FOFC Movie ReMake Challenge: And the winner is... - Page 2

cadmus2166 · 08-14-2012, 09:56 AM

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Ouch.

I guess Tombstone never got that cast on a budget for $25M.

Wait a minute... !

Umm...that budget was 20 years ago. Also costs associated with making movies have risen well above the standard inflation rate.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 08-14-2012, 10:24 AM

no country for old men and there will be blood were both made for 25 mil. i'd say they're similar in scale to tgtbtu. plus, we're not really factoring in actor salaries. so 60 million sounds feasible to me for a western (esp. considering there are a zillion unused western sets in and around california)

edit: 'the assassination of jesse james by the coward robert ford' budget: 30 mil. and i thought they had some pretty big production pieces in that film

Chief Rum · 08-14-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

yeah, that's why i thought the idea was fascinating. would people try to find imperfect movies that could be improved upon or would they just update classics?

except for tarcone (and maybe jedi and sui) everyone went the classic route. which has its detractors.

conversely, you could have a brilliant idea for a shitty movie and the perception would still be that it's a shitty movie.

I actually think I went both. Bladerunner is undoubtedly a classic, but it's a cult classic that did not do well at the box office when it came out. I think most would regard it as a solid film with flaws (pre-director's cut, which fixed many flaws).

Chief Rum · 08-14-2012, 10:30 AM

BTW, I voted for three movies, because I figured it was like voting "1, 2 and 3", but wasn't sure what the actual voting expectations were. Sorry if you posted that, NTO, and I missed it.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 08-14-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

BTW, I voted for three movies, because I figured it was like voting "1, 2 and 3", but wasn't sure what the actual voting expectations were. Sorry if you posted that, NTO, and I missed it.

nope. no voting rules. i'm having a hard time deciding myself

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 08-14-2012, 10:40 AM

and blade runner was a fine choice. that and logan's run are constantly brought up as welcome remakes

cadmus2166 · 08-14-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

no country for old men and there will be blood were both made for 25 mil. i'd say they're similar in scale to tgtbtu. plus, we're not really factoring in actor salaries. so 60 million sounds feasible to me for a western (esp. considering there are a zillion unused western sets in and around california)

edit: 'the assassination of jesse james by the coward robert ford' budget: 30 mil. and i thought they had some pretty big production pieces in that film

Alright, fair enough.

sterlingice · 08-14-2012, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

no country for old men and there will be blood were both made for 25 mil. i'd say they're similar in scale to tgtbtu. plus, we're not really factoring in actor salaries. so 60 million sounds feasible to me for a western (esp. considering there are a zillion unused western sets in and around california)

Yeah, I think using No Country for Old Men as a The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly comparison is spot on, as least for budget purposes. In fact, it's one I've even used before.

SI

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 08-14-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cadmus2166

Alright, fair enough.

no offense intended. you're certainly entitled to your opinion. it's just that we have a pretty good sniff test and had it been really egregious he certainly would have caught shit for it.

plus, he has robert rodriguez who made el mariachi for like 40 cents* and clint eastwood who's renowned for being a one take jake

*approximately

cadmus2166 · 08-14-2012, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

no offense intended. you're certainly entitled to your opinion. it's just that we have a pretty good sniff test and had it been really egregious he certainly would have caught shit for it.

plus, he has robert rodriguez who made el mariachi for like 40 cents* and clint eastwood who's renowned for being a one take jake

*approximately

Haha, that's cool. And I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone either. It just seems like almost every movie these days costs the GDP of a small country to make, so to see all those big names next to a $60M budget, kinda blew me away!

sabotai · 08-14-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Yeah... No offense sab, but I'd you thought star trek was terrible I'm really not bothered by you not liking my casting

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I put Abrams' Star Trek on the same level as Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Just an awful movie, so I'm not shocked that you mismanage talent.

wade moore · 08-14-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

I put Abrams' Star Trek on the same level as Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Just an awful movie, so I'm not shocked that you mismanage talent.

Gotcha. Well, you're in the minority on that view - but certainly not going to dog you for it. Just shows we have dramatically different opinions on some things related to movies.

WVUFAN · 08-14-2012, 05:57 PM

What didn't you like about JJ Abrams' Star Trek?

stevew · 08-14-2012, 06:02 PM

I hated star trek before, but the remakes actually have me interested in the series.

sabotai · 08-14-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WVUFAN

What didn't you like about JJ Abrams' Star Trek?

It seemed like the writers had some good ideas, but had no clue how to carry them out or connect them. The plot felt like a mess. The characters were one dimensional.

Looking at the IMDB, I can see why. I shouldn't blame this on Abrams since he didn't write the thing, and my issues are with the writing. The writers are the same people that gave us Mission Impossible III, Transformers, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen and Cowboys & Aliens. I'm not surprised these writers don't know how to write characters and plot development since they just want to write Michael Bay type movies.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 08-15-2012, 05:49 AM

huh, i coulda sworn i set the poll for 4 days. ah well, an extra day can't hurt.

as the votes continue to trickle in tgtbtu has taken a 3 vote lead over ghostbusters. while blade runner fell back to the pack and now the godfather is within striking distance.

big thanks to all that voted!

poll's open till friday @ 7:40 pm

Grover · 08-15-2012, 07:35 AM

THIS IS A PLOT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T WIN!

Grover · 08-15-2012, 07:40 AM

But no, seriously... everybody should vote.

edit: (for me)

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 08-15-2012, 07:58 AM

lol. it was purely driven by self interest*. it's shark week people. SHARK WEEK!

*or fat fingers. either way

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 08-15-2012, 11:43 AM

i didn't want to post my thoughts straight away cuz i didn't want it to influence voting (you think too highly of yourself, norv) SHUT UP, YOU

but i have thoughts. and here they are
:adjusts internet know-it-all cap:

ghostbusters: assuming all these flicks came out at the same time this would be the one that started at the periphery and ended with the cast on the cover of rolling stone. if i have a gripe it's that i woulda liked whedon @director and someone like zemeckis producing

logan's run: probably one of the most coveted remakes and certainly one of the most ripped off movies of all time. it's not fair for me to say much as i'm ambivalent about scifi and jj abrams. i will say as someone who dabbles in (really bad) screenwriting i consider joel silver to be one of the most destructive forces in hollywood. his insistence on an action beat every 7 pages (ie: an action scene every 7 minutes... y'know, cuz the audience gets bored) has resulted in the whiz-bangification of all action movies (seriously, watch the matrix sequels with a stopwatch. every.7.minutes.)

scarface: was hoping you'd take jamie fox for tony and slide denzel to frank. other than that love your creativity. love that you chose daft punk to update the synthy 80's score. fincher's mtv roots would shine here.

rain man: love the idea. but if you wanted darker/grittier spielberg was an odd choice

blade runner: so close to being perfect if it wasn't for goddamn rob zombie. if you had took scott or roman polanski (the film's rife with esoterica)@producer i'd have already voted for you. if you took gaspar noe to produce i'd have ended the competition and declared you too smart for the rest of us

tgtbtu: if i'm gonna pick nits i'd say i'm not in love with eastwood's actor direction. i know he likes to work fast but some of the performances he settles for are weak. of course he's never had a cast like this.

the sting: perfect? nearly perfect? if i've got a gripe it's that soderbergh can be hit or miss for me. that's a really weak complaint.

flash gordon: kudos for having the most ambition. but... lucas and scott are great technical guys (well, scott at least) who aren't great at actor direction. that's trouble with evans (looks>chops) and willis and connery who've been known to mail it in at times.

the godfather: larry's taken enough grief. i will say if you had to remake the godfather you'd be hard pressed to put a better team on the field

jaws: it's definitely a case of "nobody thinks their kid is ugly" i think the criticism is valid but i stand by my picks. as a huge jaws fan if you told me someone was remaking it i'd punch you in the face. if you said someone is remaking it and the coens are directing i'd be... cautiously intrigued?

of course it's easy to be critical in hindsight. the fog of war during 'live draft" can never be discounted. overall i was really impressed. everyone brought the heat and kept bringing it. well done all around

stevew · 08-15-2012, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

scarface: was hoping you'd take jamie fox for tony and slide denzel to frank. other than that love your creativity. love that you chose daft punk to update the synthy 80's score. fincher's mtv roots would shine here.

I was thinking of making Denzel into Frank, casting Will as Tony, and having my wildcard be "3 Part Series". I was thinking of casting Beyoncee as Tony's sister as it's kind of a large part.

MIJB#19 · 08-15-2012, 04:35 PM

I see two movies where I really like the cast and two more where I'd just want to see the lead female actress in action. I decided to vote just for that first couple. Scarface for the interesting concept and unusual cast, Good-Bad-Ugly basically just for the Pitt-Depp combo.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 08-16-2012, 05:57 AM

daily bump.

it's ghostbusters holding fast with tgtbtu and the godfather now in command of 3rd

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 08-17-2012, 05:52 AM

in the home stretch now. wade's gonna need the ghostbusters fans to come out of the woodwork or else Grover will be taking home the inaugural trophy.

huge thanks to all that voted!!!

poll closes @7:40 pm est

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 08-17-2012, 12:04 PM

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 08-17-2012, 07:42 PM

The poll dragged a bit (going forward I think 3 days is the sweet spot for polls) but otherwise the inaugural FOFC Movie ReMake Challenge was a

Huge thanks to everyone! Participants and voters!

65 members of the FOFC community spoke and the winners are...

Coming in 3rd place and winner of the Peoples Choice Award

Spoiler

Coming in 2nd place and winner of the Golden Glode Award

Spoiler

and the Academy Award goes to...

Spoiler

Once again huge thanks to all that participated. It was a lot of fun. We received some good feedback and some great ideas and for those interested we will be (ahem) rebooting this franchise in a week or so. So keep an eye out for the signup thread!

stevew · 08-17-2012, 08:00 PM

Def going to choose something with better 35-49 white guy appeal next time.

chadritt · 08-17-2012, 08:06 PM

Argh, I know the perfect director i would want for a draft but cant get beyond that...

Young Drachma · 08-17-2012, 08:49 PM

Seems like 1st place was Best Picture at the Oscars, 2nd place won a Golden Globe and 3rd place won the Palme d'Or went to the director of the 3rd place film.

Whichever lowest budget film came with the highest number of votes won the Sundance Film Festival.

tarcone · 08-17-2012, 08:49 PM

So where is my Razzie?

Next time I will have a better plan. Just wait.

Grover · 08-17-2012, 10:47 PM

*takes a bow*

Thank you!

Big thanks to norv for running the tournament. I had a lot of fun with everybody and look forward to the reboot. I will defend my title!

TRO · 08-22-2012, 07:03 AM

I think it would be interesting to also vote for a best cast actor / actress.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 08-22-2012, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TRO

I think it would be interesting to also vote for a best cast actor / actress.

sure. we could have all sorts of fun awards. but... it would have to be a separate write in vote thread as i want to keep the main voting thread as simple as possible

Young Drachma · 03-10-2013, 01:46 PM

Looks like TV On The Radio already started working on the soundtrack to wade's Ghostbusters remake. Fast forward to about 4:20

Matthean · 03-10-2013, 02:52 PM

If it's ever done, Bill Murray won't be involved.

View Poll Results: Which movie would you like to see?
GHOSTBUSTERS	23	35.38%
LOGAN'S RUN	15	23.08%
SCARFACE	12	18.46%
(THE) RAIN MAN	7	10.77%
BLADE RUNNER	16	24.62%
THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY	25	38.46%
THE STING	11	16.92%
FLASH GORDON	6	9.23%
THE GODFATHER	17	26.15%
JAWS	16	24.62%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

08-14-2012, 10:24 AM	#52
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	no country for old men and there will be blood were both made for 25 mil. i'd say they're similar in scale to tgtbtu. plus, we're not really factoring in actor salaries. so 60 million sounds feasible to me for a western (esp. considering there are a zillion unused western sets in and around california) edit: 'the assassination of jesse james by the coward robert ford' budget: 30 mil. and i thought they had some pretty big production pieces in that film Last edited by NorvTurnerOverdrive : 08-14-2012 at 10:37 AM.

08-14-2012, 10:30 AM	#54
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	BTW, I voted for three movies, because I figured it was like voting "1, 2 and 3", but wasn't sure what the actual voting expectations were. Sorry if you posted that, NTO, and I missed it. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-14-2012, 05:57 PM	#63
WVUFAN College Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Huntington, WV	What didn't you like about JJ Abrams' Star Trek? __________________

08-15-2012, 07:35 AM	#67
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	THIS IS A PLOT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T WIN! __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

08-14-2012, 10:40 AM	#56
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	and blade runner was a fine choice. that and logan's run are constantly brought up as welcome remakes

08-14-2012, 06:02 PM	#64
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I hated star trek before, but the remakes actually have me interested in the series.

08-15-2012, 05:49 AM	#66
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	huh, i coulda sworn i set the poll for 4 days. ah well, an extra day can't hurt. as the votes continue to trickle in tgtbtu has taken a 3 vote lead over ghostbusters. while blade runner fell back to the pack and now the godfather is within striking distance. big thanks to all that voted! poll's open till friday @ 7:40 pm

08-15-2012, 07:40 AM	#68
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	But no, seriously... everybody should vote. edit: (for me) __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner Last edited by Grover : 08-15-2012 at 07:40 AM.

08-15-2012, 07:58 AM	#69
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	lol. it was purely driven by self interest. it's shark week people. SHARK WEEK! or fat fingers. either way

08-15-2012, 11:43 AM	#70
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	i didn't want to post my thoughts straight away cuz i didn't want it to influence voting (you think too highly of yourself, norv) SHUT UP, YOU but i have thoughts. and here they are :adjusts internet know-it-all cap: ghostbusters: assuming all these flicks came out at the same time this would be the one that started at the periphery and ended with the cast on the cover of rolling stone. if i have a gripe it's that i woulda liked whedon @director and someone like zemeckis producing logan's run: probably one of the most coveted remakes and certainly one of the most ripped off movies of all time. it's not fair for me to say much as i'm ambivalent about scifi and jj abrams. i will say as someone who dabbles in (really bad) screenwriting i consider joel silver to be one of the most destructive forces in hollywood. his insistence on an action beat every 7 pages (ie: an action scene every 7 minutes... y'know, cuz the audience gets bored) has resulted in the whiz-bangification of all action movies (seriously, watch the matrix sequels with a stopwatch. every.7.minutes.) scarface: was hoping you'd take jamie fox for tony and slide denzel to frank. other than that love your creativity. love that you chose daft punk to update the synthy 80's score. fincher's mtv roots would shine here. rain man: love the idea. but if you wanted darker/grittier spielberg was an odd choice blade runner: so close to being perfect if it wasn't for goddamn rob zombie. if you had took scott or roman polanski (the film's rife with esoterica)@producer i'd have already voted for you. if you took gaspar noe to produce i'd have ended the competition and declared you too smart for the rest of us tgtbtu: if i'm gonna pick nits i'd say i'm not in love with eastwood's actor direction. i know he likes to work fast but some of the performances he settles for are weak. of course he's never had a cast like this. the sting: perfect? nearly perfect? if i've got a gripe it's that soderbergh can be hit or miss for me. that's a really weak complaint. flash gordon: kudos for having the most ambition. but... lucas and scott are great technical guys (well, scott at least) who aren't great at actor direction. that's trouble with evans (looks>chops) and willis and connery who've been known to mail it in at times. the godfather: larry's taken enough grief. i will say if you had to remake the godfather you'd be hard pressed to put a better team on the field jaws: it's definitely a case of "nobody thinks their kid is ugly" i think the criticism is valid but i stand by my picks. as a huge jaws fan if you told me someone was remaking it i'd punch you in the face. if you said someone is remaking it and the coens are directing i'd be... cautiously intrigued? of course it's easy to be critical in hindsight. the fog of war during 'live draft" can never be discounted. overall i was really impressed. everyone brought the heat and kept bringing it. well done all around Last edited by NorvTurnerOverdrive : 08-15-2012 at 11:46 AM.

08-15-2012, 04:35 PM	#72
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	I see two movies where I really like the cast and two more where I'd just want to see the lead female actress in action. I decided to vote just for that first couple. Scarface for the interesting concept and unusual cast, Good-Bad-Ugly basically just for the Pitt-Depp combo. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

08-16-2012, 05:57 AM	#73
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	daily bump. it's ghostbusters holding fast with tgtbtu and the godfather now in command of 3rd

08-17-2012, 05:52 AM	#74
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	in the home stretch now. wade's gonna need the ghostbusters fans to come out of the woodwork or else Grover will be taking home the inaugural trophy. huge thanks to all that voted!!! poll closes @7:40 pm est

08-17-2012, 12:04 PM	#75
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	bump

08-17-2012, 07:42 PM	#76
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	The poll dragged a bit (going forward I think 3 days is the sweet spot for polls) but otherwise the inaugural FOFC Movie ReMake Challenge was a Huge thanks to everyone! Participants and voters! 65 members of the FOFC community spoke and the winners are... Coming in 3rd place and winner of the Peoples Choice Award Spoiler THE GODFATHER by larrymcg421 Despite early criticism "The Godfather'" proved the doubters wrong and took home 26.15% of all votes tallied. Congratulations larrymcg421! Coming in 2nd place and winner of the Golden Glode Award Spoiler GHOSTBUSTERS by wade moore 35.8% of FOFC voters were enchanted by the classic comedy and wade's visionary casting. Congratulations wade moore! and the Academy Award goes to... Spoiler THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY by Grover Voters loved Grover's vision for the western classic. With an all star cast and the original mysterious man in the director's chair 38.46% of FOFC voters gave TGTBTU the nod. Congratulations Grover!!! Once again huge thanks to all that participated. It was a lot of fun. We received some good feedback and some great ideas and for those interested we will be (ahem) rebooting this franchise in a week or so. So keep an eye out for the signup thread!

08-17-2012, 08:00 PM	#77
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Def going to choose something with better 35-49 white guy appeal next time.

08-17-2012, 08:06 PM	#78
chadritt High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA	Argh, I know the perfect director i would want for a draft but cant get beyond that...

08-17-2012, 08:49 PM	#79
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Seems like 1st place was Best Picture at the Oscars, 2nd place won a Golden Globe and 3rd place won the Palme d'Or went to the director of the 3rd place film. Whichever lowest budget film came with the highest number of votes won the Sundance Film Festival.

08-17-2012, 08:49 PM	#80
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	So where is my Razzie? Next time I will have a better plan. Just wait.

08-17-2012, 10:47 PM	#81
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	takes a bow Thank you! Big thanks to norv for running the tournament. I had a lot of fun with everybody and look forward to the reboot. I will defend my title! __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

08-22-2012, 07:03 AM	#82
TRO College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisburg, KS	I think it would be interesting to also vote for a best cast actor / actress. __________________ TRA, the Royal Ape

03-10-2013, 01:46 PM	#84
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Looks like TV On The Radio already started working on the soundtrack to wade's Ghostbusters remake. Fast forward to about 4:20 Last edited by Young Drachma : 03-10-2013 at 01:46 PM.

03-10-2013, 02:52 PM	#85
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	If it's ever done, Bill Murray won't be involved. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

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