Alright Boyz, 'ere we go... WAAAAAAGGGGHHH!!! (The Blood Bowl Impressions Thread) - Page 10

Honolulu_Blue · 04-15-2014, 04:08 PM

I definitely ended up getting my money's worth in the first one, but... I still find this game to be a major disappointment. I love everything that was "Blood Bowl" about the game, just hated everything Focus/Cyanide did or was asked to do:

The AI for the computer teams was awful. Just awful. Regardless of what race you were playing or what was happening in the game, they just formed the cage and made a bunch of stupid moves.

The lack of customization for your team and players was pretty bad too. There should be a ton of options to better customize your guys.

The match-making system for multi-player was awful. That spinning coin, sitting there waiting for a match to start with no real reason what was happening or why things weren't working.

The way computer teams' games were simulated in a season were a joke as well.

I haven't heard anything to indicate that Blood Bowl 2 will fix the AI problem, which is a shame.

Groundhog · 04-15-2014, 07:29 PM

Given the amount of races and tactics, I think it's more difficult to produce a solid Bloodbowl AI than it is a chess AI. I don't think we'll ever see a single-player experience that can compete with playing folks on FUMBBL.

Having said that, there's no excuse for the AI not knowing the turn count, having dumb skill progression, dodging into 2 tacklezones on it's first action of a turn, etc. I also don't think it's a big ass for teams to have a template style of play - undead/orcs cage and bash, elves pass and run, etc. Every team tries to play the same currently.

SirFozzie · 04-15-2014, 10:56 PM

The graphics may be updated, but the gameplay is going to be a huge step backwards as BBII will only have 8 teams.

Groundhog · 04-16-2014, 12:22 AM

Don't worry, 6 expansion packs later I'm sure they'll all be in there.... What a joke.

Groundhog · 04-16-2014, 12:23 AM

dola

Unless they are working on the race-specific AI, in which case I could understand the staggered release of teams. I highly doubt it, though.

04-15-2014, 04:08 PM	#451
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	I definitely ended up getting my money's worth in the first one, but... I still find this game to be a major disappointment. I love everything that was "Blood Bowl" about the game, just hated everything Focus/Cyanide did or was asked to do: The AI for the computer teams was awful. Just awful. Regardless of what race you were playing or what was happening in the game, they just formed the cage and made a bunch of stupid moves. The lack of customization for your team and players was pretty bad too. There should be a ton of options to better customize your guys. The match-making system for multi-player was awful. That spinning coin, sitting there waiting for a match to start with no real reason what was happening or why things weren't working. The way computer teams' games were simulated in a season were a joke as well. I haven't heard anything to indicate that Blood Bowl 2 will fix the AI problem, which is a shame. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

04-15-2014, 07:29 PM	#452
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Given the amount of races and tactics, I think it's more difficult to produce a solid Bloodbowl AI than it is a chess AI. I don't think we'll ever see a single-player experience that can compete with playing folks on FUMBBL. Having said that, there's no excuse for the AI not knowing the turn count, having dumb skill progression, dodging into 2 tacklezones on it's first action of a turn, etc. I also don't think it's a big ass for teams to have a template style of play - undead/orcs cage and bash, elves pass and run, etc. Every team tries to play the same currently. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

04-15-2014, 10:56 PM	#453
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	The graphics may be updated, but the gameplay is going to be a huge step backwards as BBII will only have 8 teams. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

04-16-2014, 12:22 AM	#454
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Don't worry, 6 expansion packs later I'm sure they'll all be in there.... What a joke. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

04-16-2014, 12:23 AM	#455
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	dola Unless they are working on the race-specific AI, in which case I could understand the staggered release of teams. I highly doubt it, though. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

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