The Barry Zito Blows (Reverse Mojo) Thread

[Bad-example]

Buster Posey was called up today. Maybe he will start tomorrow and catch Lincecum. Oh, and Pedro Martinez is going that day.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Bad-example

Make that Sanchez-Penny-Lincecum for the upcoming Phillies series.

Penny seems like a rich man's Tomko to me, but he should be an upgrade over the current 5th starter options.

Penny can be phenomenal when he's on his game.

Or he can be a rich man's Tomko, as you pointed out.

The good news is, you're only paying him a pro-rated portion of the minimum salary, so he can be a poor man's Brett Tomko and what're you really losing?

[Bad-example]

Buster Posey is coming to your local Wal-mart to slap your Dodger-loving kids quiet!

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Bad-example

Buster Posey is coming to your local Wal-mart to slap your Dodger-loving kids quiet!

I don't have kids.

He'll be slapping Brewer-loving kids and then Prince Fielder will go nuclear on his ass.

[kingfc22]

Lincecum v. Pedro tomorrow should be fantastic.

[Bad-example]

Barry Zito 3.94 (9-11) vs. Jeff Suppan 5.20 (6-8)

Wonder if the Giants are regretting passing on Dye at the deadline.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Bad-example

Josh has set the bar. 85 wins or bust!

At 75-61, the Giants need to go 10-16 the rest of the way to match the 2003 Dodgers' 85-77 record.

Since June 6th, their team OPS is up 10 points! However...after the rubber game against Milwaukee today, the Giants have four remaining with the Cubs, and 21 remaining against the NL West. Their record against the West, year-to-date, is 26-25.

Can that extra ten points of OPS give the Giants a boost in their record against their own division as they strive for 85?

[Bad-example]

SD: W. LeBlanc (1-1, 6.06 ERA) SF: B. Zito (9-11, 3.95 ERA)

Gutsy performance from Bumgarner last night but the pen let him down. The Giants are now three back in the wild card and it's looking the the Rockies aren't going to ease up on the throttle.

[Bad-example]

Col: U. Jimenez (13-10, 3.32 ERA) SF: B. Zito (9-12, 3.99 ERA)

Win or lose, it has been a nice year for the Giants. Arrow pointing upward for next year.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Bad-example

Col: U. Jimenez (13-10, 3.32 ERA) SF: B. Zito (9-12, 3.99 ERA)

Win or lose, it has been a nice year for the Giants. Arrow pointing upward for next year.

I'm doing my part. Zito is starting for my fantasy, just like last time. If it ain't broke...

[Karlifornia]

Come on, Barry. We need you more than ever.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I've been a big fan of this thread all year, but only just recently re-registered.

Come on Zito!

[Bad-example]

Welcome back.

SF: B. Zito (10-12, 3.94 ERA) Ari: B. Buckner (2-6, 6.79 ERA)

Angel Villalona accused of murder. Maybe, just maybe, the victim was a Dodger fan.

Hey, just trying to find a silver lining here.

[SackAttack]

That just means the Dodger fan will have the best seats in the house for the playoffs while Villalona does 20 years and the Giants sport the most incredible pitching staff ever to miss the playoffs.

Silver lining?

[Bad-example]

Less this

Originally Posted by SackAttack

blah blah blah...

More this

Make The Pain Stop - Front Office Football Central

[Bad-example]

ChC: T. Gorzelanny (6-2, 5.08 ERA) SF: B. Zito (10-12, 3.99 ERA)

At least we are finally getting a look at Posey.

[Bad-example]

SF: B. Zito (10-13, 4.10 ERA) SD: K. Correia (12-10, 3.89 ERA)

Bit of a shame they let Correia walk.

I have mixed feelings about Sabean/Bochy returning. Bochy brought sanity to a pitching staff that was in complete disarray when Alou was in charge. I am not a fan of his lineups but I figure 25% of that is on Sabean.

As for him, his veteran pickups like Miller, Medders, Uribe and the more pricey Affeldt worked out well. He was unlucky (I suppose) with the Sanchez and Garko trades. If both stay healthy and hit their career averages, the Giants are probably in the playoffs. The scouting and development departments seem to be working pretty well. I guess I am fine with Sabean returning as long as he doesn't do something like sign Winn to a 3 year/19M extension...

[JediKooter]

Not sure if this has been brought up (too lazy to read back), but, I was looking at Zito's stats the other day and other than his Cy Young year, he really never has had a great win/loss record and usually has an ERA in the high 3s to low 4s and only went over 200 strike outs in a season once. Looking at his numbers, I'd say he would be a number 3 or 4 spot pitcher and not the ace of any staff.

Just my opinion when looking at his stats and I did not look to see if he had a lot of 1-0 or 2-1 type losses where he just got no run support, but, I think the Giants were stupid to spend the money they did on him, given the numbers he had in Oakland and not based on 'hindsight is 20/20' from his 3 seasons in SF.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Bad-example

Less this



More this

Make The Pain Stop - Front Office Football Central

Heh. Touché.

But y'know what? Even the moves Colletti made last year to get some bats, McCourt wouldn't actually let him spend money. He had to bring in Ramirez and Blake on a salary-neutral basis. Meant giving the Indians a pretty good kid in Carlos Santana to get them to pick up Blake's salary.

He let Colletti re-sign Blake and Ramirez this past offseason, but other than that, the only signings of any note I can remember have been Schmidt (not a bat!) and Andruw Jones (yeah, four years after he made that statement, and we all know how that worked out).

He's raised ticket prices, concession prices, and parking prices, but as far as I can tell, the only money he's put back into the team was in upgrading the stadium facilities so he could charge more for tickets.

So, yeah, despite the success the team has had, I stand by what I said about McCourt five years ago. Even last year's run was basically the kids + Manny - who at the time, remember, wasn't costing the Dodgers a cent.

Bring it up again five years from now when all of the kids have exhausted their arbitration eligibility and see what McCourt does then.

Back to your regularly scheduled Giants thread.

[k0ruptr]

Zito finished pretty strong last nite, and thus finished the season with a 4.03 era. I think he had a pretty decent year and hope he can build on it and have an even better year next season. good luck Barry.

[Vince, Pt. II]

It's really sad that a guy who's making approximately $20M per year is considered to have a pretty decent year at a 4.00+ ERA.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by JediKooter

Not sure if this has been brought up (too lazy to read back), but, I was looking at Zito's stats the other day and other than his Cy Young year, he really never has had a great win/loss record and usually has an ERA in the high 3s to low 4s and only went over 200 strike outs in a season once. Looking at his numbers, I'd say he would be a number 3 or 4 spot pitcher and not the ace of any staff.

Just my opinion when looking at his stats and I did not look to see if he had a lot of 1-0 or 2-1 type losses where he just got no run support, but, I think the Giants were stupid to spend the money they did on him, given the numbers he had in Oakland and not based on 'hindsight is 20/20' from his 3 seasons in SF.

Yeah, it was puzzling as shit at the time.

[JediKooter]

Originally Posted by stevew

Yeah, it was puzzling as shit at the time.

I think it can be safely said that it is still puzzling.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

5 straight hits. Sigh. Thank you Brian FUCKING Sabean and your proven winners philosophy.

Both he and Bochy got extensions today. Aren't you excited?

[AENeuman]

Quote from Zito today: "I've got an appetite right now for success. For whatever reason, I've had to build that appetite back up...."

in other words: ok, this time i'm going to try

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...#ixzz0kMF1hk6l

[SackAttack]

Hey, Barry. Money talks, bullshit walks.

Oh yeah. I went there.

[JediKooter]

Originally Posted by AENeuman

Quote from Zito today: "I've got an appetite right now for success. For whatever reason, I've had to build that appetite back up...."

in other words: ok, this time i'm going to try

Read more: GIANTS / Zito says he has worked up an appetite to succeed

I've got a fever for more cow bell...

[k0ruptr]

19.1 innings pitched 4 earned runs. Barry Zito you go girl

[PurdueBrad]

Alright, let's see if I can jinx this whole thing:

5-0, 1.49 ERA, and a 0.92 WHIP

[Travis]

Nope, he's pretty much guaranteed season long success now that I've dealt him away in fantasy baseball.

Either way, I'm pretty happy with the stats I've gotten out of him to this point.

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper

But a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do, said a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do, said a man's gotta Dew, 2nd verse

So maybe he was shamed out of pursuing a singing career and actually decided to concentrate on, you know, pitching?

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Alright, let's see if I can jinx this whole thing:

5-0, 1.49 ERA, and a 0.92 WHIP

FUCK YOU! Why would you want to do that?

[Crapshoot]

PS - Barry Zito now has the lowest ERA of any SP on the Giants staff. If you had told us that at the beginning of the year, we would have assumed Lincecum, Cain, and Sanchez quit to start their grunge rock band.

[Bad-example]

Magic lucky shirt gonna be working overtime today.

Do what you gotta do, Barry.

[kingfc22]

Is it too late for the reverse mojo to work tonight?

[BYU 14]

His Fastball is now 84-85 MPH, there are guys that throw their changeup that hard......He needs to invest in an emory board.

[kingfc22]

Giants have won 15 straight Zito starts dating back to last year including the post season.

[Bad-example]

The Giants have won two World Series since my last post in this thread.

*head explodes*

[Vince, Pt. II]

Pretty awesome reading back through this thread.

[MrBug708]

Time for another extension!