.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

good points.

i never thought 2010 was realistic for any type of competitiveness by our guys. IMHO it's more like...2022 or 2026 before we'll be in a World Cup final.

fyi - initially i had posted 2030 or 2034 but then i revised that because that seems a hell of a long way away

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Since only two teams make a World Cup Final, it is very possible (probable?) that we won't see it in our lifetimes.

England, with much better talent that the US, has made it once in the last 80 years.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Since only two teams make a World Cup Final, it is very possible (probable?) that we won't see it in our lifetimes.

England, with much better talent that the US, has made it once in the last 80 years.

you do make a good point. perhaps i should use a different metric for my "end goal" then...just not sure what that would be.

[DaddyTorgo]

i guess...pick whatever "end goal" you want...i think it'll be 2030 before the USA is able to compete night-in and night-out with the top european nations, before we start seeing US players fully integrated into the global transfer market, etc.

basically i think we have another 15-20 years

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

England, with much better talent that the US, has made it once in the last 80 years.

Hell, look at Spain. Never finished in the Final 2 (were in the last 4 in 1950, which was a strange setup).

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by chesapeake

I think Bradley gets treated unfairly by many because they expect him to consistently compete in first class matches with second class talent. I also think there is a false belief that the Bigger Better Deal (BBD) is right around the corner with regard to coaching any team, and that certainly applies here. There is a reason that the "interrim" was dropped from Bradley's name after our global search for a coach. No BBD wanted the job.

US fans are going to have to be content with continuing to be a big fish in our small pond, laying the occasional egg and putting together a big match every now and then. More teams are being added to MLS every season and the sport is growing domestically. Moving up the global ranks will take time, but we are moving in the right direction. Lest we forget, it was less than 20 years ago that the US finally returned to the World Cup for the first time in 40 years.

Interesting article that asserts the same idea. I agree, that our talent just isn't there yet to expect consistent competitive results.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns...oot=us&cc=5901

[BrianD]

South Africa has started with much the same strategy as the US. Total defense with counter attacks. I think RSA is playing a 4-4-2, but they are playing it like a 4-1-4-1. Brazil is clearly the better team, but if RSA can avoid any stupid mistakes, their defense might be hard to break.

[ISiddiqui]

Perhaps, but I did read an interesting article a few days back that Brazil doesn't play as it used to in the past, stringing along beautiful passes to break through the defense. Spain actually tends to plays that way now and while it is beautiful, it is also susceptible to being shut down as the US showed us. Brazil tends to play a more "European" tactical game, which has been described as boring... and may have better luck.

BBC - BBC Sport: Tim Vickery: Brazil - youth, power, and a distaste for the passing game

[DaddyTorgo]

nobody's gonna spoil this one for me

as if the outcome is in doubt.

[BrianD]

I don't know how much their current play is different from the past, but they still get a lot of action off of strings of beautiful passes. If nothing else, they still show flashes of their old style. The big difference I see right now is that South Africa wants it more. This could be an exciting match.

[Big Fo]

There is no reason for Brazil to keep running Gilberto Silva out there, even a few years ago he wasn't what he used to be.

Very close shot from Kaka after some smooth dribbling.

[BrianD]

Fantastic save there by the South African keeper.

[BrianD]

How much was that last fall overemphasized? That didn't look like that bad a foul?

[BrianD]

Even at the half. RSA should be much more tired than BRA in the second half. We'll see if they have the legs to stay in this.

[BrianD]

Heartbreak for South Africa. Brazil scores in the 88th minute off of a free kick just outside of the penalty area.

[ISiddiqui]

Held tough though...

[BrianD]

South Africa should feel proud of their performance. They were the equal of Brazil today.

[BishopMVP]

Oof. Dani Alves with the best Brazilian FK since Roberto Carlos' wonder-strike against France.

[kingfc22]

I guess that was a good substitution...

[Passacaglia]

Wasn't sure whether to put this in this thread, or the Where's My Governor? thread, so I put it here:

Oh you shouldn’t have kissed me and got me so excited
And when you asked me out I really was delighted
So we went to a pub in belsize park
And we cheered on england as the sky grew dark
Oh you shouldn’t have kissed me cause you started a fire
But then I found out that you’re a serial liar

You lied about your status
You lied about your life
You never mentioned your three children
And the fact you have a wife
Now it’s england 2 colombia 0
And I know just how those colombians feel

If you hadn’t passed out while I was talking to your friend
It could have really ended badly cause you very nearly had me
If he hadn’t taken pity on my heart full of desire
I might never have found out you’re a serial liar

You lied about your status
You lied about your life
You forgot you have three children
You forgot you have a wife
Now it’s england 2 colombia 0
And I know just how those colombians feel

It is not in my nature to ever pick the winning team
Sometimes I think I’m happy then I remember it’s a dream
Now it isn’t in my nature to ever pick a winner
I always pick a bastard who would have me for his dinner

I can never possess the object of my desire
Cause he’s bound to turn out to be a serial liar
Ok I didn’t mention my kids, I thought I’d wait a bit
But I am free and single and he’s a lying git

Cause he lied about his status
He lied about his life
He forgot he had three children
He forgot he had a wife
And it’s england 2 colombia 0
I know just how those colombians feel

So I got into a taxi and sobbed all the way home
Called my friend up in sao paulo and cried down the phone
I played some tragic music and I lay down to die
But later I woke and I hadn’t stopped crying

You should never have kissed me, you tasted of deceit
Your perfume was adultery but I’m not a piece of meat
So I’ll be the one that you couldn’t acquire
I found out in time you’re a serial liar

You lied about your status
You lied about your life
And I pity your three children
And I pity your poor wife
Now you can go to hell
I’m going to brazil
Still it’s england 2 colombia 0