2014 FIFA World Cup - Page 36

cartman · 06-24-2014, 12:18 PM

Ooh, straight red for Marchisio of Italy. That makes things very interesting.

Easy Mac · 06-24-2014, 12:19 PM

oh wow. Italy are going to have an uphill climb now.

MIJB#19 · 06-24-2014, 12:19 PM

"But I was just semi-nasty!"

MIJB#19 · 06-24-2014, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

oh wow. Italy are going to have an uphill climb now.

Nah, 0-0 means they're still in the lead.

flere-imsaho · 06-24-2014, 12:20 PM

Ignore the mis-spelling:

Easy Mac · 06-24-2014, 12:21 PM

Playing the doom and gloom for the USA, if we go out on Thursday, it could be argued Ghana had the better tournament anyway.

They would have beaten Portugal where we tied them.

They would have tied Germany where we lose to them.

And they completely outplayed us.

The US can say, "If it wasn't for the last 30 seconds against Portugal..." But Ghana could just as easily say "If it wasn't for the first 30 seconds against the US..."

flere-imsaho · 06-24-2014, 12:26 PM

Picking up on a previous thread of conversation, the Guardian over the winter did a series of articles on the death of grassroots football in England and it could be argued this is a major reason why England aren't as good as you'd think they'd be - kids are just leaving the sport. Some selected articles:

Grassroots football in crisis due to bad weather and poor facilities | Football | The Guardian
Grassroots football in England: abuse, death threats and withering numbers | Andy Hunter | Football | The Guardian
High time the game dealt with crisis in adult grassroots football | Owen Gibson | Football | The Guardian
Grassroots football on Merseyside – in pictures | Football | theguardian.com

Conversely, I would say the opposite is happening in the U.S., where soccer still does "suffer" from talent lost to the bigger sports, but grassroots has been growing consistently for some time now.

DaddyTorgo · 06-24-2014, 12:27 PM

FUCKING MARCHISIO...ugh

cartman · 06-24-2014, 12:31 PM

Fun Italian fact:

Immobile doesn't mean 'not mobile', it is Italian for 'real estate'.

Galaxy · 06-24-2014, 12:33 PM

Come on Uruguay...notch one in the net.

DaddyTorgo · 06-24-2014, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman

Fun Italian fact:

Immobile doesn't mean 'not mobile', it is Italian for 'real estate'.

For the capocannonieri he didn't play particularly well, you're quite right.

DaddyTorgo · 06-24-2014, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Come on Uruguay...notch one in the net.

NO. I WILL KEEL YOU

JPhillips · 06-24-2014, 12:34 PM

This Italian performance is everything I hate about soccer.

BishopMVP · 06-24-2014, 12:34 PM

I hope the ref adds like 7 minutes of stoppage time.

DaddyTorgo · 06-24-2014, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

I hope the ref adds like 7 minutes of stoppage time.

Not pretty - I quite agree.

Aside from the win over England Italy haven't really played with any emotion or urgency in of the past two games.

SirFozzie · 06-24-2014, 12:37 PM

Italy deserves to go out, between nastiness, playacting and just plan negative football.

flere-imsaho · 06-24-2014, 12:37 PM

England have yet to have a shot on target, apparently.

cartman · 06-24-2014, 12:38 PM

Suarez is lucky to not get a red there.

bhlloy · 06-24-2014, 12:38 PM

Suarez looks like he just bit someone again. If that's the case, ban the fucker for life.

MIJB#19 · 06-24-2014, 12:38 PM

Crazy Suarez reporting for duty...

AlexB · 06-24-2014, 12:39 PM

Might be right: can't remember one, but tbh the game hasn't held my attention, shall we say

SirFozzie · 06-24-2014, 12:39 PM

if that was what I think.. Suarez is done for a while. At MINIMUM a headbutt, possibly a bite.

DaddyTorgo · 06-24-2014, 12:39 PM

Did Suarez bite him? I want to see a replay....

Sure fucking looks like. How bout a fucking call ref!

Fucking ridiculous. Nobody saw that!?!?

Galaxy · 06-24-2014, 12:39 PM

kingfc22 · 06-24-2014, 12:40 PM

What the fuck is Suarez's problem?!

cartman · 06-24-2014, 12:40 PM

Goal for Uruguay!

DaddyTorgo · 06-24-2014, 12:40 PM

Galaxy · 06-24-2014, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

What the fuck is Suarez's problem?!

He likes to get kinky?

(But, yeah, he should be banned.)

bhlloy · 06-24-2014, 12:40 PM

Wait, we're celebrating a Uruguay goal after what we just saw (and what happened the last world cup)?

Solecismic · 06-24-2014, 12:40 PM

It would be funny if the referee forgot all the extra time he's probably added for all of Italy's flopping.

And no, I don't think he bit him, but I think he tried to bite him.

JPhillips · 06-24-2014, 12:41 PM

Such a shame that one of these teams will move on. After today they both deserve to go home.

Karlifornia · 06-24-2014, 12:41 PM

Can't believe Suarez bit someone again. I don't know who I dislike more...dirty Suarez or dirty italians

flere-imsaho · 06-24-2014, 12:41 PM

Oh Luis Suarez, never change.

BishopMVP · 06-24-2014, 12:41 PM

I take it back. Let's go 0 minutes of stoppage time.

And I'm certainly not going to defend whatever Suarez did, but let's not ignore Chiellini's backhand/elbow to the face in response.

DaddyTorgo · 06-24-2014, 12:42 PM

Great, now the US can find a way to lose on Friday and get knocked out and I officially won't give two fucks who wins.

bhlloy · 06-24-2014, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Such a shame that one of these teams will move on. After today they both deserve to go home.

Yup. I'll settle for Suarez getting a 20 game ban but FIFA probably won't have the balls to give him anything

DaddyTorgo · 06-24-2014, 12:43 PM

I'm done with this thread at least until Thursday or I have a feeling I'll end up boxed/banned/pissing a lot of people off.

Radii · 06-24-2014, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Wait, we're celebrating a Uruguay goal after what we just saw (and what happened the last world cup)?

Yes. Every minute of watching Italy play since I started following things in 1998 has built up an awful lot of dislike and easily trumps Suarez being awful. Go Uruguay.

SirFozzie · 06-24-2014, 12:44 PM

Italian coach sent to the stands for getting in the Uruguayan coach's face.

MIJB#19 · 06-24-2014, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Such a shame that one of these teams will move on. After today they both deserve to go home.

My thoughts exactly.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 06-24-2014, 12:45 PM

Crazy to see the exits.

Spain.....out.
England.....out.
Italy.....likely out.
Portugal.....likely out.

Not sure you could have guessed any of those before group play outside of maybe Portugal. Lots of fun to see the Euro teams getting sent home!

Chief Rum · 06-24-2014, 12:46 PM

Not going to miss Italy if this plays out this way.

MIJB#19 · 06-24-2014, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Yup. I'll settle for Suarez getting a 20 game ban but FIFA probably won't have the balls to give him anything

I have little faith in FIFA, but there's no way they can ignore this incident.

Chief Rum · 06-24-2014, 12:48 PM

So can someone give me a blow by blow? Listening to the match instead of watching and I think ESPN radio is behind you guys by 5-10 minutes. What did Suarez do?

MIJB#19 · 06-24-2014, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Crazy to see the exits.

Spain.....out.
England.....out.
Italy.....likely out.
Portugal.....likely out.

Not sure you could have guessed any of those before group play outside of maybe Portugal. Lots of fun to see the Euro teams getting sent home!

England is hardly a surprise, their first round exit is as expected. Spain and Portugal were/are stuck in the other two tough groups, but I do agree their exits are/will be unexpected.

SirFozzie · 06-24-2014, 12:49 PM

doesn't LOOK like Suarez bit him from this angle. Definitely a headbutt though

Blackadar · 06-24-2014, 12:50 PM

I guess Suarez was hungry for a goal.

AlexB · 06-24-2014, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Crazy to see the exits.

Spain.....out.
England.....out.
Italy.....likely out.
Portugal.....likely out.

Not sure you could have guessed any of those before group play outside of maybe Portugal. Lots of fun to see the Euro teams getting sent home!

As an England fan I always thought that we were third favourite in our group. Turns out I was one out!

But honestly we were underdogs to Italy and Uruguay in most peoples eyes until about two or three weeks before the start of the WC, when people forgot their sensible assessments and started getting carried away again

ColtCrazy · 06-24-2014, 12:50 PM

Can't stand Suarez so by association I can't stand Uruguay. I hate Italy with a passion, but I'd rather see them advance.

I'm not surprised England got sent home. There weren't a ton of expectations on them. The others, yeah, a bit surprised. I generally like northern European teams (England, Dutch, Germany, Belgium) and at least most of them a representing well.

I have little faith in FIFA too but if Suarez is allowed to continue to suit up then this is just a complete farce.

MIJB#19 · 06-24-2014, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

So can someone give me a blow by blow? Listening to the match instead of watching and I think ESPN radio is behind you guys by 5-10 minutes. What did Suarez do?

He bit Chiellino in his shoulder. Chiellini clearly didn't like it and elbowed Suarez in response. The referee and assistants missed it completely.

06-24-2014, 12:18 PM	#1751
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Ooh, straight red for Marchisio of Italy. That makes things very interesting. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint Last edited by cartman : 06-24-2014 at 12:18 PM.

06-24-2014, 12:19 PM	#1753
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	"But I was just semi-nasty!" __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

06-24-2014, 12:31 PM	#1759
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Fun Italian fact: Immobile doesn't mean 'not mobile', it is Italian for 'real estate'. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

06-24-2014, 12:34 PM	#1763
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	This Italian performance is everything I hate about soccer. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

06-24-2014, 12:37 PM	#1766
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Italy deserves to go out, between nastiness, playacting and just plan negative football. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

06-24-2014, 12:19 PM	#1752
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	oh wow. Italy are going to have an uphill climb now.

06-24-2014, 12:20 PM	#1755
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Ignore the mis-spelling:

06-24-2014, 12:21 PM	#1756
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Playing the doom and gloom for the USA, if we go out on Thursday, it could be argued Ghana had the better tournament anyway. They would have beaten Portugal where we tied them. They would have tied Germany where we lose to them. And they completely outplayed us. The US can say, "If it wasn't for the last 30 seconds against Portugal..." But Ghana could just as easily say "If it wasn't for the first 30 seconds against the US..."

06-24-2014, 12:26 PM	#1757
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Picking up on a previous thread of conversation, the Guardian over the winter did a series of articles on the death of grassroots football in England and it could be argued this is a major reason why England aren't as good as you'd think they'd be - kids are just leaving the sport. Some selected articles: Grassroots football in crisis due to bad weather and poor facilities \| Football \| The Guardian Grassroots football in England: abuse, death threats and withering numbers \| Andy Hunter \| Football \| The Guardian High time the game dealt with crisis in adult grassroots football \| Owen Gibson \| Football \| The Guardian Grassroots football on Merseyside – in pictures \| Football \| theguardian.com Conversely, I would say the opposite is happening in the U.S., where soccer still does "suffer" from talent lost to the bigger sports, but grassroots has been growing consistently for some time now.

06-24-2014, 12:27 PM	#1758
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	FUCKING MARCHISIO...ugh

06-24-2014, 12:33 PM	#1760
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Come on Uruguay...notch one in the net.

06-24-2014, 12:34 PM	#1764
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	I hope the ref adds like 7 minutes of stoppage time.

06-24-2014, 12:37 PM	#1767
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	England have yet to have a shot on target, apparently.

06-24-2014, 12:38 PM	#1768
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Suarez is lucky to not get a red there. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

06-24-2014, 12:38 PM	#1769
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Suarez looks like he just bit someone again. If that's the case, ban the fucker for life.

06-24-2014, 12:38 PM	#1770
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Crazy Suarez reporting for duty... __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

06-24-2014, 12:39 PM	#1771
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	Might be right: can't remember one, but tbh the game hasn't held my attention, shall we say __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports!

06-24-2014, 12:39 PM	#1772
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	if that was what I think.. Suarez is done for a while. At MINIMUM a headbutt, possibly a bite. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

06-24-2014, 12:39 PM	#1773
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Did Suarez bite him? I want to see a replay.... Sure fucking looks like. How bout a fucking call ref! Fucking ridiculous. Nobody saw that!?!? Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 06-24-2014 at 12:40 PM.

06-24-2014, 12:39 PM	#1774
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	YES!

06-24-2014, 12:40 PM	#1775
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	What the fuck is Suarez's problem?! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-24-2014, 12:40 PM	#1776
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Goal for Uruguay! __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

06-24-2014, 12:40 PM	#1777
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	FML

06-24-2014, 12:40 PM	#1779
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Wait, we're celebrating a Uruguay goal after what we just saw (and what happened the last world cup)?

06-24-2014, 12:40 PM	#1780
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	It would be funny if the referee forgot all the extra time he's probably added for all of Italy's flopping. And no, I don't think he bit him, but I think he tried to bite him. Last edited by Solecismic : 06-24-2014 at 12:41 PM.

06-24-2014, 12:41 PM	#1781
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Such a shame that one of these teams will move on. After today they both deserve to go home. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

06-24-2014, 12:41 PM	#1782
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Can't believe Suarez bit someone again. I don't know who I dislike more...dirty Suarez or dirty italians __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

06-24-2014, 12:41 PM	#1783
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Oh Luis Suarez, never change.

06-24-2014, 12:41 PM	#1784
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	I take it back. Let's go 0 minutes of stoppage time. And I'm certainly not going to defend whatever Suarez did, but let's not ignore Chiellini's backhand/elbow to the face in response.

06-24-2014, 12:42 PM	#1785
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Great, now the US can find a way to lose on Friday and get knocked out and I officially won't give two fucks who wins.

06-24-2014, 12:43 PM	#1787
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I'm done with this thread at least until Thursday or I have a feeling I'll end up boxed/banned/pissing a lot of people off. Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 06-24-2014 at 12:43 PM.

06-24-2014, 12:44 PM	#1789
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Italian coach sent to the stands for getting in the Uruguayan coach's face. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

06-24-2014, 12:45 PM	#1791
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Crazy to see the exits. Spain.....out. England.....out. Italy.....likely out. Portugal.....likely out. Not sure you could have guessed any of those before group play outside of maybe Portugal. Lots of fun to see the Euro teams getting sent home!

06-24-2014, 12:46 PM	#1792
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Not going to miss Italy if this plays out this way. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

06-24-2014, 12:48 PM	#1794
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	So can someone give me a blow by blow? Listening to the match instead of watching and I think ESPN radio is behind you guys by 5-10 minutes. What did Suarez do? __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready. Last edited by Chief Rum : 06-24-2014 at 12:49 PM.