WW: Scooby Doo and the Horrible Halloween Party of Doom! Game over - Monsters win!! - Page 30

lerriuqs · 10-31-2009, 12:04 AM

Unless there's only one wolf, this game is over as far as I can tell...

Lathum · 10-31-2009, 12:34 AM

OK, so we need to take out CR then?

Lathum · 10-31-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lerriuqs

Unless there's only one wolf, this game is over as far as I can tell...

it is.

We vote Martin then they kill a villager making it 2-2-1. Game over.

Otherwise they vote in a block making it 3-3-1. Night kill. Game over.

I think EF's vote ends it.

lerriuqs · 10-31-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

it is.

We vote Martin then they kill a villager making it 2-2-1. Game over.

Otherwise they vote in a block making it 3-3-1. Night kill. Game over.

I think EF's vote ends it.

Yup. Sorry Schmidty, it's probably not the way you wanted to see it end, but this game is over.

Lathum · 10-31-2009, 12:46 AM

unless there is only one wolf

lerriuqs · 10-31-2009, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

unless there is only one wolf

Which doesn't jive with what Schmidty told us on Day 1.

Chief Rum · 10-31-2009, 02:14 AM

Well, that deadline went the way it was expected to, and yet, didn't.

I think this game's over. No shame in calling it, Schmidty.

We could play it out, even to Tuesday, but I don't see a way for the village to win it unless the wolves/Igor actively act to lose it.

Darth Vilus · 10-31-2009, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

I just want to get something off of my chest. I'm not going to direct this specifically at someone, but if you don't have any interest in playing once the game starts, instead of just drifting through and not caring if you live or die, please try to find a replacement. For example, I am pretty darned sure that Darth would have been happy to take someone's spot.

That is all.

You would be pretty darned right in saying that Lord Vilus would have been happy to take someone's spot.

i also just have a general game question, if everyone votes nightfall but vote for different people, well that's allowed correct?

Darth Vilus · 10-31-2009, 02:49 AM

i mean that still ends the day right?

MartinD · 10-31-2009, 03:22 AM

Making it official:

VOTE MARTIND
VOTE NIGHTFALL

I am Igor (to clear up any remaining doubt), and there are two wolves left. I was converted in the night turn, so the current position is 3-2, with 2 players not counting towards either side - lynching me (which will now happen if the two wolves vote for me) will make that 3-2, with 1 player not counting, and the (unblockable, unless I'm missing something) night kill makes it 2-2 and game over, wolves win.

Apologies for my lack of contributions over the last couple of days, but I was in a position where I didn't feel that I could contribute anything useful to the game - it was obvious that I wasn't trying to help the village (so anything I posted would not have been trusted), and I didn't see any moves I could make that would help my position. I was also aware that I wouldn't count towards win conditions if I was converted, but didn't want to make other people aware of that (as there was an assumption that the converted cultist would count as a monster), so keeping quiet seemed to be the best option...

(Making sure to double-check this post, because I screwed up my fake reveal a couple of days back...)

JAG · 10-31-2009, 04:05 AM

I'm embarrassed I missed that in the rules.

EagleFan · 10-31-2009, 06:26 AM

I'm embarrassed for how poorly I played this game.

lerriuqs · 10-31-2009, 10:58 AM

So who are the wolves remaining??

The Jackal · 10-31-2009, 11:39 AM

Not me, unfortunately.

Lathum · 10-31-2009, 11:59 AM

CR and CW.

They took some risks in voting and it paid off.

Good game Schmidty, I think all the early reveals hurt us a lot in the long run.

hoopsguy · 10-31-2009, 12:11 PM

I think forcing me to be lynched hurt us a lot in the long run

Danny · 10-31-2009, 01:26 PM

Honestly, you guys were pretty much with my list. On day 3 or something I sent Schmidty a PM saying those who I thought most likely to be wolves were Jag, Raiders Army, Coffee Warlord and NTN. I had 2/4, but the one I ended up most surprised about was Jag.

EagleFan · 10-31-2009, 01:47 PM

Unfortunately I didn't think it through before voting today. We still would have a slim chance if that were the case (if we didn't hit on the brutal).

I apologize for my kneejerk reaction.

Obviously the wolves also didn't realize that rule either or they would have taken out a villager for the win last night. Looking at it that way I would rather it end this way instead of with us making a miraculous comeback after last night as it's not like we understood the rule and they didn't. Since we both misunderstood the rule it ends up being a wash with how the game ended.

EagleFan · 10-31-2009, 01:50 PM

I wish that I had gone with my original take on RA and stayed with the theory that if Abe was bad RA was good. I would have been lobbying more and more for him to not be lynched if that were the case.

I also wish I didn't let the whole JAG is a wolf mantra talk me into it. I really didn't have him high on my suspect list but after hearing so many people say that he must be a wolf I just kind of believed it. Then when he was on the block and didn't seem to be fighting back I read it as a wolf who had given up.

Oh well, back to RL: Congrats again JAG!!!

Coffee Warlord · 10-31-2009, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Obviously the wolves also didn't realize that rule either or they would have taken out a villager for the win last night. Looking at it that way I would rather it end this way instead of with us making a miraculous comeback after last night as it's not like we understood the rule and they didn't. Since we both misunderstood the rule it ends up being a wash with how the game ended.

Which rule?

EagleFan · 10-31-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Which rule?

That converting Martin would have no effect on the win conditions.

Chief Rum · 10-31-2009, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Which rule?

Igor not counting toward wolves or village after being converted.

MartinD · 10-31-2009, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Obviously the wolves also didn't realize that rule either or they would have taken out a villager for the win last night. Looking at it that way I would rather it end this way instead of with us making a miraculous comeback after last night as it's not like we understood the rule and they didn't. Since we both misunderstood the rule it ends up being a wash with how the game ended.

The wolves did 'take out' a villager last night, though - Igor counted as a villager/Party-goer until he was converted, and only then counted towards neither side. The position going into the night phase was 4 villagers (including Igor), 2 wolves, 1 neutral.

Schmidty · 10-31-2009, 04:28 PM

Ok, well I won't drag it out any further.

Good game guys.

EagleFan · 10-31-2009, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinD

The wolves did 'take out' a villager last night, though - Igor counted as a villager/Party-goer until he was converted, and only then counted towards neither side. The position going into the night phase was 4 villagers (including Igor), 2 wolves, 1 neutral.

True but if they took out a villager they would have wrapped up the game at that point.

It would have been 2 non-Igor villagers and me against 2 wolves and you. The voting block would have been 3-3 which means game over unless everyone came out and claimed to be a wolf at that point so you would need to guess where to vote (but so would have I).

It would have been easier for the wolves as they know who they are where the villagers would not so the wolves could make their votes a bit more obvious. By all reason the game would be over at that point.

Schmidty · 10-31-2009, 04:29 PM

Chief Rum and Coffee Warlord were the last two Monsters.

EagleFan · 10-31-2009, 04:29 PM

Good game Schmidty. Thanks for running it.

EagleFan · 10-31-2009, 04:29 PM

CW was brutal I am guessing.

Schmidty · 10-31-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

CW was brutal I am guessing.

Nope. That was CR.

EagleFan · 10-31-2009, 04:36 PM

I would have guessed CW since he was the one being pushed for votes a few times.

Well done wolves.

Chief Rum · 10-31-2009, 05:00 PM

Glad to see this one all wrapped up now. Good game, Schmidty, I had a lot of fun.

Go wolves!

Abe Sargent · 10-31-2009, 05:00 PM

Yay Wolves!

JAG · 10-31-2009, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Unfortunately I didn't think it through before voting today. We still would have a slim chance if that were the case (if we didn't hit on the brutal).

I apologize for my kneejerk reaction.

Obviously the wolves also didn't realize that rule either or they would have taken out a villager for the win last night. Looking at it that way I would rather it end this way instead of with us making a miraculous comeback after last night as it's not like we understood the rule and they didn't. Since we both misunderstood the rule it ends up being a wash with how the game ended.

I was thinking that too.

Well, so much for my guess at the end.

Good fun everyone.

Danny · 10-31-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Glad to see this one all wrapped up now. Good game, Schmidty, I had a lot of fun.

Go wolves!

So who was responsible for orchestrating that awful night 1 kill?

Chief Rum · 10-31-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

So who was responsible for orchestrating that awful night 1 kill?

I don't it was any one of us, but I don't udnerstand why it has been ripped so much. I never felt anyone was seriously going to go after you in the end. You weren't even one of the primary two up for lynching on that day, and it was Day one, besides.

Plus, you claim to have a read on me, so I saw no sense in keeping you around. Plus, I was worried hoops might be protected, and I felt bad because we kept killing him Night One. Turned out to be a good move, because he was protected Night One.

PurdueBrad · 10-31-2009, 06:29 PM

Nicely played guys!

GoldenEagle · 10-31-2009, 07:26 PM

CR/CW,

Do you think I was the cultist?

Chief Rum · 10-31-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

CR/CW,

Do you think I was the cultist?

Not even for a little bit. MartinD's reveal was just too weird. I wasn't sure what to make of it because I didn't think the cultist would be so bold. When you came out with your reveal, that turned things around for me, and it was pretty clear Martin was the cultist between the two of you.

Coffee Warlord · 10-31-2009, 09:53 PM

Nope. For a short while, we halfway thought hoops mighta been the cultist. He was the only real suspect there.

J23 · 10-31-2009, 11:36 PM

Sorry I was so terrible as the seer. I almost didnt scan abe night 1, which would have changed things, but my orders got sent in at 9:00 rather than 8:59

ntndeacon · 10-31-2009, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

So who was responsible for orchestrating that awful night 1 kill?

I actually think it was me who first suggested you being killed Danny.

10-31-2009, 02:14 AM	#1457
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Well, that deadline went the way it was expected to, and yet, didn't. I think this game's over. No shame in calling it, Schmidty. We could play it out, even to Tuesday, but I don't see a way for the village to win it unless the wolves/Igor actively act to lose it. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-31-2009, 02:49 AM	#1459
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	i mean that still ends the day right? __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

10-31-2009, 04:28 PM	#1474
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Ok, well I won't drag it out any further. Good game guys. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

10-31-2009, 04:29 PM	#1476
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Chief Rum and Coffee Warlord were the last two Monsters. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

10-31-2009, 05:00 PM	#1481
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Glad to see this one all wrapped up now. Good game, Schmidty, I had a lot of fun. Go wolves! __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-31-2009, 12:04 AM	#1451
lerriuqs High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Saskatchewan	Unless there's only one wolf, this game is over as far as I can tell...

10-31-2009, 12:34 AM	#1452
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	OK, so we need to take out CR then?

10-31-2009, 12:46 AM	#1455
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	unless there is only one wolf

10-31-2009, 03:22 AM	#1460
MartinD High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: East Lothian, Scotland	Making it official: VOTE MARTIND VOTE NIGHTFALL I am Igor (to clear up any remaining doubt), and there are two wolves left. I was converted in the night turn, so the current position is 3-2, with 2 players not counting towards either side - lynching me (which will now happen if the two wolves vote for me) will make that 3-2, with 1 player not counting, and the (unblockable, unless I'm missing something) night kill makes it 2-2 and game over, wolves win. Apologies for my lack of contributions over the last couple of days, but I was in a position where I didn't feel that I could contribute anything useful to the game - it was obvious that I wasn't trying to help the village (so anything I posted would not have been trusted), and I didn't see any moves I could make that would help my position. I was also aware that I wouldn't count towards win conditions if I was converted, but didn't want to make other people aware of that (as there was an assumption that the converted cultist would count as a monster), so keeping quiet seemed to be the best option... (Making sure to double-check this post, because I screwed up my fake reveal a couple of days back...)

10-31-2009, 04:05 AM	#1461
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	I'm embarrassed I missed that in the rules.

10-31-2009, 06:26 AM	#1462
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I'm embarrassed for how poorly I played this game.

10-31-2009, 10:58 AM	#1463
lerriuqs High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Saskatchewan	So who are the wolves remaining??

10-31-2009, 11:39 AM	#1464
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Not me, unfortunately.

10-31-2009, 11:59 AM	#1465
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	CR and CW. They took some risks in voting and it paid off. Good game Schmidty, I think all the early reveals hurt us a lot in the long run.

10-31-2009, 12:11 PM	#1466
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I think forcing me to be lynched hurt us a lot in the long run

10-31-2009, 01:26 PM	#1467
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Honestly, you guys were pretty much with my list. On day 3 or something I sent Schmidty a PM saying those who I thought most likely to be wolves were Jag, Raiders Army, Coffee Warlord and NTN. I had 2/4, but the one I ended up most surprised about was Jag.

10-31-2009, 01:47 PM	#1468
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Unfortunately I didn't think it through before voting today. We still would have a slim chance if that were the case (if we didn't hit on the brutal). I apologize for my kneejerk reaction. Obviously the wolves also didn't realize that rule either or they would have taken out a villager for the win last night. Looking at it that way I would rather it end this way instead of with us making a miraculous comeback after last night as it's not like we understood the rule and they didn't. Since we both misunderstood the rule it ends up being a wash with how the game ended.

10-31-2009, 01:50 PM	#1469
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I wish that I had gone with my original take on RA and stayed with the theory that if Abe was bad RA was good. I would have been lobbying more and more for him to not be lynched if that were the case. I also wish I didn't let the whole JAG is a wolf mantra talk me into it. I really didn't have him high on my suspect list but after hearing so many people say that he must be a wolf I just kind of believed it. Then when he was on the block and didn't seem to be fighting back I read it as a wolf who had given up. Oh well, back to RL: Congrats again JAG!!!

10-31-2009, 04:29 PM	#1477
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Good game Schmidty. Thanks for running it.

10-31-2009, 04:29 PM	#1478
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	CW was brutal I am guessing.

10-31-2009, 04:36 PM	#1480
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I would have guessed CW since he was the one being pushed for votes a few times. Well done wolves.

10-31-2009, 05:00 PM	#1482
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Yay Wolves! __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-31-2009, 06:29 PM	#1486
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Nicely played guys!

10-31-2009, 07:26 PM	#1487
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	CR/CW, Do you think I was the cultist? __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

10-31-2009, 09:53 PM	#1489
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Nope. For a short while, we halfway thought hoops mighta been the cultist. He was the only real suspect there.

10-31-2009, 11:36 PM	#1490
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Sorry I was so terrible as the seer. I almost didnt scan abe night 1, which would have changed things, but my orders got sent in at 9:00 rather than 8:59

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