Any good men left?

[Galaxy]

Where Have the Good Men Gone? - WSJ.com

[jeff061]

Lesbian needs to get out of closet.

[Radii]

If I'd written a sweeping generalization piece right after i got divorced and was at my worst, it would have been entitled "Why are all women lying bitches?" I wonder if the Wall Street Journal would have posted that? This doesn't seem a whole lot different does it?


Also, it sounds like there's no discrimination against women anymore according to this lady. they're smarter and make more because all us guys are so damn juvenile. I don't wanna hear any more shit from you women about a glass ceiling anymore, its us guys getting the shaft now!

[JonInMiddleGA]

In fairness, they also printed what looks like a companion piece
Two Cheers for the Maligned Slacker Dude - WSJ.com

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by jeff061

Lesbian needs to get out of closet.

Looked her up. 3 kids and a husband.

[SteveMax58]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Looked her up. 3 kids and a husband.

She must have a walk-in.

[SteveMax58]

I think Mike Gundy had the most profound thoughts on the subject.

[jeff061]

Must really suck to be married to a closeted lesbian that rants about men on the internet .

[Noop]

Any good women left?

[RainMaker]

Boohoo! Men won't fit into the narrow stereotype movies taught me they would when I grew up. Shame on men for being independent and enjoying their life.

[fantom1979]

Most women I know are Target obsessed and still love going to clubs and bars on the weekends. In my opinion, both sexes have this "pre-adulthood", not just men.

I guess we could go back to the days where I knock some girl up in high school and marry her. Those were the good days.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by fantom1979

Most women I know are Target obsessed and still love going to clubs and bars on the weekends. In my opinion, both sexes have this "pre-adulthood", not just men.

I guess we could go back to the days where I knock some girl up in high school and marry her. Those were the good days.

+1

[ISiddiqui]

To be honest, she has a point. I know too many 20somethings who are basically big kids.

[flounder]

Originally Posted by SteveMax58

I think Mike Gundy had the most profound thoughts on the subject.

That's why I don't read the newspaper. Because it's garbage.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Boohoo! Men won't fit into the narrow stereotype movies taught me they would when I grew up. Shame on men for being independent and enjoying their life.

+1

Typically the women who complain that men shouldn't expect them, or women in general, to act like women in porn, are the same who expect to sleep in every weekend, have rose petals on the stairs, and whatever other goofy shit they learn in "their" movies.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

if your cunt-meter doesn't peg to 12 when you look at that bitch's picture there's something wrong with you. i could just quote tyler durden but-

at 34, there is nothing about the 'american dream' that entices me. the whole wife-kids-suburbs-upstanding citizen act is a trap. i've seen enough long faces of the men in that position to know it.

life is about passion. it's about what gets you out of bed in the morning and what you dream about at night. everything else just gets in the way.

if it's your kids, great. if it's your band, super. if it's video games, knock yourself out.

what it's not is a nagging cunt that wants you to forget your passion and your dreams and be a 'real man'

a soulless, vapid, wife doting shell of a man.

[lungs]

The saying about my family is that none of the men ever make anything of themselves until they are 30 and I'm no exception (28 but on my way). Everybody is different. Some men are well ready to settle down at 20 and are content to lead their lives from there while some others are never content to do that.

Now on the other hand, men like myself that choose not to settle down into a traditional American family role while in their twenties should also have a responsibility not to go around having children that we are not willing to raise and nurture. And sending a child support check every week does not qualify as raise and nurture though it's better than some do.

[tarcone]

I was 31 and my wife was 24 when we married. Works for both of us. I got to play for a decade. She didnt know me or any of the stupid stuff I did. And I got to marry a women 7 years younger. Double bonus.

[mckerney]

What Mr. Klausner means by "chicks" is females who are not girls or women but something in between. "Chicks talk about 'High School Musical' like it's not a movie made for people half their age; a chick's idea of a perfect night is a hang around the television watching 'The Bachelor' with her old dance team, or a night out clubbing with her college friends.

Oooh, MadLibs are fun!

tl;dr plenty of twenty something women are just as immature as 'guys.'

[sterlingice]

I'm a bit offended by the term pre-adults. Then again, I also thought it was silly that we considered 18 year olds adults for some purposes and pretty much by 21 had reached it for all.

But, uh, the bigger question: why the hell is the Wall Street Journal doing this story? This is more the type of story I expect to see as a Time magazine cover piece sandwiched between the issue on "Why are our kids fat?" and "Cell phones: Horrible threat or Useful time saver". Tho, considering how poorly written it is- it's not even good enough for them. But I do recognize the style of "a few vague statistics badly linked together with no scientific rigor to say what you want them to because it makes a compelling narrative to whoever you want to sell stuff to this week".

SI

[terpkristin]

Didn't read the article, but I gotta say, not having found my "one" in college, I find it really hard to find guys that I have enough in common with to think we'd date.

I realize that I'm going to have to get on match or something, but until I feel better physically, the last thing I want to do is date.

/tk

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by mckerney

tl;dr plenty of twenty something women are just as immature as 'guys.'

Two words: twilight moms

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by tarcone

I was 31 and my wife was 24 when we married. Works for both of us. I got to play for a decade. She didnt know me or any of the stupid stuff I did. And I got to marry a women 7 years younger. Double bonus.

Hi Five for us studs that marry younger women!

*hifive*

[tarcone]

*hifive*

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by tarcone

I was 31 and my wife was 24 when we married. Works for both of us. I got to play for a decade. She didnt know me or any of the stupid stuff I did. And I got to marry a women 7 years younger. Double bonus.

Did you have any issues with the age gap? I'm actually 31 right now and dating someone who is 24. It's not serious, but I wonder if it did if there would be some obstacles. I know it's not a huge gap, but I sort of feel weird sometimes about it. Or is this pretty well accepted everywhere.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

I'm a bit offended by the term pre-adults. Then again, I also thought it was silly that we considered 18 year olds adults for some purposes and pretty much by 21 had reached it for all.

But, uh, the bigger question: why the hell is the Wall Street Journal doing this story? This is more the type of story I expect to see as a Time magazine cover piece sandwiched between the issue on "Why are our kids fat?" and "Cell phones: Horrible threat or Useful time saver". Tho, considering how poorly written it is- it's not even good enough for them. But I do recognize the style of "a few vague statistics badly linked together with no scientific rigor to say what you want them to because it makes a compelling narrative to whoever you want to sell stuff to this week".

SI

Wall Street Journal has really gotten into these stories since Murdock bought it.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by terpkristin

Didn't read the article, but I gotta say, not having found my "one" in college, I find it really hard to find guys that I have enough in common with to think we'd date.

I realize that I'm going to have to get on match or something, but until I feel better physically, the last thing I want to do is date.

/tk

Match is still a tough minefield.

[terpkristin]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Match is still a tough minefield.

Oh, I am completely not looking forward to it. But truthfully, I'm not finding anybody in any other aspects of my life and dammit, I'm tired of being single.

/tk

[digamma]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

But, uh, the bigger question: why the hell is the Wall Street Journal doing this story? This is more the type of story I expect to see as a Time magazine cover piece sandwiched between the issue on "Why are our kids fat?" and "Cell phones: Horrible threat or Useful time saver". Tho, considering how poorly written it is- it's not even good enough for them. But I do recognize the style of "a few vague statistics badly linked together with no scientific rigor to say what you want them to because it makes a compelling narrative to whoever you want to sell stuff to this week".

SI

To be fair, this was in the WSJ Weekend edition, which is a much lighter format than the standard weekday journal. (I can't comment on the writing as I didn't read the piece.)

[sabotai]

I hope to stay a pre-adult forever. Fuck being an adult. Being an adult is no fun. I'll keep doing what I want, not get married* and save the half million it costs to raise each child (or however much it costs to raise a kid from 0-18).


(*I can see myself getting married, but only to someone that has the same outlook on life as I do (read: No Kids!!!!))

[Sgran]

the article wasn't as bad as I expected. If she had left out the condescending eye-rolling then it would have worked better. May have even been the editor.

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Did you have any issues with the age gap? I'm actually 31 right now and dating someone who is 24. It's not serious, but I wonder if it did if there would be some obstacles. I know it's not a huge gap, but I sort of feel weird sometimes about it. Or is this pretty well accepted everywhere.

No issues. And its accepted. At this age, the gap isnt that big. It was a great decision by me for sure.

[Shepp]

Originally Posted by fantom1979

Most women I know are Target obsessed and still love going to clubs and bars on the weekends. In my opinion, both sexes have this "pre-adulthood", not just men.

Back when I was in my 20's a lot of the women I met fell into this category. When I did meet one that seemed to have potential she was either psychologically broken or was holding out for a sugar daddy and didn't want anything to with my non-six figure salary makin self.

[jeff061]

I'm holding out for the psychologically broken but hot woman. That should be a good match.

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Did you have any issues with the age gap? I'm actually 31 right now and dating someone who is 24. It's not serious, but I wonder if it did if there would be some obstacles. I know it's not a huge gap, but I sort of feel weird sometimes about it. Or is this pretty well accepted everywhere.

The biggest issues I ever run into are the times I mention a show or movie and she looks at me like I'm crazy, there is a little gap in pop culture. Other than that we haven't really had any issues.

[Galaxy]

Another thought from the Huffington Post:

Tracy McMillan: Why You're Not Married

[Shepp]

Originally Posted by jeff061

I'm holding out for the psychologically broken but hot woman. That should be a good match.

The two usually go hand in hand. It seemed that over time their level of crazy went up or my ability to deal with it went down I don't know which.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Another thought from the Huffington Post:

Tracy McMillan: Why You're Not Married

Heh. That's a serious, not-so-subtle man-hating article. (I need to find a way to use more hyphens in that sentence. Please PM me with suggestions.)

Female anger terrifies men. I know it seems unfair that you have to work around a man's fear and insecurity in order to get married -- but actually, it's perfect, since working around a man's fear and insecurity is big part of what you'll be doing as a wife.

Someone should tell women that we're not really afraid of their anger. We don't like their anger because when they get angry, we don't really want to fuck them. They're ugly when they're angry. And if we don't want to fuck them, what the hell good are they?

I mean, unless they're making sandwiches. You can be angry and make sandwiches, and then I've got a goddamned use for you. But too many angry women won't make sandwiches. Like they're above it or something. When men get angry, they tell us to go for a run, hit the heavy bag, do something constructive. Work it off, boy. Which we do. So when women get angry, instead of bitching and griping, get in the kitchen and make a goddamned sandwich. That's all I'm saying. It'll be good for you.

Misdirected anger is the big problem with women, imho. Aimless bitching when they could be making sandwiches is an inefficient use of energy.

You know why women are miserable in their relationships? Because they read shit like this that attempts to infantilize men or treat us like something to be "managed" rather than respected as discrete human beings with our own wants, needs and desires in a relationship.

[cthomer5000]

I can't think of more than a handful of people whose company I actually enjoy. Regardless of sex.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

But, uh, the bigger question: why the hell is the Wall Street Journal doing this story? This is more the type of story I expect to see as a Time magazine cover piece sandwiched between the issue on "Why are our kids fat?" and "Cell phones: Horrible threat or Useful time saver".

Trampolines. Child's plaything? Or EXTREMELY vicious backyard killer? You decide. Here's Melissa Tompkin.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Drake

And if we don't want to fuck them, what the hell good are they?

Yeah, well, vice-versa ain't no party either.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by jeff061

I'm holding out for the psychologically broken but hot woman. That should be a good match.

[Sgran]

One sleepless night with a crazy bitch is manageable. I guarantee that by the second you are readdressing your priorities.

[JediKooter]

The only certain thing about women is the uncertainty.

[Rizon]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Another thought from the Huffington Post:

Tracy McMillan: Why You're Not Married

She pretty much nailed it.

It would be nice to send this to some of my wife's friends, whose lives seem to revolve around the next party. They always bitch about how they want to settle down but can't find the right man, though next thing you know they're at the club hanging all over some douchebag (who ends up never calling her back). And they can't figure it out.

[Drake]

(It's because they don't make sandwiches.)

[Rizon]

Originally Posted by Drake

(It's because they don't make sandwiches.)

EXACTLY.

If they'd spend a little more time practicing making a PB&J and less time dancing to Lady Keesha and J-Diddy they might have a man. But the only thing they're spreading right now is their legs.

[Mustang]

I'm disappointed the writer didn't use Paula Cole lyrics for reference points.

[Dr. Sak]

In the last year, I can't tell you how many women I have gone out with who cant cook and are amazed and happy that I can cook. It is like I know some sort of black magic.

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

In the last year, I can't tell you how many women I have gone out with who cant cook and are amazed and happy that I can cook. It is like I know some sort of black magic.

.