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Old 07-19-2010, 12:15 PM   #1
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Lou Brown we hardley knew ye

Actor James Gammon dies at age 70 - USATODAY.com

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Old 07-19-2010, 12:18 PM   #2
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Old 07-19-2010, 12:18 PM   #3
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Old 07-19-2010, 12:20 PM   #4
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"I'm offering you a chance to manage in the bigs!"

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Old 07-19-2010, 12:21 PM   #5
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Faster, but less accurate
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Old 07-19-2010, 12:22 PM   #6
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Nice catch Hayes, don't ever fuckin do it again.
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Old 07-19-2010, 12:25 PM   #7
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Better manager...Lou Brown or Pop Fisher?
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Old 07-19-2010, 12:29 PM   #8
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Better manager...Lou Brown or Pop Fisher?

I dunno, hard to say. Pop was much older and on the verge of retirement as it was.

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Old 07-19-2010, 12:31 PM   #9
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I love Pop, but he clearly had more to work with than Lou.
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Old 07-19-2010, 12:50 PM   #10
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Damn. One heck of a good character actor. Loved the grainy voice of his.
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Old 07-19-2010, 01:04 PM   #11
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I listened to the commentary for the Major League DVD and the director said he wrote the role specifically with James Gammon in mind.
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:05 PM   #12
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Looks like a Cabin Boy/Major League kind of night.
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:10 PM   #13
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Better manager...Lou Brown or Pop Fisher?

Definitely Lou Brown. Pop Fisher was basically impotent as a manager, hence the Fisher King reference of the name. He had to be saved by others, where Lou Brown guided Rick Vaughn and company.
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:16 PM   #14
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Forget about the curveball Ricky, give 'em the heater!
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:53 PM   #15
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If I could draw, the editorial cartoon for this would be a couple of angels standing with arms crossed, watching Gammon passing a line of anonymous souls. One leans over: "Get him a uniform."
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:58 PM   #16
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Old 07-20-2010, 02:05 PM   #17
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Pop Fisher was basically impotent as a manager, hence the Fisher King reference of the name. He had to be saved by others, where Lou Brown guided Rick Vaughn and company.

Blasphemy. You try managing a team owned by the Judge that's stocked with players who can't field a ground ball. Not to mention the fact that his own daughter was bad luck incarnate. It's like Red said...

"Let me tell you something about Pop. He gave his heart and soul to the game...only to get it trampled on. I'd give my right arm to get him the pennant"
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Old 07-20-2010, 05:30 PM   #18
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Pops' grudge with the Judge led him to bar Hobbs from even practicing with the team at first; if he doesn't do that, Hobbs gets in sooner and the Knights don't even need a playoff to win the pennant. And don't get me started about the Knights dropping 3 at the end of the season when they had it all seemingly sewn up.

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Old 07-20-2010, 05:40 PM   #19
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Hey hey, I'm not saying Pop was better, I'm just saying he wasn't completely incompetent as suggested in the earlier post.
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:27 AM   #20
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Hey hey, I'm not saying Pop was better, I'm just saying he wasn't completely incompetent as suggested in the earlier post.

OK. I'll give you 'not completely incompetent.' Only mostly so. Is there anyone out there that doesn't think the Knights are headed right back to last place with Hobbs's retirement?
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:26 AM   #21
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All right people, we got 10 minutes 'till game time, let's all gather 'round. I'm not much for giving inspirational addresses, but I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves. Me, I'm for wasting sportswriters' time. So I figured we ought to hang around for a while and see if we can give 'em all a nice big shitburger to eat!

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Old 07-21-2010, 12:55 PM   #22
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OK. I'll give you 'not completely incompetent.' Only mostly so. Is there anyone out there that doesn't think the Knights are headed right back to last place with Hobbs's retirement?

I agree that they may drop back into last place...maybe. Lets not forget that Roy Hobbs brought some certifiable magic to the team with the lightning bolt patch. I feel like a lot of people have forgotten the first 45 mins of the movie. It's like watching the goddamn Bad News Bears out there, terrible. They needed a shot in the arm (and apparently an act from god) and got it. Other than Bump Bailey, who is the right field equivalent of Terrell Owens, the team was filled with wash-ups and never-were's.

They were both good skippers, but they obviously had much different coaching styles. Lets not forget that The Natural was a very supernatural film, focusing on the magic and mystique of the game. Whereas Major League was a film about a band of misfits (who could actually play pretty damn well) that just needed a coach that could contain their outrageous attitudes.
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