OT: PokerPro Tables

[Marmel]

Anybody see these in action? I played a $100 sit and go on one at Mohegan Sun last night. I thought I would hate it, and while I still prefer cards and chips, this was a very cool experience. I particularly liked the fact that in an all in situation where the 2 players have their cards flipped, it shows the odds of winning the hand as the flop, turn and river cards come. Also, you always know how many chips everyone at the table has.

The cons were that the 'fold and muck' and 'fold and show' buttons are very close together and a few times people hit the wrong button and showed their cards. Also, when they call a new sit and go, you have to wait for everyone to show up...they cant blind people's stacks down, as your money is not taken until you show up at the table and insert your players card. We waited 10 minutes to get started, and they finally had to call alternates.

Still, the pros outweighed the cons and I think this is very innovative. I can't wait to play there again.

Here is the companies website. They have a video of how the tables work.

http://www.playpokerpro.com/

[MJ4H]

ugh I sure wouldn't like the odds being shown.

[Marmel]

Originally Posted by MattJones4Heisman

ugh I sure wouldn't like the odds being shown.

It only shows that when who ever is in flips their cards over. You don't see your odds during play.

[Lathum]

I dunno, seems so non-traditional.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I wouldn't like the odds being shown because I wouldn't want bad players to know that they've gotten their chips in at a bad time.

[Lathum]

I agree with the odds thing.

can you look at your cards when you want to or are they dealt face up?

[Marmel]

Either you guys don't understand when the odds show, or I am not seeing an advantage for a bad player. If I have pocket jacks and go all in after the flop, 1 player calls, everyone else folds. We flip our cards, then the odds show. My pocket jacks might be 80%, or they might be 10% depending on what the other person has. It doesn't tell me if this was a good move or not for the future.

You can look at your cards whenever you want by placing your hands over a spot on your monitor...same motion as if you were peeking at real cards. I thought it would be easy for others to see your cards, but it is very safe.

Yes, very non-traditional, but I can see casinos adopting this. No dealer needed, 1 or 2 pit bosses ran all the tables. No sign ups, no additional cashiers, since you go to the cage and put $x dollars on your players card, then put your card in the table when you are ready to play and it takes the money electronically. Games move faster, more hands played per hour, etc.

I still like cards and chips, but I like playing this table too.

[Lathum]

I think the point is anytime someone see's their odds it educates them regardless if the hand is over or not and I wouldn't want bad players being educated.

[MJ4H]

Originally Posted by Marmel

It only shows that when who ever is in flips their cards over. You don't see your odds during play.

I realized that. I don't want people I'm playing against thinking in those terms.

[Lathum]

dola- I also hate the fact it removes a number of psyhical tells from the game.

Watching someone handle their chips and cards gives away tons of information.

[MJ4H]

Originally Posted by Lathum

dola

fail

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by MattJones4Heisman

fail

bitch!!

[TLK]

Originally Posted by LasVegasAdvisor.com

• August 12, 2008 Excalibur Poker Room Closing An MGM Mirage source informs LVA that Excalibur's poker room will close at 2 a.m. on Sunday, to be retrofitted with PokerPro automated poker tables. The projected reopening date is said to be on or around Aug. 22.

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[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by TLK

• August 12, 2008 Excalibur Poker Room Closing

An MGM Mirage source informs LVA that Excalibur's poker room will close at 2 a.m. on Sunday, to be retrofitted with PokerPro automated poker tables. The projected reopening date is said to be on or around Aug. 22..

NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I've literally paid for three of my trips to Vegas at the Excalibur poker room in the 2-6 spread games. The players there were TERRIBLE. This obviously takes away a big advantage. I'll now have to hunt for a new set of suckers.

[Comey]

I'll have to go to Mohegan and check this out.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Great news. The Excalibur is ending its trial run with automated tables and hiring back much of its dealer staff. I guess an empty poker room doesn't sit well with management.

Poker Prof's Poker Blog - Excalibur to remove PokerTek e-tables, reinstate old poker room and dealers

[albionmoonlight]

Take my impressions with a grain of salt b/c I don't play poker in Casinos (not good enough).

But it seems that you are kind of missing the point when you use an automated table. If I want to play automated poker, I can do that online at home 24/7.

Part of why it is worth driving to a casino to play, I would expect, is to have the physical feel of the cards and the chips and the like---to get to actually be like the guys you see on TV. And if you don't have that, then what is the point?

Of course, casinos want people playing higher return games than poker anyway, so maybe part of this move would be to discourage people from playing poker.

[Logan]

Well as a very casual player, I just don't enjoy sitting at my laptop and flying through hands...I missed the interaction at the table. It could potentially be nice to play at one of these where you're still observing players' reactions, making small talk, etc but don't need to sit around waiting for an idiot to count out his $8 bet, and then have the dealer tell him it's actually $7.

I see the obvious downside though.