12-16-2011, 09:19 PM | #1 | |||||
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Sheriff Joe.... is a scumbag.
Sheriff’s Arpaio’s Office Targeted Latinos, U.S. Says - NYTimes.com
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You don't have to be an immigration liberal to think this dude is scum. Hell, if I were an immigration hawk, I'd be pissed, because he's held up as a symbol bearer for the audience. |
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12-16-2011, 09:50 PM | #2 |
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Refusing to investigate hundreds of sexual assault cases because of skin color is disgusting too. Sort of throws that whole tough on crime thing out the window.
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12-16-2011, 09:52 PM | #3 |
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I couldn't help but lol at the last bit of "evidence" against him, about the ratio of stops. That says nothing about the ratio of various ethnic groups providing perfectly legitimate reason/probable cause to make a stop & without that the ratio of stops is completely meaningless.
Then again, afaic, by any means necessary.
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Since I know how deeply you care about civil rights, I'm sure you just missed this while scouring the report: Quote:
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I'm also sure you applied this same level of scrutiny when providing you expert analysis of why Troy Davis needed to die. Correlation doesn't equal causation, but I'm noticing a trend in your opinions on matters of criminal justice. |
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12-17-2011, 12:19 AM | #5 | |
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You're waaaaay overestimating how big a shit I gave about some hatchet job on the guy. I commented strictly on what was posted here, no more & no less. Then again, if the current J. Dept told me it was raining, I'd go outside to check. And if water happened to appear to be falling from the sky, I'd check the roof for someone with a garden hose. Considering the source, this isn't worth the paper it was printed on.
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12-17-2011, 07:17 AM | #6 |
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As someone who lives here I am not always a big fan of Arpaio, whose thought process seems to be more and more tainted by his desire to get publicity as the years go on. He has done some good things in Maricopa county and some bad (being over the top on this issue is one of them)
That said, HB 2162 places so much of a focus on this issue, that even if an officer is not conciously profiling they are bound to pay more attention to Latino drivers than other races. This could easily inflate the numbers of unfounded stops. HB 2162 has only been in effect for roughly a year and a half though, so it you can't place blame solely on it. This along with the botched sex crime cases mean some turbulent seas are in store for Arpaio and rightfully so. He gets to caught up in the end result ALOT and makes mistakes on the path to get there. I am all for cracking down more on illegal immigration, but not as haphazardly as Arpaio is doing it. But part me wonders how much the Justice Department is going to extreme measures to big things up here because of HB 2162 in the first place? How hypocritical of them to come in as a beacon of virtue when they have done jack shit to in the areas of border security. Not to mention the federal sting that resulted in one of many weapons allowed to cross the border and into the hands of drug cartels, was used in the murder of a border enforcement agent last year. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out in the end. Arpaio does need to be held accountable for some reckless law enforcement, but the JD can go fuck themselves for their holier than thou attitude as it pertains to this issue. |
12-17-2011, 08:23 AM | #7 | |
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The investigation began in June 2008--long before HB 2162 was passed. Best I can tell, the data set involved only car stops from before it was passed, too. |
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12-17-2011, 08:45 AM | #8 | |
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Yeah, that is why I made a reference to the timeline and I don't know for sure if there was any data included after SB 2162 was passed or not. You still have to wonder though if SB 2162 that might have spurred them to twist the blade a little bit more. Definitely not defending Sheriff Joe here, but the JD are not a bunch of saints either. |
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