Maybe I'm Just Getting Old....

RainMaker · 08-29-2011, 02:19 AM

but music sucks. Maybe I'm becoming that old guy that "doesn't get it". Maybe every generation goes through this.

I rarely ever watch MTV but tuned in to the VMAs. It was utterly horrible. There was not a single act the entire show that was remotely watchable. The big closing act was Lil Wayne singing a song using heavy auto-tune.Is this really music? Is this really what passes for talent these days?

Get More: 2011 VMA, Music, Lil Wayne

And if MTV wasn't reprehensible enough for the Teen Mom shit they glorify toward teenagers, they made one of their big acts a guy who is a couple years removed from beating the shit out of his girlfriend.

I'm also blown away by what passes as "trend settings" these days. I can remember people like Madonna and Michael Jackson pushing the bar fashion wise. Sure it grabbed attention and people credited them for some weird stuff, but at least it seemed creative. This is what is "creative" these days.

Sorry, that's just dressing up like a clown for attention. There is nothing creative or innovative about it. The fact people find this entertaining and interesting is beyond me. She's not the only one who does this stuff, you can just look at people like Lady Gaga.

Like I said, maybe I'm just getting old and this is natural. But usually when I hear music not geared toward me, I can still see the talent. I still see people who can create music and have skills. I understand its appeal. This just seems like manufactured crap. Put together some shitty auto-tuned songs in a studio, dress them up like clowns, and call it talent. You can't tell me that half of us couldn't get on stage and sound just as good as Lil Wayne with that much auto-tune.

/old guy rant

LloydLungs · 08-29-2011, 02:51 AM

I think my moment was when Rebecca whatsername did that "Friday" song and everybody and their mom had some yuks making fun of how insipid it was. To me it sounds EXACTLY like most pop music these days. Bad, sure, but wasn't that just a 13-yr-old kid that threw something together? It's absolutely NO different than most anything popular you hear nowadays.

I'm old too.

DougW · 08-29-2011, 02:55 AM

Yeah, I agree RM.

Thanks alot though, for making me watch that horrible video - well, half of it was all I could muster - but yeah, thanks for that

law90026 · 08-29-2011, 05:01 AM

I'm feeling the same way now. Most new songs are the radio are just ... meh at best. It's kinda depressing because that's how my father used to feel about the music I listened to.

Julio Riddols · 08-29-2011, 05:37 AM

Music is good, just not popular music. You have to look via other methods in order to find it. The best music today gets its exposure through the internet and social media. TV as a medium for news and music is nearly dead, IMO.

RedKingGold · 08-29-2011, 05:51 AM

You're getting old.

Philliesfan980 · 08-29-2011, 06:06 AM

Totally agree 100% (and also agree with Julio that there's some really good stuff out there - you just have to look outside of MTV to find it).

It's strange, but obviously the current "popular" music is working, just not really sure why. I wonder how many people truly enjoy Lady Gaga? I'm guessing that the numbers for her sales and concerts are huge, but if you asked her fans "Comon, be real, do you really like this music? Or is it just because your friends do?"

Apathetic Lurker · 08-29-2011, 06:06 AM

Thats why I stick to rock and heavy metal.........

JonInMiddleGA · 08-29-2011, 07:00 AM

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Thats why I stick to rock and heavy metal.........

FOFC needs a +1 or a Like button or something.

Logan · 08-29-2011, 07:10 AM

Lady Gaga's music is a complete train wreck, but she has a really great voice. Would be nice if she used it better.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 08-29-2011, 07:12 AM

All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.

Ksyrup · 08-29-2011, 07:13 AM

I've been in a big musical rut lately. Right now feels exactly like the mid-late 90s did. I'm sure it's that I'm getting older and just don't have the time to search out new music like I used to. It's odd, but in a way, as great as the internet is for opening up avenues to finding new music, it's also had the opposite effect on me, because there's just too much to wade through, and it's all unfiltered, so it's truly like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You have to wade through an awful lot of shit to find the good stuff, if you're so lucky. Sometimes I don't even know where to start. I might have missed out on some bands I would have loved 15 years ago, but there was something comfortable about knowing exactly where to go in the local record stores to find stuff I might like. Now, it's like jumping in the middle of the ocean and trying to figure out which way to swim.

As far as pop music goes, it doesn't feel all that different now than it did 20+ years ago to me. The whole point of over-the-top appearance/actions and disposable music is to piss off adults. What I used to think was cool, was mainly cool because of its effect on others, not so much me. At the time you don't understand it that way, of course, but that's what it was. And then 15-20 years after it all fades away, it's nostalgia that brings you back to it. If I re-assess my favorite music from 20-25 years ago based on how much I listened to it between the time it fell out of favor and the time it came back as nostalgia, I think I'd have to admit that a good 96% of it didn't have any kind of lasting impact on me at all, at least not in a specific sense. And that's likely the way Lady Gaga fans will feel about her if you ask them 25 years from now. But at the time, it's cool because it sparks threads like this from old people like us.

M GO BLUE!!! · 08-29-2011, 07:42 AM

Popular music a decade ago was shit I couldn't listen to.

Popular music today is shit I wonder how anybody can listen to.

MTV plays videos?

JonInMiddleGA · 08-29-2011, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

It's odd, but in a way, as great as the internet is for opening up avenues to finding new music, it's also had the opposite effect on me, because there's just too much to wade through, and it's all unfiltered, so it's truly like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

I'd agree that it takes some work to get it down to something manageable.

I get tipped to a fair bit of the newest things I like via a couple of genre specific websites. While that doesn't eliminate a lot of other things I stumble across, it does at least give me a starting point. At least I do catch a few of the good bits now & then.

The other thing that I occasionally find useful is watching the various "related artists" or "users also liked X,Y, Z" recommendations that come from fairly mainstream sources like iTunes, Amazon, YouTube, etc. Not going to find a ton of really really obscure/new stuff that way probably, but it's usually good for prompting another look at an artist that I might have dismissed after an uninspiring first/second exposure earlier.

edit to add: It's probably easier with my harder rock preferences than with other genres perhaps, but I actually find quite a few new (to me) artists by checking the bottom end of the weekly music charts, like these. Just off the top of my head from the past few months, that technique has led me to discover Middle Class Rut, Nine Left Dead, 12 Stones, Finding Clyde, and Aranda that probably wouldn't have crossed my radar yet. It's also caused me to take longer looks at artists like Kopek, Redlight King, and Royal Bliss that I would have overlooked. The point to listing all those by name isn't that I think they're likely to be your cup of tea, but rather just to illustrate how many new(er) acts have gotten into my consciousness solely because I saw them breaking onto the charts & did some YouTube searching for samples. I don't believe radio in Atlanta has played a single one of them, only maybe a couple of those have crossed my path on their own in any fashion anywhere else, but every one of them has been in my personal rotation regularly lately. I'd say that's pretty productive just from a single source that I check once a week & then spend an hour or so digging around the 'net to hear.

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The whole point of over-the-top appearance/actions and disposable music is to piss off adults.

Hmm, I dunno about that one. The most over-the-top Gaga fans I know are all over 30. Hell, for that matter, pretty much the only Gaga fans I ever run into are over 30 (really over 40 but I'm trying to be generous here).

Ksyrup · 08-29-2011, 07:50 AM

Seriously? I don't know any Gaga fans. I don't even think my kids listen to her.

Ksyrup · 08-29-2011, 08:01 AM

This thread reminds me of probably my favorite "old man" statement of how crappy music is these days:

http://

Music of rebellion makes you want to rage
But it's made by millionaires who are nearly twice your age

JonInMiddleGA · 08-29-2011, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Seriously? I don't know any Gaga fans. I don't even think my kids listen to her.

She'd barely be a blip on my radar except for three FB friends who are absolutely fanatical about her. (You should have seen my FB wall last night during the VMA's, literally getting countdowns 'til the show started from Friday night onward). All 3 are women over 40 (at least one of whom is actually closer to 50).

To redeem myself however, I also have NASCAR driver David Ragan, who posted to his fan page last night "Watching some of the #VMAs. Is there any more normal in this world? What is the world coming to"

Matthean · 08-29-2011, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Lady Gaga's music is a complete train wreck, but she has a really great voice.

Sad she gets qualified as a great voice these days. She's average for what a mainstream singer should be, Beyonce and Janelle Monae come across as being better. Joy Williams(The Civil Wars) while not mainstream pop is certainly better as well.

Pop music died somewhere in the 90s and I say that even if based on my age I'm suppose to say the 80s.

cuervo72 · 08-29-2011, 08:12 AM

Came in to work, opened Sirius XM online, greeted by Tina singing Proud Mary. That is music.

Autumn · 08-29-2011, 08:12 AM

I think the thing is nobody remembers the "pop" music from when they were younger, they remember the music they liked, the good music. But if you compared pop songs from the '70s and '80s and '90s to now, you'd mostly have a pile of uniform crap.

Ksyrup · 08-29-2011, 08:15 AM

Actually, if you made me choose right now, I'd take 70s pop music in a heartbeat. The worst that can be said for it is it's "easy listening." But the songs are good, performed by competent musicians, and sung well (at least the pop music I'm thinking of). In fact, a lot of stuff I listen to off-mainstream these days owes quite a bit to 70s pop music - but being in a band that writes its own music and plays instruments is not where it's at anymore. I'd definitely take 70s, even if it meant having to put up with a few disco songs as being representative of the era.

Matthean · 08-29-2011, 08:28 AM

I just watched Lady Gaga's performance and I about died laughing seeing Bieber's non-reaction to the performance. Adele looked bored. The only good part of the train wreck was Brian May.

Matthean · 08-29-2011, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Actually, if you made me choose right now, I'd take 70s pop music in a heartbeat. The worst that can be said for it is it's "easy listening." But the songs are good, performed by competent musicians, and sung well (at least the pop music I'm thinking of). In fact, a lot of stuff I listen to off-mainstream these days owes quite a bit to 70s pop music - but being in a band that writes its own music and plays instruments is not where it's at anymore. I'd definitely take 70s, even if it meant having to put up with a few disco songs as being representative of the era.

My biggest complaint of the 80's is it became electronic based so it lost the soul of previously released muisc, but MJ and Madonna ruled that decade so it's hard to speak against it. Even as much as I dislike Britney, Backstreet Boys, and N'Sync, at least it was well done pop. I do agree about the 70's though. It's likely the last pure pop decade.

Ksyrup · 08-29-2011, 08:42 AM

Yeah, 80s music suffers horribly from synth overload and dated-sounding production values. It's awful, and compounded by the fact that a bunch of otherwise stellar 70s acts hit a creative wall and/or went mainstream in a cringeworthy way at the same time (Elton John, Rod Stewart, Chicago, Styx, Bowie, Heart, etc.).

Bad-example · 08-29-2011, 08:44 AM

I stopped listening to the radio in the early nineties. It wasn't that most new music sucked although it certainly sounded like crap to me. It was that popular music went off in a direction I wasn't interested in going.

I have artists I follow, and occasionally I add a new one to that list. But there are very few 'popular' artists I would know if I heard or saw them. I buy perhaps 2 cd's of new music per year.

Suburban Rhythm · 08-29-2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

but music sucks. Maybe I'm becoming that old guy that "doesn't get it". Maybe every generation goes through this.

I rarely ever watch MTV but tuned in to the VMAs.

This is some weird sort of coincidence, but...

I didn't even know what channel MTV was on my cable until, on Facebook, somebody commented about watching the VMAs, so I flipped to it.

Actually, first I was shocked...shouldn't MTV be playing videos if they are going to give out awards to them?

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I've been in a big musical rut lately. Right now feels exactly like the mid-late 90s did. I'm sure it's that I'm getting older and just don't have the time to search out new music like I used to. It's odd, but in a way, as great as the internet is for opening up avenues to finding new music, it's also had the opposite effect on me, because there's just too much to wade through, and it's all unfiltered, so it's truly like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You have to wade through an awful lot of shit to find the good stuff, if you're so lucky. Sometimes I don't even know where to start. I might have missed out on some bands I would have loved 15 years ago, but there was something comfortable about knowing exactly where to go in the local record stores to find stuff I might like. Now, it's like jumping in the middle of the ocean and trying to figure out which way to swim.

As far as pop music goes, it doesn't feel all that different now than it did 20+ years ago to me. The whole point of over-the-top appearance/actions and disposable music is to piss off adults. What I used to think was cool, was mainly cool because of its effect on others, not so much me. At the time you don't understand it that way, of course, but that's what it was. And then 15-20 years after it all fades away, it's nostalgia that brings you back to it. If I re-assess my favorite music from 20-25 years ago based on how much I listened to it between the time it fell out of favor and the time it came back as nostalgia, I think I'd have to admit that a good 96% of it didn't have any kind of lasting impact on me at all, at least not in a specific sense. And that's likely the way Lady Gaga fans will feel about her if you ask them 25 years from now. But at the time, it's cool because it sparks threads like this from old people like us.

I'm there too. I finished school in 1998, HS in 1994. So around 1994 - 2000-ish, I bought a CD a week probably. Maybe part of it is getting old, but I have no interest in buying anything new. I own everything from the groups I already like.

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She'd barely be a blip on my radar except for three FB friends who are absolutely fanatical about her. (You should have seen my FB wall last night during the VMA's, literally getting countdowns 'til the show started from Friday night onward). All 3 are women over 40 (at least one of whom is actually closer to 50).

I have one of these, but it's with all things Britney Spears (who, I can actually pick out of a crowd, unlike Gaga). Her exact posting-

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Annoyed Gaga is making Brit Brits moment so awkward...

This "woman" is 29.

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Originally Posted by Matthean

I just watched Lady Gaga's performance and I about died laughing seeing Bieber's non-reaction to the performance. Adele looked bored. The only good part of the train wreck was Brain May.

Other than Bieber (and I have a 7 year old daughter) I do not know any of those people.

Apathetic Lurker · 08-29-2011, 08:48 AM

I am so happy my 15 year old daughter prefers rock, metal and country to the regurgitated pap that passes for popular music these days....

We are going to see a metal show tonight when Mrs Lurker gets home.......

Nothing like a family outing to a mosh pit....

Drake · 08-29-2011, 08:50 AM

Whenever I'm tempted to think music sucks, I visit FOFC's "What are you listening to now" thread. I've discovered literally dozens of artists I'd likely not have heard of otherwise, recommended largely by guys in my age group (and thus, with at least vaguely similar musical roots).

It's what keeps reminding me that there are some damned good artists out there.

Ksyrup · 08-29-2011, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker

I am so happy my 15 year old daughter prefers rock, metal and country to the regurgitated pap that passes for popular music these days....

We are going to see a metal show tonight when Mrs Lurker gets home.......

Nothing like a family outing to a mosh pit....

My wife won't allow it. I'll sneak XMLM on for a few minutes in the car, but otherwise, I get shut out. The only good thing is my wife's still stuck in the 80s, so they listen to a ton of Journey, Bon Jovi, and Aerosmith (recently, Tyler made his band MILLIONS by joining AI this year), which I can do without these days, but I'd rather listen to them than contemporary pop.

My kids mainly think my musical tastes are weird, aside from 1 or 2 artists they like. But that's to be expected, I guess, when you basically only listen to metal and Beatles-inspired pop/rock.

RomaGoth · 08-29-2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Yeah, 80s music suffers horribly from synth overload and dated-sounding production values. It's awful, and compounded by the fact that a bunch of otherwise stellar 70s acts hit a creative wall and/or went mainstream in a cringeworthy way at the same time (Elton John, Rod Stewart, Chicago, Styx, Bowie, Heart, etc.).

What? No Boy George?

ISiddiqui · 08-29-2011, 09:33 AM

Anyone reminded of that South Park episode?

Oh, and I kinda like Gaga. Her last album was actually pretty good (though I only got it because it was $1 on Amazon) - yes I have a very wide variety of music I listen to, I just bought the newest CD from a band called Gungor, which is folk-rock like Christian music (think somewhat Sufjan Stevens like).

Ksyrup · 08-29-2011, 09:42 AM

I don't really have anything against Gaga or Katy Perry or any of them. I've never listened to that kind of stuff, even back when I was the primary record company target as a teen. It just doesn't appeal to me because it's singer/personality-based instead of focused on the music/songs, but I've had that opinion since way before Gaga existed, and I'll be that way for years after she's gone.

RainMaker · 08-29-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

The whole point of over-the-top appearance/actions and disposable music is to piss off adults.

I think it's to cover up for an incredibly average singer.

Ksyrup · 08-29-2011, 10:25 AM

Well, sure but that was the case with Madonna, too, right? It's about the "entertainment value" of the whole package, as opposed to the technical merits of the singing or music. That's why I don't listen to any of it.

Julio Riddols · 08-29-2011, 10:26 AM

The sad thing about Lady Gaga is that her acoustic stuff, that you can only find online is millions of times better than the club edited shit she puts out as albums. If she would just act like a serious musician and not someone who is trying to sell records, she would be a lot more respectable. I still wouldn't love her or anything, but I wouldn't wish she'd disappear either.

What I do is find music review websites that I trust that cover my general areas of listening. Then based on the reviews and the buzz generated on those sites for the bands they cover, I check those bands out. Then if I like them, I will use something like Pandora to see what else might fall in their general area and style.. I've discovered about 30 bands in the last year that I never would have known about if I didn't try that. Stuff like the Menahan Street Band, The Kills, Essence, The Morning Benders, Ravenna Woods, Broken Social Scene, Timber Timbre, Malachai and The Black Angels to name but a few. What I think is good is different than the next guy, but for all those bands above, there are others in other genres doing just as much to keep good music alive.

spleen1015 · 08-29-2011, 10:27 AM

I heard through a couple of people that Adele was the only performer worth watching at the VMAs.

Ksyrup · 08-29-2011, 10:30 AM

I probably should try something similar to Pandora, but I just don't have the time. The last time I had a musical spark lit, though, was 1999/2000 when I got around $200-300 in Amazon gift cards on one of those music rating sites that shut down when the internet bubble burst. And that was basically the same as Pandora, except I got paid to listen.

JediKooter · 08-29-2011, 10:38 AM

Hasn't pop music always sucked though? Other than every once in a while a catchy tune comes out of one of the cookie cutter pop singers/groups.

ISiddiqui · 08-29-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

The sad thing about Lady Gaga is that her acoustic stuff, that you can only find online is millions of times better than the club edited shit she puts out as albums. If she would just act like a serious musician and not someone who is trying to sell records, she would be a lot more respectable. I still wouldn't love her or anything, but I wouldn't wish she'd disappear either.

She'd likely make a LOT less money doing it though

. One of things about Gaga is that she is doing something slightly different than Spears, Aguilara (who has an amazing voice, FWIW), and the early 00s pop artists in that she's bringing dance/club music more into mainstream pop. So the "club edited" stuff is what she's attempting to do because, well... she likes it.

Ksyrup · 08-29-2011, 10:42 AM

I find it funny that so many people our age apparently watched the VMAs. Only reason I even knew they were on is I follow Billboard.com on twitter and they kept posting annoying updates every 5 minutes. Oh yeah, and the tweets from more famous people our age bitching about how horrible the music is. Otherwise, I'd have had no clue. There isn't much that could have made me tune in.

Ksyrup · 08-29-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

She'd likely make a LOT less money doing it though

. One of things about Gaga is that she is doing something slightly different than Spears, Aguilara (who has an amazing voice, FWIW), and the early 00s pop artists in that she's bringing dance/club music more into mainstream pop. So the "club edited" stuff is what she's attempting to do because, well... she likes it.

I thought all pop music was dance/club music.

bbor · 08-29-2011, 10:53 AM

I thought Adele was fantastic.She has a great voice.

Julio Riddols · 08-29-2011, 10:59 AM

I decided to spam the "what are you listening to" thread with links to the bands I mentioned above.

RainMaker · 08-29-2011, 11:03 AM

I would note that I would still tap Britney Spears in a heartbeat.

lungs · 08-29-2011, 11:03 AM

What are these VMAs people speak of? Sarcasm I know, but I'm not going to complain about a genre of music that has always sucked.

I look on Emusic for stuff that I might like instead of MTV. I don't even know what channel MTV is on DirecTV. OMG I've never once seen Jersey Shore either.

No problem with those that do enjoy such rubbish, but don't act surprise when I don't know shit about the VMAs and Jersey Shore.

/endrant

Ksyrup · 08-29-2011, 11:04 AM

I just know it's in the 330s on DTV.

ISiddiqui · 08-29-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I thought all pop music was dance/club music.

'tis not. Well it isn't exactly.

Kind of like not all rock music is metal.

Suburban Rhythm · 08-29-2011, 11:12 AM

If MTV showed reruns of Remote Control, it would be a preset on my remote.

RomaGoth · 08-29-2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

I would note that I would still tap Britney Spears in a heartbeat.

So would K-Fed.

MrBug708 · 08-29-2011, 12:05 PM

Maybe I'm different but I see music as entertainment and tend to prefer the stuff played on the radio because it's entertaining. When I hear independent, I quickly think that it sucks.

*This doesnt mean I like all music on the radio

08-29-2011, 05:37 AM	#5
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Music is good, just not popular music. You have to look via other methods in order to find it. The best music today gets its exposure through the internet and social media. TV as a medium for news and music is nearly dead, IMO. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

08-29-2011, 07:12 AM	#11
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	All this has happened before, and all this will happen again. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

08-29-2011, 07:13 AM	#12
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I've been in a big musical rut lately. Right now feels exactly like the mid-late 90s did. I'm sure it's that I'm getting older and just don't have the time to search out new music like I used to. It's odd, but in a way, as great as the internet is for opening up avenues to finding new music, it's also had the opposite effect on me, because there's just too much to wade through, and it's all unfiltered, so it's truly like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You have to wade through an awful lot of shit to find the good stuff, if you're so lucky. Sometimes I don't even know where to start. I might have missed out on some bands I would have loved 15 years ago, but there was something comfortable about knowing exactly where to go in the local record stores to find stuff I might like. Now, it's like jumping in the middle of the ocean and trying to figure out which way to swim. As far as pop music goes, it doesn't feel all that different now than it did 20+ years ago to me. The whole point of over-the-top appearance/actions and disposable music is to piss off adults. What I used to think was cool, was mainly cool because of its effect on others, not so much me. At the time you don't understand it that way, of course, but that's what it was. And then 15-20 years after it all fades away, it's nostalgia that brings you back to it. If I re-assess my favorite music from 20-25 years ago based on how much I listened to it between the time it fell out of favor and the time it came back as nostalgia, I think I'd have to admit that a good 96% of it didn't have any kind of lasting impact on me at all, at least not in a specific sense. And that's likely the way Lady Gaga fans will feel about her if you ask them 25 years from now. But at the time, it's cool because it sparks threads like this from old people like us. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-29-2011, 07:50 AM	#15
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Seriously? I don't know any Gaga fans. I don't even think my kids listen to her. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-29-2011, 08:01 AM	#16
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	This thread reminds me of probably my favorite "old man" statement of how crappy music is these days: http:// Music of rebellion makes you want to rage But it's made by millionaires who are nearly twice your age __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-29-2011, 02:51 AM	#2
LloydLungs College Prospect Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ponchatoula, LA	I think my moment was when Rebecca whatsername did that "Friday" song and everybody and their mom had some yuks making fun of how insipid it was. To me it sounds EXACTLY like most pop music these days. Bad, sure, but wasn't that just a 13-yr-old kid that threw something together? It's absolutely NO different than most anything popular you hear nowadays. I'm old too.

08-29-2011, 02:55 AM	#3
DougW High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Downriver, MI	Yeah, I agree RM. Thanks alot though, for making me watch that horrible video - well, half of it was all I could muster - but yeah, thanks for that

08-29-2011, 05:01 AM	#4
law90026 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	I'm feeling the same way now. Most new songs are the radio are just ... meh at best. It's kinda depressing because that's how my father used to feel about the music I listened to.

08-29-2011, 05:51 AM	#6
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	You're getting old.

08-29-2011, 06:06 AM	#7
Philliesfan980 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Exton, PA	Totally agree 100% (and also agree with Julio that there's some really good stuff out there - you just have to look outside of MTV to find it). It's strange, but obviously the current "popular" music is working, just not really sure why. I wonder how many people truly enjoy Lady Gaga? I'm guessing that the numbers for her sales and concerts are huge, but if you asked her fans "Comon, be real, do you really like this music? Or is it just because your friends do?"

08-29-2011, 06:06 AM	#8
Apathetic Lurker College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo,NY	Thats why I stick to rock and heavy metal.........

08-29-2011, 07:10 AM	#10
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Lady Gaga's music is a complete train wreck, but she has a really great voice. Would be nice if she used it better.

08-29-2011, 07:42 AM	#13
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	Popular music a decade ago was shit I couldn't listen to. Popular music today is shit I wonder how anybody can listen to. MTV plays videos?

08-29-2011, 08:12 AM	#19
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Came in to work, opened Sirius XM online, greeted by Tina singing Proud Mary. That is music. __________________ null

08-29-2011, 08:12 AM	#20
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I think the thing is nobody remembers the "pop" music from when they were younger, they remember the music they liked, the good music. But if you compared pop songs from the '70s and '80s and '90s to now, you'd mostly have a pile of uniform crap.

08-29-2011, 08:15 AM	#21
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Actually, if you made me choose right now, I'd take 70s pop music in a heartbeat. The worst that can be said for it is it's "easy listening." But the songs are good, performed by competent musicians, and sung well (at least the pop music I'm thinking of). In fact, a lot of stuff I listen to off-mainstream these days owes quite a bit to 70s pop music - but being in a band that writes its own music and plays instruments is not where it's at anymore. I'd definitely take 70s, even if it meant having to put up with a few disco songs as being representative of the era. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-29-2011, 08:28 AM	#22
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	I just watched Lady Gaga's performance and I about died laughing seeing Bieber's non-reaction to the performance. Adele looked bored. The only good part of the train wreck was Brian May. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table. Last edited by Matthean : 08-29-2011 at 10:23 AM.

08-29-2011, 08:42 AM	#24
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Yeah, 80s music suffers horribly from synth overload and dated-sounding production values. It's awful, and compounded by the fact that a bunch of otherwise stellar 70s acts hit a creative wall and/or went mainstream in a cringeworthy way at the same time (Elton John, Rod Stewart, Chicago, Styx, Bowie, Heart, etc.). __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-29-2011, 08:44 AM	#25
Bad-example College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: san jose CA	I stopped listening to the radio in the early nineties. It wasn't that most new music sucked although it certainly sounded like crap to me. It was that popular music went off in a direction I wasn't interested in going. I have artists I follow, and occasionally I add a new one to that list. But there are very few 'popular' artists I would know if I heard or saw them. I buy perhaps 2 cd's of new music per year.

08-29-2011, 08:48 AM	#27
Apathetic Lurker College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo,NY	I am so happy my 15 year old daughter prefers rock, metal and country to the regurgitated pap that passes for popular music these days.... We are going to see a metal show tonight when Mrs Lurker gets home....... Nothing like a family outing to a mosh pit....

08-29-2011, 08:50 AM	#28
Drake assmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bloomington, IN	Whenever I'm tempted to think music sucks, I visit FOFC's "What are you listening to now" thread. I've discovered literally dozens of artists I'd likely not have heard of otherwise, recommended largely by guys in my age group (and thus, with at least vaguely similar musical roots). It's what keeps reminding me that there are some damned good artists out there.

08-29-2011, 09:33 AM	#31
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Anyone reminded of that South Park episode? Oh, and I kinda like Gaga. Her last album was actually pretty good (though I only got it because it was $1 on Amazon) - yes I have a very wide variety of music I listen to, I just bought the newest CD from a band called Gungor, which is folk-rock like Christian music (think somewhat Sufjan Stevens like). __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams Last edited by ISiddiqui : 08-29-2011 at 09:36 AM.

08-29-2011, 09:42 AM	#32
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I don't really have anything against Gaga or Katy Perry or any of them. I've never listened to that kind of stuff, even back when I was the primary record company target as a teen. It just doesn't appeal to me because it's singer/personality-based instead of focused on the music/songs, but I've had that opinion since way before Gaga existed, and I'll be that way for years after she's gone. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-29-2011, 10:25 AM	#34
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Well, sure but that was the case with Madonna, too, right? It's about the "entertainment value" of the whole package, as opposed to the technical merits of the singing or music. That's why I don't listen to any of it. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-29-2011, 10:26 AM	#35
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	The sad thing about Lady Gaga is that her acoustic stuff, that you can only find online is millions of times better than the club edited shit she puts out as albums. If she would just act like a serious musician and not someone who is trying to sell records, she would be a lot more respectable. I still wouldn't love her or anything, but I wouldn't wish she'd disappear either. What I do is find music review websites that I trust that cover my general areas of listening. Then based on the reviews and the buzz generated on those sites for the bands they cover, I check those bands out. Then if I like them, I will use something like Pandora to see what else might fall in their general area and style.. I've discovered about 30 bands in the last year that I never would have known about if I didn't try that. Stuff like the Menahan Street Band, The Kills, Essence, The Morning Benders, Ravenna Woods, Broken Social Scene, Timber Timbre, Malachai and The Black Angels to name but a few. What I think is good is different than the next guy, but for all those bands above, there are others in other genres doing just as much to keep good music alive. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA Last edited by Julio Riddols : 08-29-2011 at 10:27 AM.

08-29-2011, 10:27 AM	#36
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I heard through a couple of people that Adele was the only performer worth watching at the VMAs.

08-29-2011, 10:30 AM	#37
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I probably should try something similar to Pandora, but I just don't have the time. The last time I had a musical spark lit, though, was 1999/2000 when I got around $200-300 in Amazon gift cards on one of those music rating sites that shut down when the internet bubble burst. And that was basically the same as Pandora, except I got paid to listen. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-29-2011, 10:38 AM	#38
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	Hasn't pop music always sucked though? Other than every once in a while a catchy tune comes out of one of the cookie cutter pop singers/groups. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

08-29-2011, 10:42 AM	#40
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I find it funny that so many people our age apparently watched the VMAs. Only reason I even knew they were on is I follow Billboard.com on twitter and they kept posting annoying updates every 5 minutes. Oh yeah, and the tweets from more famous people our age bitching about how horrible the music is. Otherwise, I'd have had no clue. There isn't much that could have made me tune in. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-29-2011, 10:53 AM	#42
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	I thought Adele was fantastic.She has a great voice. __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

08-29-2011, 10:59 AM	#43
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	I decided to spam the "what are you listening to" thread with links to the bands I mentioned above. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

08-29-2011, 11:03 AM	#44
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I would note that I would still tap Britney Spears in a heartbeat.

08-29-2011, 11:03 AM	#45
lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	What are these VMAs people speak of? Sarcasm I know, but I'm not going to complain about a genre of music that has always sucked. I look on Emusic for stuff that I might like instead of MTV. I don't even know what channel MTV is on DirecTV. OMG I've never once seen Jersey Shore either. No problem with those that do enjoy such rubbish, but don't act surprise when I don't know shit about the VMAs and Jersey Shore. /endrant

08-29-2011, 11:04 AM	#46
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I just know it's in the 330s on DTV. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-29-2011, 11:12 AM	#48
Suburban Rhythm Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh	If MTV showed reruns of Remote Control, it would be a preset on my remote. __________________ "Do you guys play fast tempos with odd time signatures?" "Yeah" "Cool!!"