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Old 09-04-2013, 09:15 AM   #51
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DeSean Jackson or TY Hilton?

Near-tossup to me in a draft, but for week one, I'd start Jackson.

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Old 09-04-2013, 09:19 AM   #52
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In my league we can trade draft dollars for our 2014 auction draft. I was just offered Kenbrell Thompkins, Aaron Dobson and $2 for Golden Tate and DeAndre Hopkins. This is non-PPR and we start 3 WR's. My current WR's are Brandon Marshall, Jordy Nelson, Pierre Garcon, Miles Austin, Tate, Hopkins, Kenny Stills and D. Moore. Do the trade or not?
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:19 AM   #53
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DeSean Jackson or TY Hilton?

I'd start Jackson. I like him this year.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:20 AM   #54
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So are we going Lacy this week @SF? I'm a little scared off - stout defense on the road in his first game. Feel like my only sensible other option would be Ben Tate, who while behind Foster will get work against a middling defense.

I'd start Lacy.
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:20 PM   #55
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Luck vs. Oakland
RGIII vs. Philly

Thoughts? Leaning towards Luck.
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:23 PM   #56
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Still Lacy, he'll get the carries and could score a TD or two. Tate could do nothing if Foster gets the workload which may happen
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Old 09-04-2013, 01:45 PM   #57
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In most leagues, there are better waiver options than Broyles, I think.

But seriously, you might need to get some help. Like life help. This seems serious.

Lulz. Well, to justify myself as much as I can (which may not be much, admittedly), this league is not only PPR, but point per COMPLETION. Suddenly, Stat Padford is the man.
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:03 PM   #58
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Luck vs. Oakland
RGIII vs. Philly

Thoughts? Leaning towards Luck.

Both have tasty matchups but I'd side with the one not coming back quickly from a huge injury.
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:29 PM   #59
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In my league we can trade draft dollars for our 2014 auction draft. I was just offered Kenbrell Thompkins, Aaron Dobson and $2 for Golden Tate and DeAndre Hopkins. This is non-PPR and we start 3 WR's. My current WR's are Brandon Marshall, Jordy Nelson, Pierre Garcon, Miles Austin, Tate, Hopkins, Kenny Stills and D. Moore. Do the trade or not?
I wouldn't. Thompkins and Dobson don't offer huge upside this year (in non-PPR), and at best one of these will be your WR3, so I'd keep the highest upside player in Hopkins.

Side note - is this a keeper league, and is it normal to have 8 WR's on a team?
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:31 PM   #60
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Good plan, overall. TE could present a lot of value this year, with wiseguy picks like Cameron and Sudfeld going probably higher than is reasonable. But somewhere around round 9 you likely get a quality guy for a few weeks. If you don't take Gronk in round 3, then you likely see some decent value at WR there...like instead of Gronk/7thRdWR you get a pretty good quality WR1 and then you take your starting TE in round 7, and end up pleased to land someone like Olsen, Rudolph, or the like.

Skip the late round WR flier unless it's a strong play...instead go for another upside play at RB. A guy like Knile Davis or Joique Bell is worth a ton more than the caliber of WR who is still plentiful on the waiver wire, even in a 14-team league. Or, in a deep league like that, taking a late-roun flier at QB makes sense (I think EJ Manuel and Alex Smith are nice plays in those stages).

It was a rough draft with 14 teams. I listed Knile Davis as one of my late round picks. He came off the board in Round 10. 2 rounds later than Joique Bell. Anyways, I stuck to the plan (almost) and ended up with this:

1.8 LeSean McCoy
2.7 David Wilson
3.8 Rob Gronkowski
4.7 Tom Brady (run on QB's... would of had nothing when it got back to me)
5.8 Antonio Brown
6.7 Shane Vereen (hard choice between Vereen and Deangelo Williams)
7.8 T.Y. Hilton
8.7 Golden Tate
9.8 Zach Sudfeld
10.7 Seattle D
11.8 Darius Heyward-Bey
12.7 Quinton Patton
13.8 Sam Bradford
14.7 Felix Jones (He was rumored to be the starter as of Monday night. I think alcohol might of had something to do with this pick.)
15.8 Randy Bullock
16.7 Bilal Powell

I'm not happy with the receivers, but feel alright with the rest of the squad. Go Patriots .

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Old 09-04-2013, 04:01 PM   #61
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Pick 1 to start this week:

Reggie Bush (DET) vs Min
Darren Sproles (NO) vs Atl
DeAngelo Williams (CAR) vs Sea

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Old 09-04-2013, 04:04 PM   #62
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pick 3 to start this week:

Danny Amendola (NE) vs Buffalo
Vincent Jackson (TB) vs NY Jets
Greg Jennings (MIN) vs Det
Torrey Smith (BAL) vs Den
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:46 PM   #63
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Chris Ivory vs Bucs
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:31 PM   #64
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Bush
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Jennings (though I can see an argument for Smith here)

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Old 09-04-2013, 06:07 PM   #65
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I wouldn't. Thompkins and Dobson don't offer huge upside this year (in non-PPR), and at best one of these will be your WR3, so I'd keep the highest upside player in Hopkins.

Side note - is this a keeper league, and is it normal to have 8 WR's on a team?

As someone who's real high on Thompkins (I think I ended up with him on every single one of my teams), what's the rationale behind him not having huge upside? That's a team that is missing several of its key contributors from last year, and Brady's still a fantastic QB. I'd think the opportunity is definitely there.

Edit: I still wouldn't do that trade, but curious on the Thompkins thoughts.

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Old 09-04-2013, 09:16 PM   #66
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As someone who's real high on Thompkins (I think I ended up with him on every single one of my teams), what's the rationale behind him not having huge upside? That's a team that is missing several of its key contributors from last year, and Brady's still a fantastic QB. I'd think the opportunity is definitely there.

Edit: I still wouldn't do that trade, but curious on the Thompkins thoughts.
I think people are overselling him and underestimating how many yards/targets Dobson (and even Boyce, Edelman and Amendola) will get. I see him maxing out under 1000 yards, and having multiple games where he doesn't even reach 40 yards. A lot of receptions, so worth it in PPR leagues, and a real good chance of ending up in the 800 yard range, but I don't see him becoming a true WR1/WR2 you can count on each week this year. Since he has 2 pretty sure starters in Marshall and Nelson, and 6 more WR's on his roster for 1 spot, I'd go for boom or bust players, and I could see Hopkins developing into a top 20 WR by the end of the year since Andre Johnson will get all that coverage and they don't really have any 4th option past AJ, Owen Daniels and Hopkins. I see Thompkins having the best season of the 3 rookies on NE, but also having games where Dobson and Boyce see more targets, so I doubt I'd ever really feel confident playing him over a Garcon or Austin. Hopkins might reach that level.

Long-term, Thompkins is 25... Dobson and Boyce are 22. Thompkins is average sized, above-average but not blazing speed, and known for being a great route runner right now, which isn't something that he can really improve. Dobson is 6'3+, great leaping ability and hands, and struggling some with grasping the playbook (although has really improved there after a terrible first minicamp). Now, I've seen enough "athletic specimens" never put it together to assume that Dobson will reach that ceiling, but he's the one that might develop into a top 10 WR worth keeping. Unless you play with some weird keeper rules where you can keep 10 guys, or keep Thompkins at like $2, or a 15th round pick for a few years, I don't see him given a ton of excess long-term value.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:21 PM   #67
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It was a rough draft with 14 teams. I listed Knile Davis as one of my late round picks. He came off the board in Round 10. 2 rounds later than Joique Bell. Anyways, I stuck to the plan (almost) and ended up with this:

1.8 LeSean McCoy
2.7 David Wilson
3.8 Rob Gronkowski
4.7 Tom Brady (run on QB's... would of had nothing when it got back to me)
5.8 Antonio Brown
6.7 Shane Vereen (hard choice between Vereen and Deangelo Williams)
7.8 T.Y. Hilton
8.7 Golden Tate
9.8 Zach Sudfeld
10.7 Seattle D
11.8 Darius Heyward-Bey
12.7 Quinton Patton
13.8 Sam Bradford
14.7 Felix Jones (He was rumored to be the starter as of Monday night. I think alcohol might of had something to do with this pick.)
15.8 Randy Bullock
16.7 Bilal Powell

I'm not happy with the receivers, but feel alright with the rest of the squad. Go Patriots .

McCoy and Wilson were great picks but not a big fan of the rest of your picks, I'd say mediocre from round 3 on
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:13 AM   #68
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Who's the best option for a RB/WR/TE flex in a 0.5 PPR league?

Isaac Redman
Lance Moore
Kyle Rudolph
Reuben Randle (actually took him in case Nicks couldn't go, but Nicks is supposedly healthy).
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:02 AM   #69
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Without looking in depth, Redman or Moore.
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:22 PM   #70
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D. Richardson, Demarco Murray, Torrey Smith, Ryan Matthews (pick 1) in one league. (.3 per REC and per rushing attempt)

D. Richardson, Reggie Bush, Sidney Rice (pick one) in the other. (No PPR)

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Old 09-05-2013, 12:45 PM   #71
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Who's the best option for a RB/WR/TE flex in a 0.5 PPR league?

Isaac Redman
Lance Moore
Kyle Rudolph
Reuben Randle (actually took him in case Nicks couldn't go, but Nicks is supposedly healthy).

I'd probably go Moore. Redman didn't show anything last year.
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:45 PM   #72
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D. Richardson, Demarco Murray, Torrey Smith, Ryan Matthews (pick 1) in one league. (.3 per REC and per rushing attempt)

D. Richardson, Reggie Bush, Sidney Rice (pick one) in the other. (No PPR)

Demarco Murray

Reggie Bush
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:47 PM   #73
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Pick 3 of these 4.

Jordy Nelson, Pierre Garcon, Marques Colston, Hakeem Nicks
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:58 PM   #74
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Hmm.

Reggie Bush or McFadden as my #2 RB this week (no PPR). Indy's supposed to have a pretty dreadful run defense.

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Old 09-05-2013, 01:06 PM   #75
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Hmm.

Reggie Bush or McFadden as my #2 RB this week (no PPR). Indy's supposed to have a pretty dreadful run defense.

Oakland won't be running much Sunday. They'll probably be down 21 by the end of the first quarter.
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:08 PM   #76
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This is true.

This is also why McFadden was available in the very late round.
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Old 09-09-2013, 09:45 AM   #77
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Dare say this is a no brainer. Which always scares me to pull the trigger.

I Get:
Demarius Thomas
Ahmad Bradshaw

They Get:
Darren McFadden
Julius Thomas

For background, my WR's are currently Colston and Boldin. Perfectly good, but I somehow doubt I can count on Boldin going for 200 yards every week. I have Witten as my starting TE, so J Thomas is expendable. Bradshaw is mainly just a throw-in - the waiver wire is weak on RB's. (12 team league - talent is thin)

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Old 09-09-2013, 02:15 PM   #78
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I think you have to take that.
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Old 09-09-2013, 02:22 PM   #79
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Yeah, I'd hit accept before he changes his mind. What's your RB situation minus Run DMC?

Bradshaw's a decent buy low candidate because they're easing him in off the injury and Ballard looked like he was going to get most of the looks moving forward.
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Old 09-09-2013, 02:42 PM   #80
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Forte & Reggie Bush (yeah, I had a good week).

Jocquie Bell & now Bradshaw on the bench. McFadden was nice to have as a decent bench option (up until his inevitable injury), but certainly was surplus. Guy I'm trading with was *reallly* hard up for a RB.

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Old 09-11-2013, 02:36 AM   #81
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So WR is a little thin for me on this team, but I have to start two. I'm considering leaving White on the bench because of the high ankle sprain - apparently he's got a long games started streak and that's the only reason they're trotting him out there. Pick 2:

Roddy White vs. StL
Cecil Shorts @ Oak
Kenbrell Thompkins vs NYJ
Eric Decker @ NYG
TY Hilton vs. Mia

Leaning Shorts and Thompkins right now.
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Old 09-11-2013, 07:59 AM   #82
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I need to start 2 of these four:

TY Hilton vs. MIA, Stevie Johnson vs. CAR, Leonard Hankerson vs. GB, Doug Baldwin vs. SF
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:09 AM   #83
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I need to start 2 of these four:

TY Hilton vs. MIA, Stevie Johnson vs. CAR

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Old 09-11-2013, 07:22 PM   #84
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I need to start 2 of these four:

TY Hilton vs. MIA, Stevie Johnson vs. CAR, Leonard Hankerson vs. GB, Doug Baldwin vs. SF

I'd go with Hankerson and Hilton. Hankerson will likely get some extra targets while the Skins try and keep up with the Green Bay offense, and he looked real good last week, like he is finally coming into his own. Hilton is a dead heat with Stevie Johnson to me, flip a coin on that. I'd stay away from Baldwin this week, S.F. is too good defensively to expect much, I think. He does look like a solid play going forward though, considering the number of targets he got last week.
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Old 09-11-2013, 07:24 PM   #85
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So WR is a little thin for me on this team, but I have to start two. I'm considering leaving White on the bench because of the high ankle sprain - apparently he's got a long games started streak and that's the only reason they're trotting him out there. Pick 2:

Roddy White vs. StL
Cecil Shorts @ Oak
Kenbrell Thompkins vs NYJ
Eric Decker @ NYG
TY Hilton vs. Mia

Leaning Shorts and Thompkins right now.

I like Decker and Hilton. Decker had a bad game last week and has Peyton Manning throwing him the ball with almost no running game to speak of. The game between them and the Giants should be an epic shootout. Hilton barely beats out Thompkins for me because the Jets D is not a D I would mess with. I think New England is going to try and run the ball a ton with Amendola out.

EDIT: With Henne getting a deserved start in Jacksonville, Shorts might be a good play. If it were Gabbert back there, I wouldn't touch anyone on the Jags O.
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Old 09-11-2013, 07:27 PM   #86
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I started Roddy White last week and lost by a point. Do I go with him this week or start DeAndre Hopkins?
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Old 09-11-2013, 08:16 PM   #87
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I'd say Hopkins unless White's prognosis improves through the week.
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Old 09-11-2013, 08:30 PM   #88
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Can Newton vs Buffalo or Palmer vs Detroit?

Need 2

Demarco Murray vs KC
Trent Richardson vs. Baltimore
Alfred Morris vs Green Bay
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Old 09-12-2013, 12:35 AM   #89
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I think Palmer will have to throw more than Cam. I don't see Buffalo as a threat to score too much, even though Manuel looks like a good one in the making. I think Palmer will have to air it out against Detroit, who are a lot more dynamic than they were last season offensively.
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Old 09-12-2013, 08:44 AM   #90
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This is, hopefully, not a question that will make or break my team's success. Still, I've been overthinking it, so I will throw it out there.

As my bench WRs, I have Michael Floyd and Golden Tate.

Is it worth dropping either of those two to pick up Brian Hartline on waivers? Or would that be an over-reaction to week 1?
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:25 AM   #91
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Do I start Roddy White or one of these guys?

Brandon Gibson
Santana Moss
Santonio Holmes
Vincent Brown
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:26 AM   #92
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This is, hopefully, not a question that will make or break my team's success. Still, I've been overthinking it, so I will throw it out there.

As my bench WRs, I have Michael Floyd and Golden Tate.

Is it worth dropping either of those two to pick up Brian Hartline on waivers? Or would that be an over-reaction to week 1?

I don't think you're wrong if you drop Floyd for him. I would keep Tate for now.
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:43 AM   #93
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Do I start Roddy White or one of these guys?

Brandon Gibson
Santana Moss
Santonio Holmes
Vincent Brown

I watched the Saints/Falcons game, and White was a non-factor. It did not look like a case where he didn't put up good numbers, but was thisclose a couple of times. He pretty much wasn't targeted at all. I assume that was b/c the ankle kept him from getting open.

Also, Atlanta has enough weapons that a hobbled White isn't getting the ball. If it were, say, Brandon Marshall or Larry Fitzgerald, I'd say that the team has no choice but to throw it to him 10 times even on one leg. Between Jones, Gonzales, and Jackson, Atlanta has lots of options.

Not sure about which of the four I would replace him with, though.
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:45 AM   #94
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I definitely think he should be benched. The problem is, I don't think I have anyone decent enough to bench him for, at least right now.
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:45 AM   #95
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Old 09-12-2013, 12:57 PM   #96
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Lynch against SF Or
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Old 09-12-2013, 01:05 PM   #97
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I definitely think he should be benched. The problem is, I don't think I have anyone decent enough to bench him for, at least right now.

I would do it for Moss. I would expect Wash to throw it more vs green bay this week. Moss had a decent week last week. Certainly out played Roddy. He had 9 targets last week with 5 catches for 50 some yards.
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Old 09-12-2013, 02:00 PM   #98
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David Wilson, Julius Thomas and Julio Jones for Jimmy Graham, Desean Jackson and Fred Jackson or Ahmad Bradshaw.
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Old 09-12-2013, 02:08 PM   #99
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Trade?

David Wilson, Julius Thomas and Julio Jones for Jimmy Graham, Desean Jackson and Fred Jackson or Ahmad Bradshaw.

whats the rest of your roster look like?
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whats the rest of your roster look like?

STD Yahoo KEEPER league 6pt per TD, .25 pt per yard throwing, 1pt per 10 yards rush/receive

QB - Kaepernick
backups:
EJ Manual
Foles

RB - 2 start

Morris
Reg Bush

FLEX WR or RB

Lacy

Backups
Vereen IR
Wilson
Levon Bell INJ

WR - 2 start

Julio Jones
Randy Cobb

Backup

Kembrell Thompkins

TE - Julius Thomas

Backup

Celek

DEF

Carolina

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