Why isn't there a racing text sim?

DanGarion · 04-22-2010, 10:11 AM

I know this has been thrown around in the past but recently this has started to bug me. Of all the sports that there isn't a text sim of, racing of some sort (F1, Nascar, etc) seems like it would be one that could really be special. Everything from having racing teams to even a multiplayer leagues it's seems like it could be a really kick ass type of game.

I know there was someone working on a racing sim at one time anyone know what the status is on that?

JonInMiddleGA · 04-22-2010, 10:26 AM

Too hard to do well enough to suit the most passionate fans, not enough interest among casual gamers who would be satisifed with less, too fragmented a marketplace globally vs the US, and I've long suspected a significant shortage of developers who understand it well enough to even begin to do it justice.

Marc Vaughan · 04-22-2010, 11:36 AM

One of the main reasons there isn't one is simply the cost of the licences involved (at least for F1, no idea about NASCAR).

There was one called F1CM in development independantly for ages (I think its still 'going' but under a new name now) - looked promising but I don't think they ever managed to released it because of the licencing issues.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 04-22-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

One of the main reasons there isn't one is simply the cost of the licences involved (at least for F1, no idea about NASCAR).

There was one called F1CM in development independantly for ages (I think its still 'going' but under a new name now) - looked promising but I don't think they ever managed to released it because of the licencing issues.

But can't you create a generic game that allows for import/editing? Or is that not allowed. I don't think that many text sim people would frown on that.

Marc Vaughan · 04-22-2010, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

But can't you create a generic game that allows for import/editing? Or is that not allowed. I don't think that many text sim people would frown on that.

Someone could probably .... but it'd be a 'niche' game if created in that manner ... a LOT of users like seeing the real data without having to expend 'real' effort to get it

lordscarlet · 04-22-2010, 12:32 PM

NASCAR loves to throw around cease and desists. I have a friend that runs http://nnracing.com that has gotten two (one of which required him to change his domain name)

CU Tiger · 04-23-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Someone could probably .... but it'd be a 'niche' game if created in that manner ... a LOT of users like seeing the real data without having to expend 'real' effort to get it

kinda like FOF?

Dutch · 04-23-2010, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

kinda like FOF?

No, people want to expend a lot of energy modding FOF, but have no friggin' clue how to.

MIJB#19 · 04-23-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Someone could probably .... but it'd be a 'niche' game if created in that manner ... a LOT of users like seeing the real data without having to expend 'real' effort to get it

It's less than 30 drivers and 15ish team names...

Unless you go deeper with engine names, tyre names, manager names, etc.

wade moore · 04-23-2010, 11:26 AM

I think the activity of this thread should give you a hint to your answer.

DanGarion · 04-23-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I think the activity of this thread should give you a hint to your answer.

nilodor · 04-23-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

There was one called F1CM in development independantly for ages (I think its still 'going' but under a new name now) - looked promising but I don't think they ever managed to released it because of the licencing issues.

It's called Grand Prix Racing Manager now (gprm.co.uk) and they're in Beta stages right now. They made the teams and drivers generic to get around the licensing stuff. Not sure which season of F1 they are going by as far as the rules are concerned but it may actually get done one of these days!

Icy · 04-23-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nilodor

It's called Grand Prix Racing Manager now (gprm.co.uk) and they're in Beta stages right now. They made the teams and drivers generic to get around the licensing stuff. Not sure which season of F1 they are going by as far as the rules are concerned but it may actually get done one of these days!

They have been in beta for like 6 years or more so i have lost my hope.

I really enjoyed F1 Grand Prix Manager 1 and 2 like 10 years ago, despite the bugs, and for sure would buy a new F1 sim if developed.

whomario · 04-23-2010, 02:30 PM

Grand Prix Manager 2 was really a fun little game, it´s freeware by now too : Download Grand Prix Manager 2 | Abandonia

upon looking it up again also found that there is a 2009 Mod available : Downloads « GPM2World

whomario · 04-23-2010, 02:47 PM

scratch that, you can apparently load any of the mods and play it on it´s own (no need to load the base game first)

direct link to 2009 : http://www.gpm2world.com/?file_id=41

really loved that game back in the day, this and (on the self-driving side of things) the Grand Prix series . Played the heck out of GP2 as a kid, driving whole real time races and everything.
On the verge of reinstalling it right now ...

Dutch · 04-23-2010, 03:02 PM

I would buy a racing sim game in a heartbeat...

DanGarion · 04-23-2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

I would buy a racing sim game in a heartbeat...

+1

I. J. Reilly · 04-23-2010, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario

scratch that, you can apparently load any of the mods and play it on it´s own (no need to load the base game first)

direct link to 2009 : http://www.gpm2world.com/?file_id=41

really loved that game back in the day, this and (on the self-driving side of things) the Grand Prix series . Played the heck out of GP2 as a kid, driving whole real time races and everything.
On the verge of reinstalling it right now ...

Never played GP2, but played the hell out of the first one. I bet if I fired it up now I could still hit every braking and turn in point for all the courses.

Mac Howard · 04-23-2010, 06:47 PM

There are a few "manager" games amongst this lot:

List of Formula One video games - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CU Tiger · 04-23-2010, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

No, people want to expend a lot of energy modding FOF, but have no friggin' clue how to.

My point is FOF ships with the St Luois Monarchs as a team.
just as easily as you oul have a Hick Jendrix racing with Daddy Wasagreatdriver Jr. driving one of his cars....

Dutch · 04-24-2010, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

My point is FOF ships with the St Luois Monarchs as a team.
just as easily as you oul have a Hick Jendrix racing with Daddy Wasagreatdriver Jr. driving one of his cars....

Oh I gotcha. I was barking at FOF for not having more custamahzation options.

OldGiants · 04-24-2010, 10:44 AM

Wouldn't a NASCAR text sim require NASCAR fans to learn what those texty ciphers mean?

DanGarion · 04-24-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OldGiants

Wouldn't a NASCAR text sim require NASCAR fans to learn what those texty ciphers mean?

Hah, that's almost funny...

Tim Tellean · 04-25-2010, 11:40 AM

Hey I know its not a sim but Trackmania has the complete Trackmania Nations Forever for free d/l.
hxxp://www.trackmania.com/

Tim Tellean · 04-26-2010, 10:02 AM

New F1 racing game due September 2010 for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and Games for Windows.
hxxp://www.formula1-game.com/

FrogMan · 05-06-2010, 11:42 AM

I have no clue how good it is, but a racing team management sim called Pole Position 2010 that is now available on Impulse:
http://www.impulsedriven.com/position2010

They're even running a sale, 15% off for the weekend, on sale at $16.99.

FM

DanGarion · 05-06-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FrogMan

I have no clue how good it is, but a racing team management sim called Pole Position 2010 that is now available on Impulse:
http://www.impulsedriven.com/position2010

They're even running a sale, 15% off for the weekend, on sale at $16.99.

FM

17 bucks, worth a check out.

MacroGuru · 05-06-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

17 bucks, worth a check out.

I know it's only 17 bucks...but let me know how it is....

RendeR · 05-06-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Tellean

Hey I know its not a sim but Trackmania has the complete Trackmania Nations Forever for free d/l.
hxxp://www.trackmania.com/

This would be a blast if we could get someone here at FOFC to host a server. Then we could race against one another.

I enjoy it regularly anyway, but I don't kno0w anyone I'm racing against.

FrogMan · 06-24-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FrogMan

I have no clue how good it is, but a racing team management sim called Pole Position 2010 that is now available on Impulse:
http://www.impulsedriven.com/position2010

They're even running a sale, 15% off for the weekend, on sale at $16.99.

FM

don't know if anyone ever tried the game, but Impulse has it at 50% off this weekend, or for sale at $9.99.

FM

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04-22-2010, 11:36 AM	#3
Marc Vaughan SI Games Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL	One of the main reasons there isn't one is simply the cost of the licences involved (at least for F1, no idea about NASCAR). There was one called F1CM in development independantly for ages (I think its still 'going' but under a new name now) - looked promising but I don't think they ever managed to released it because of the licencing issues.

04-23-2010, 02:30 PM	#14
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Grand Prix Manager 2 was really a fun little game, it´s freeware by now too : Download Grand Prix Manager 2 \| Abandonia upon looking it up again also found that there is a 2009 Mod available : Downloads « GPM2World

04-23-2010, 02:47 PM	#15
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	scratch that, you can apparently load any of the mods and play it on it´s own (no need to load the base game first) direct link to 2009 : http://www.gpm2world.com/?file_id=41 really loved that game back in the day, this and (on the self-driving side of things) the Grand Prix series . Played the heck out of GP2 as a kid, driving whole real time races and everything. On the verge of reinstalling it right now ...

04-23-2010, 03:02 PM	#16
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	I would buy a racing sim game in a heartbeat...

04-23-2010, 06:47 PM	#19
Mac Howard Sick as a Parrot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Surfers Paradise, Australia	There are a few "manager" games amongst this lot: List of Formula One video games - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

04-25-2010, 11:40 AM	#24
Tim Tellean High School JV Join Date: Dec 2005	Hey I know its not a sim but Trackmania has the complete Trackmania Nations Forever for free d/l. hxxp://www.trackmania.com/

04-26-2010, 10:02 AM	#25
Tim Tellean High School JV Join Date: Dec 2005	New F1 racing game due September 2010 for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and Games for Windows. hxxp://www.formula1-game.com/

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