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Well there is the percentages of incidents issue that makes the NBA look worse by comparison. By the same token, I don't hold a lot of the NFL in particularly high regard either, so none of that is particularly surprising either.
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Some events are perceived as out of character for their league and some events are perceived as being in character for their league. McSorley's incident was out of character for anybody.
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I've heard many argue, and I think it's possible they're on to something, that much of why the NBA has the "Thug" image is because they don't have pads, helmets, hats, long pants, etc to cover up the tattoos, facial hair, mean scowls, etc that the other sports do. In the NBA you "see" the players more than any of the other major sports - and many people don't like what they "see".
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Yes there is the helmet thing. There is also the coach strangulation and fan pummeling thing. Guess you can add the pull gun on teammate in locker room thing to the list now.
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Whether or not this is true or not. It doesnt help with the public imagine of the NBA. Gambling and guns. Throw in a an once of weed and them two hit the trifecta.
I'm not a huge fan of the "hands on" approach but the commish has to figure out a way to clean up the league. For every Tim Ducan and Lebron James there are too many Gilbert Arenas and Stephen Jackson types that bring down what the good guys are doing. On the other hand like Kali pointed out even in golf and Nascar these days we have some type of scandals. |
01-02-2010, 09:29 AM | #56 |
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01-02-2010, 03:45 PM | #58 |
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From Shelden Williams Twitter page(btw, this site is awesome http://www.twitter-athletes.com):
SheldenWilliams I understand javaris situation I mean gilbert owed him 150 thousand dollars that affects his life way more than gilberts |
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150k?? damn!
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01-02-2010, 03:55 PM | #60 |
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yeah heh I mean Shelden Williams isn't necessarily a reliable source but I still find the gambling aspect of this more interesting than the fact that two NBA players have guns and are capable of doing some incredibly stupid things.
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01-02-2010, 06:35 PM | #61 |
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Eh. Hopefully Shelden cleared that one with the wife first. As Mr Candace Parker he should keep himself out of stuff.
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I wonder if they will claim the Pete Rose defense on the gambling...
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Depends on the type of gambling. If it's on games, then it's a big issue. But I already assume that most athletes gamble on cards or other things. It's just what happens when young, wealthy men with a lot of downtime do.
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If someone makes a bet and doesn't pay up I really don't care what the bet was on. I'm not talking about the NBA or any sort of policy on gambling, I'm talking about the fact that if Gilbert Arenas is trying to get out of paying up some sort of prop bet with Javaris Crittendon then he is pretty much fucking scum and may not deserve to be shot but a good beating is in order. |
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It would be hilarious if this was a fantasy football payout dispute based on the Kurt Warner scoring change
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There is a good lesson for children here.
Don't gamble with crazy people.
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I don't have a link handy. Basically gilbert supposedly bailed on a card game that he didn't like the rules of. Jarvis got stuck paying a big pot. Arenas alledgedly taunted that he was going to set the guys car on fire. Jarvis threatened to shoot him in the bad knee. Apparently after a practice Arenas set out 4 guns by the dudes locker with a sign that said. "pick one". And tempers flared.
I will find a link later. Sounds like it was relatively no big deal. Last edited by stevew : 01-03-2010 at 03:56 PM. Reason: cleaned up some |
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Hmm, okay, what little I can understand of this, sounds like a pretty big damn deal to me. I'm sifting through what you have here, stevew, so correct me if I have it wrong. 1. Agent Zero is about to lose a game because of a rule he doesn't like, so he jumps. 2. JCritt is left holding the bag and has to pay the pot. 3. I'm a little fuzzy what you're saying here--Arenas threatened to set who's car on fire? Crittenton's? Or the guy who won? If it was JCritt's, was it because Crittenton was demanding he pay? Or, later on, is JCritt mad because Arenas said the car thing and the guy who won is a friend of Crittenton's? 4. Jarvis threatened to shoot him in the bad knee. Okay easy enough to understand, although if I were him and had that mindset, I would have threatened to shoot him in the good knee. 5. Who the hell is seerbas? 6. Assuming seerbas is connected to either JCritt or Arenas, which is it? Regardless, guns being set out after a gun threat is made, along with a message that says "pick one" is about as fucked up as it gets. No idea how that's not a big deal.
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I always thought Arenas was one of the "good guys" in the NBA, but I may have been completely off base. In any case, he makes almost 50x the amount of money Crittendon does over the length of their comparitive contracts. If any of this is true he's pretty clearly in the giant D-bag category now.
Assuming everything does go down as above and the NBA can prove it, what are the suspensions? 2 players pulling weapons on each other on NBA property in DC with the crazy gun laws, on top of the 150k gambling debts being run up has to be pretty unprecidented, no? |
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hxxp://www.mikejonessports.com/2010/01/startling-picture-starting-to-become.html
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I thought this part of the conversation was over with.
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SEERBAS!
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And "not a big deal" meaning it was merely horseplay involving probably unloaded weapons, instead of a full on loaded guns pointed at each other showdown.
Probably a bad choice of words, on my part. Obviously it's serious, as you should never joke around with guns. But it wasn't an alledgedly full on John Woo showdown like it was initially described. Last edited by stevew : 01-03-2010 at 04:09 PM. |
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There is absolutely no way Grunfeld is only in a "wait and see mode." If he has any chance to void that contract, he'll do it.
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Yup, thanks. Sorry if I came off wrong, but, honestly, I couldn't make heads or tails of it how you wrote it.
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I still find the amusing part not the reported conflict but the fact that Arenas had 4 guns readily available to him at the Verizon Center.
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Yup, I'm sure the Wizards would absolutely love to void Arena's contract if they could, no question about that at all IMO.
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Arenas is charged with felony gun possession.
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They'll make an example out of him. Guy is a moron. Wizards owner is throwing a huge party.
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Actually local media reports indicate he'll likely be able to cop a plea bargain with no jail time.
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Gilbert Arenas of Washington Wizards sentenced to 1 month in halfway house - ESPN
So Gilbert stays out of jail.
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