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Old 10-02-2003, 04:58 PM   #101
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Anyone else think maybe this "drug" thing was about to break, the mouse got wind, and said drop him... now they just had a semi-valid excuse? (i.e. Rick Neuhisel office pool or Dan Issel(?) saying the not even offensive Mexican remark)
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Old 10-02-2003, 05:00 PM   #102
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Anyone else think maybe this "drug" thing was about to break, the mouse got wind, and said drop him... now they just had a semi-valid excuse?
I wondered about that myself...
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Old 10-02-2003, 05:11 PM   #103
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This is the best post in this thread. The "racial" part of the statement, "The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well." is a no-brainer, folks. Higher-performing white people get extra attention in basketball, boxing, and in positions such as CB in the NFL.

Exactly. Whites in predominently black sports are said to be overhyped (and perhaps are). Jason Sehorn is definetly one of the people that some say is overhyped because of his race (Hell, his nickname was 'The Great White Hope' for a while). Limbaugh just turned it around.
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Old 10-02-2003, 05:23 PM   #104
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Bottom line - he may be a football fan, but so are a lot of other people who have no business being on a TV talking about it. He should have just politely declined the invite, or made it his goal to talk football and not bring politics into it at all. He could have still been controversial, if that's what he wanted, based strictly on football issues.

Brilliant point. I listen to Rush's radio show when I want politics and social comment. I watch ESPN when I want sports info. No matter how good the 2 may be by themselves, I don't ever want to dip my Politics Chocolate into my Sports Peanutbutter.

If he just would have stayed on topic (i.e. football) everything would have been fine. For those of you that can't see past your hatred of him, Rush has a keen intellect for analysis. He should have just analysed this comment a little more and realised that most people would misunderstand this comment because of the instant cry of RACIST when I white mentions the word "Black" in a sentence.
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Old 10-02-2003, 05:32 PM   #105
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Anyone else think maybe this "drug" thing was about to break, the mouse got wind, and said drop him... now they just had a semi-valid excuse? (i.e. Rick Neuhisel office pool or Dan Issel(?) saying the not even offensive Mexican remark)

I highly doubt it. If this drug thing turns out to be true, they should just use the same policy as the NFL - give him a raise. Disney prides itself on its acceptance of alternate lifestyles, you would think this would have looked good to them. No, I highly doubt the drug thing would even matter to them a bit.

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Old 10-02-2003, 06:03 PM   #106
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Well for one thing, here is the entire quote:

"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well,'' Limbaugh said. "There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."

Is it out of the realms of reality that Rush was referring to the successful couple of years Philly has had? If not why would he be giving him credit for the the performance of his team when they had been blown out for 2 straight games. So either:

A)he is getting too much credit for getting blown out this year or

B)he is getting too much credit for his team's past success.

I'm betting on B. Just a hunch.

By the way for those who still hold firm that he is talking just about those two games only, Tampa Bay has made it a habit of late to make any quarterback they face look bad. Does this shock anyone?

So who or what is investing hope in McNabb? I am going to take a wild guess but I'm thinking the media. Just a hunch.

So why is the media investing hope in McNabb? Rush without point blank telling you says it is because he is black. Now where in the hell did I get this from? I know I know it's completely made up.

He links the media to giving McNabb too much credit for his team's success because he is black and the defense carried the team. Not because he is just an overrated quarterback with a good defense. No, it seemed to be important to Rush to point out that there is a social concern in the NFL which is that a black quarterback do well. The media has given him all this credit which he didn't deserve because he is black which is the media's social concern.

I don't personally think he is a racist, just an idiot. Apparently, New Orleans, Dallas, Minnesota, Arizona and Tennessee didn't get the memo to hype their black quarterbacks. Must have gotten lost in the mail or something.

Finally give the quote the litmus test. Take the word black out of it.

Rush buried himself.
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Old 10-02-2003, 06:07 PM   #107
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Disney prides itself on its acceptance of alternate lifestyles, you would think this would have looked good to them.


What? Are you being serious? Don't bring up their allowance of a "Gay Day" at some theme parks as your only evidence of this claim. After all, it is not officially sanctioned as "Gay Day" anyway.
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Old 10-03-2003, 01:30 AM   #108
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I'm sorry, but that's some of the biggest load of crap I have ever read on this board.

A racist is a racist. It isn't justified in any circumstances, no matter who the racist is or the color of his skin.

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I think its more acceptable for black people to say rasict things. Just my opinion.
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Old 10-03-2003, 02:10 AM   #109
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I never understood the rationale of blacks being able to call themselves niggers and cower if another person does.

I was brought up being called a cripple was pretty much equal to all those other ephitats. That word makes me angry, instead I'm physically and vertically challenged. Somehow it's ok for other handicapped people to call other disabled people cripples or crips, but faint whent Aunt Gertie screws up at the family reunion "Poor Mary, how's her crippled boy?" Wrong.


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"Oh, my god, did you hear what he said? Are there any niggers here tonight? Is that rank! Is that cruel! Is that a cheap way to get laughs? Well, I think I see a nigger at the bar talking to two guinea owners and next to them....Now why have I done this? Is it only for shock value? Well, if all the niggers started calling each other nigger, not only among themselves, which they do anyway, but among others. If President Kennedy got on television and said:'I'm considering appointing two or three of the top niggers in the country to my cabinet'-if it was nothing but nigger, nigger, nigger- in six months nigger wouldn't mean any more than good night, god bless you...-when that beautiful day comes, you'll never see another nigger kid come home from school crying because some motherfucker called him a nigger."
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Just an alternative prospective. He did this bit a lot and most of the times it was far more indepth and meaningful but this is the one I found by googling.

Don't think we'll ever get to that point though, not in the current climate. We've gone the exact opposite direction and the word is still as hateful and charged as ever.
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Old 10-03-2003, 05:42 AM   #110
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I think its more acceptable for black people to say rasict things. Just my opinion.


Why? Are you a big fan of the double standard?
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Old 10-03-2003, 10:51 AM   #111
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"Are There Any Niggers Here Tonight?"
[snipped out all the other stuff]
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Lenny Bruce was a funny man. He supplied one of my wife's favorite remarks :

"If Jesus had been killed twenty years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little electric chairs around their necks instead of crosses."
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Old 10-03-2003, 02:47 PM   #112
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Well, apparently we now know what the "discomfort among the crew" was: apparently Tom Jackson was going to quit if Rush wasn't turfed.

Edit: Interesting article - Rush was right

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