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Old 07-30-2014, 06:50 PM   #1
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Any tech guru want to help solve?

I need a definitive, non-guess answer about what I need to do here.



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Old 07-30-2014, 08:01 PM   #2
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Old 07-30-2014, 08:27 PM   #3
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Im looking on a relatively small screen.

Are you asking about the black "triangles" at the bottom of the screen?
Or something that is on the screen that I cant see.

Also laptop or monitor??
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Old 07-30-2014, 08:46 PM   #4
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Yes and laptop.
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Old 07-30-2014, 08:53 PM   #5
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Old 07-30-2014, 08:54 PM   #6
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LCD screen is bad.
You can replace screen only..may last as is for a long while
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Old 07-30-2014, 09:00 PM   #7
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Looks to me like the LCD backlight is going out.
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Old 07-30-2014, 09:08 PM   #8
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I've read about this. You appear to have a shark in your monitor.
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Old 07-30-2014, 09:22 PM   #9
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LCD screen is bad.
You can replace screen only..may last as is for a long while

I read this response in a couple of places and saw it disputed. How can I be certain that the entire screen needs replacing and it isn't just something that has dislodged, etc.? How certain are you of this answer?
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Old 07-30-2014, 09:30 PM   #10
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That right there looks like an excuse to just go get a bigger monitor.
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Old 07-30-2014, 09:33 PM   #11
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It's a laptop.
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Old 07-30-2014, 09:49 PM   #12
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I read this response in a couple of places and saw it disputed. How can I be certain that the entire screen needs replacing and it isn't just something that has dislodged, etc.? How certain are you of this answer?

How certain?
Well I'm working with 1 pic and a very brief description...I'd say 80+% certain.

"Dislodged"...I just can't imagine what would become dislodged to cause that.

Here would be the 100% certain answer. Does it ever go away? I.E when you power it on from a cold off is it clean for a very few seconds (I actually suspect it probably is...) if so then its 99.99% certain the LCD.

If the pattern ever dances up the screen or dramatically changes then its more likely a driver issues (and I mean driver in the sense of the PCB that feeds the signal to the screen...not the software drivers that need updating) and the screen is displaying what is being sent to it.

Finally if it NEVER clears up and hasn't grown any in an extended period of time ...then that is where there is some wiggle between my 80 and 99..



[Note I am using experience with Larger screens, specifically TVs and applying them to a laptop screen. Ive seen the issue 100+ times in TVs...but am no laptop expert]
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Old 07-30-2014, 10:06 PM   #13
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No, there is 100% never any change in this pattern. Another person trying to help me called it "blacklight bleed" which I'm not certain about. He seemed to think *maybe* if I opened it up I could re-glue it or something?

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Old 07-30-2014, 10:57 PM   #14
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Like myself and CU Tiger said.. it's the LCD (backlight is going out)

LED backlight has a dark pattern on bottom edge of the screen? - MacBook Pro 15" Core 2 Duo Models A1226 and A1260 - iFixit
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Old 07-30-2014, 10:58 PM   #15
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Oh and I buy mine here and replace myself.. not that hard at all.

Laptop Screens
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Old 07-31-2014, 12:23 AM   #16
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Yes, I saw that thread. There was some disagreement about what the problem was in the comments there and there are other places that give different opinions, too.

Additionally, the description of the problem doesn't match mine:
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"I've noticed that restarting the computer fixes it temporarily (not always though). I've also noticed the backlight flickering a little bit, and then having the dark spots either go away or come back."
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Mine does not match that at all. Mine never changes.

I need to be absolutely certain before I replace the entire screen.

I appreciate the link. Most sites I had looked at did not have my particular screen, but it looks like that one does, though it would be nice if it had a price listed.

edit: actually that one doesn't have it either. Wholesale only. I would have to buy 10 screens. I'm not sure replacing my whole screen is even an option at this point.

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Old 07-31-2014, 05:59 AM   #17
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It's a laptop.

Sorry, missed that the first time. Carry on and good luck.
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Old 07-31-2014, 07:05 AM   #18
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Yes, I saw that thread. There was some disagreement about what the problem was in the comments there and there are other places that give different opinions, too.

Additionally, the description of the problem doesn't match mine:
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"I've noticed that restarting the computer fixes it temporarily (not always though). I've also noticed the backlight flickering a little bit, and then having the dark spots either go away or come back."
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Mine does not match that at all. Mine never changes.

I need to be absolutely certain before I replace the entire screen.

I appreciate the link. Most sites I had looked at did not have my particular screen, but it looks like that one does, though it would be nice if it had a price listed.

edit: actually that one doesn't have it either. Wholesale only. I would have to buy 10 screens. I'm not sure replacing my whole screen is even an option at this point.

If you connect to an external monitor and it works fine, it's the LCD. If you get the same display, it's the video card (system board).

What is the make/model of the pc?
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:10 AM   #19
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Right, it's definitely something with the display (external output is fine, so it's not the video card). I'm trying to find out if it's something like the backlight or the inverter or something that's come loose that can be put back in place, etc.

It's a Dell Studio 1535 with 1440x900.
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:38 PM   #20
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Here is a video that shows you how to replace the LCD, you could open it up and check the wires/connections. I think eventually though.. you'll need to purchase an LCD.



Here is one for $90

Refurbished Studio 1535 1536 1537 LCD Screen W414J

Couple for around $70

Screen for Dell STUDIO 1535. Replacement Laptop LCD Screens
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:52 PM   #21
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I'm sure eventually all screens die, sure. Just hoping someone can tell me definitively what I need to do with this current problem. Thanks for the links. Not sure how to tell what kind of backlight I have in order to pick out the proper screen.

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Old 07-31-2014, 02:21 PM   #22
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I'm sure eventually all screens die, sure. Just hoping someone can tell me definitively what I need to do with this current problem. Thanks for the links. Not sure how to tell what kind of backlight I have in order to pick out the proper screen.

Just pick the correct resolution (the two at the bottom).

Quit being stubborn, replace the LCD.
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Old 07-31-2014, 02:30 PM   #23
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I have to know if my backlight is LED or CCFL I thought.

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Old 07-31-2014, 03:17 PM   #24
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My owner's manual lists both as a possibility. I really don't want to take this thing apart just to find out. :/
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Old 07-31-2014, 03:39 PM   #25
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I have to know if my backlight is LED or CCFL I thought.

There is no CCFL option on that 2nd website for your resolution, so I would say it's LED.

Give me your s/n and I might be able to get that info from Dell's website.
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Old 07-31-2014, 04:08 PM   #26
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I don't know where to get the s/n but I can give you the express service code?

34767126541
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Old 07-31-2014, 05:09 PM   #27
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I don't know where to get the s/n but I can give you the express service code?

34767126541

Yes.. forgot Dell s/n = service code

Brand: Dell
Screen: FM041 Laptop Screen
Size: 15.4"
Resolution: (1440 x 900) WXGA+
Backlight: LED
Surface: Glossy (a.k.a. TrueLife™)
Aspect Ratio: Wide (16:10)
Screen Type: Thin-film transistor (TFT) Active-matrix Liquid Crystal Display (LCD)
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Old 07-31-2014, 05:51 PM   #28
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Nice, thanks.
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