Ohio State / Michigan - Page 2

RendeR · 11-22-2003, 03:09 PM

man Krenzel might be banged up but he's played like complete shit today. he hits a couple of those long shots they took to wide open recievers and this game is much tighter, kudos to the Buckeyes for staying as close as they are though, they coulda rolled over and given up at 28-7, but they showed some heart and are still crackin on them.

Solecismic · 11-22-2003, 03:12 PM

I'm looking forward to Gutierrez/Breaston next season. Still holding my breath on this one. I've never had much confidence in Navarre, and we're going to see a run stack now.

Calis · 11-22-2003, 03:12 PM

Maybe I have a bad memory, but wasn't there a lot of talk about how Perry couldn't do anything against a real defense?

Anyway, he's impressed me today. The guy just looks like he's dying after every play though, he could possibly suffer from Eddie George syndrome before his college career ends.

Solecismic · 11-22-2003, 03:16 PM

Did you see him when he carried 51 times against Michigan State. Halfway through that one, he looked half-dead. But he kept on taking the ball.

Krenzel looked more like a pro quarterback than Navarre until that last possession. He's obviously still in pain, but he's still their best bet.

Calis · 11-22-2003, 03:20 PM

Yeah, I mean don't get me wrong. The kid is showing a helluva lot of heart, he just keeps on trucking.

I actually feel bad for him though, especially after the MSU game, I know they had to do what they had to do to win, but man...I just feel bad seeing a kid taking that much of a pounding. Afraid it will catch up to him way too soon.

He's one tough sucka though, give him that.

Easy Mac · 11-22-2003, 03:28 PM

INT... game

Solecismic · 11-22-2003, 03:28 PM

Phew. Great to get a W in this series. OSU is always tough.

JeeberD · 11-22-2003, 03:34 PM

Good to see OSU go down. Now USC should get their chance...

mckerney · 11-22-2003, 03:35 PM

Good to see a team like Michigan beat a program like Ohio State.

Plus we hopefully don't have to deal with a vastly overrated team making it to the BCS.

DeToxRox · 11-22-2003, 03:35 PM

Whatagame.

Well, Shorty, time to announce that Perry won the game.

SnowMan · 11-22-2003, 03:38 PM

Yay for USC.

ice4277 · 11-22-2003, 03:44 PM

all i can say is

Go Blue!

cthomer5000 · 11-22-2003, 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by Solecismic
They completely let down after that holding call. I'm still seeing it through biased eyes. Was it a good call?

Perry is something else.

The holding call was legit. He had a chokehold on the DE.

I'm glad that it didn't matter, and glad that THE most overrated football team in the nation will not be making another trip to the title game.

VPI97 · 11-22-2003, 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by cthomer5000
THE most overrated football team in the nation

Hahaha!

Good call.

Ksyrup · 11-22-2003, 04:23 PM

I'm glad the game turned out the way it should have. Michigan had to play poorly to lose its two games this year; OSU had to play well just to win several games this year. This is about what I expected, although take away the holding call (it was definitely legit) and at 35-7, this game would have been even more fun to watch.

TroyF · 11-22-2003, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by Noop
Just wait till TroyF see's this thread. He'll make a big essay about how Ohio State will and Michigan is setting themselves up for failure. Then he'll bring the Miami-Ohio State as his proof he was right.

I'm not sure how to respond to this.

Are you still pissed that I called the Ohio State/Miami game last year when many people on the board were saying it would be a 5 TD rout?

Have you read ANYTHING I've written about Ohio State this year? Just so you know, I've said sinse before the Wisconsin game that this Ohio State team was different than last years version. I expected them to lose 3 to 4 Big10 games this year. They proved me wrong and only finished with two losses.

I ask only one thing if you are going to call me out on a bad prediction. . . make it something I really said.

TroyF

Balldog · 11-22-2003, 05:51 PM

All I have to say is wow! Michigan has a damn good football team and I would be surprised if they couldn't give Oklahoma or USC a game. Chris Perry is unreal.

mckerney · 11-22-2003, 05:53 PM

USC - probably
Oklahoma - no

The Afoci · 11-22-2003, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by Balldog
All I have to say is wow! Michigan has a damn good football team and I would be surprised if they couldn't give Oklahoma or USC a game. Chris Perry is unreal.

This is also a squad that got incredibly lucky against Minnesota. They gave up close to or over 400 yards rushing to them.

Noop · 11-22-2003, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by TroyF
I'm not sure how to respond to this.

Are you still pissed that I called the Ohio State/Miami game last year when many people on the board were saying it would be a 5 TD rout?

Have you read ANYTHING I've written about Ohio State this year? Just so you know, I've said sinse before the Wisconsin game that this Ohio State team was different than last years version. I expected them to lose 3 to 4 Big10 games this year. They proved me wrong and only finished with two losses.

I ask only one thing if you are going to call me out on a bad prediction. . . make it something I really said.

TroyF

Sure guy

TroyF your the smartest guy on this board when it comes to college football. You are never wrong... all hail Troy for he is the be all of college football.

.....seriously I was just joking because you usually post in every college football post.

noop

ice4277 · 11-22-2003, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by The Afoci
This is also a squad that got incredibly lucky against Minnesota. They gave up close to or over 400 yards rushing to them.

Is coming back from a 24-point deficit in the 4th quarter lucky? If so I would take that luck any day.

TroyF · 11-22-2003, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by Noop
Sure guy TroyF your the smartest guy on this board when it comes to college football. You are never wrong... all hail Troy for he is the be all of college football. .....seriously I was just joking because you usually post in every college football post.

noop

I reply in most of the college football posts because I like the sport and love discussing it.

The rest of your drivel doens't deserve a response.

TroyF

DeToxRox · 11-22-2003, 07:19 PM

Where are all these OSU fans at now, after the game?

Don't be those guys.

TroyF · 11-22-2003, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle
Where are all these OSU fans at now, after the game?

Don't be those guys.

They just lost to their arch rivals in a game that cost them a chance to be in the national championship game. . . give em some time.

TroyF

Balldog · 11-22-2003, 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle
Where are all these OSU fans at now, after the game?

Don't be those guys.

I'm here, we got our asses kicked today.

The Afoci · 11-22-2003, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by ice4277
Is coming back from a 24-point deficit in the 4th quarter lucky? If so I would take that luck any day.

I watched that game and Minnesota dominated them for three quarters and lost. Michigan definately earned the victory, don't get me wrong. What I was saying is that Minnesota is an average to slightly above average squad, and they were able to push Michigan around so I doubt they would give OU much of a game.

Leonidas · 11-22-2003, 08:52 PM

Time to face the music. Congrats to UM, they played a great game today. I hope they do the Big-10 proud in Pasadena and administer a black and blue ass whippin in true B10 style to whomever they play. Also, many, many kudos to Chris Perry. He was a MAN today.

As for my Buckeyes, I am proud of the fact they didn't fold and stood up and made UM earn it when they were down 28-7. I think Jim Tressel has a lot to do with that. Under John Cooper this would have ended up 49-7. I was also greatly diassappointed in the D effort. If they could have just tackled this might have been different. I can't recall a single time where the first man hitting Perry actually brought him down.

Hopefully OSU, with their fan loyalty and virtual guarantee of a sellout wherever they play, can get a shot at the Orange or Fiesta Bowls. You all may have to tolerate another OSU-Miami game or even OSU-FSU. Either way, I like our chances. Good luck Michigan, GO BUCKS!

Honolulu_Blue · 11-22-2003, 10:28 PM

Well done on both sides. Michigan was clearly the better team. They basically moved the ball at will. There was a severe lack of concentration in the 3rd quarter when the game was 28-7 and 28-14. But as soon as it was within in touchdown, Michigan moved the ball down the field with ease and scored a touchdown.

Michigan's best players were the best today: Perry, Edwards, Breaston, etc.

A solid game alll around.

GO BLUE!!!!

HAIL TO THE VICTORS VALIANT!
HAIL TO THE CONQUERING HEROES!
HAIL! HAIL! TO MICHIGAN!

Radii · 11-22-2003, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by Honolulu_Blue
If this is not the biggest rivalry of any sports then, what is?

1. Big, important games. Not just to the teams playing, but for the rest of the sport (play-off games, national title on the line, etc.)

2. Two teams near the top of their sport. Rivalries are their best when both teams are considered good or "great" teams. This will likely hit some peaks and valleys, but should, for the most part, be consistent.

3. The games are mainly competitive. A rivalry definitely loses some of its lustre if one team is always the favorite.

4. The teams play each other "often" (this is relative depending on the sport). Familiarity breeds contempt.

Duke/UNC Basketball.

Calis · 11-22-2003, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by Honolulu_Blue
If this is not the biggest rivalry of any sports then, what is?

1. Big, important games. Not just to the teams playing, but for the rest of the sport (play-off games, national title on the line, etc.)

2. Two teams near the top of their sport. Rivalries are their best when both teams are considered good or "great" teams. This will likely hit some peaks and valleys, but should, for the most part, be consistent.

3. The games are mainly competitive. A rivalry definitely loses some of its lustre if one team is always the favorite.

4. The teams play each other "often" (this is relative depending on the sport). Familiarity breeds contempt.

Celtic and Rangers!

Honolulu_Blue · 11-22-2003, 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by Radii
Duke/UNC Basketball.

Yeah, but college basketball is boring.

Besides, everything is decided in the tournament, regardless of what happens in the regular season. Hence, the game has less meaning.

Sorry.

mckerney · 11-22-2003, 10:57 PM

Not even the biggest rivalry in college football, much less all of sports.

hollmt · 11-22-2003, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle
Where are all these OSU fans at now, after the game?

Don't be those guys.

Oh, we are here. some of us were at work crying like a little baby for a little bit after the game and stomping our feet as well. I wont name any names though...

gracious in defeat, but overrated OSU is still not.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-22-2003, 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by mckerney
Not even the biggest rivalry in college football, much less all of sports.

Really?

Look forward to your retort, sir....

tucker342 · 11-23-2003, 12:01 AM

Congrats to Michigan! It's good to see Ohio State lose

It feels good to be the only team in the Big Ten that beat Michigan

Kodos · 11-23-2003, 01:22 AM

This game made me happy. Thank you Michigan, but now I go back to disliking you.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-23-2003, 04:55 AM

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Originally posted by Kodos
This game made me happy. Thank you Michigan, but now I go back to disliking you.

We appreciate your support. Now, you can f*ck off.

Butter · 11-24-2003, 12:23 PM

Again, congrats to UM for whipping the Bucks up front, all day long.

No pressure on Navarre + Chris Perry for 150 yards = UM in Rose Bowl.

It's well deserved. Unlike most of the Buckeye fans around here, I think USC deserved to be in the Sugar Bowl more than Ohio State, and now they will get that chance (provided the BCS doesn't screw them and they don't screw themselves vs. the Beavers).

That being said, I don't understand why so many here were rooting against Ohio St. Many other college programs have had just as many (if not more) disciplinary problems than the Bucks this year, and Ohio St. is not a program out of control. It seemed like where most people rooted for Ohio St. last year, this year they were the villains. Just confusing to me. Oh well, like or dislike whoever you want. I know all the Buckeye fans here will be watching with me and rooting for them in the Orange Bowl.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-24-2003, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by Butter_of_69
Again, congrats to UM for whipping the Bucks up front, all day long.

No pressure on Navarre + Chris Perry for 150 yards = UM in Rose Bowl.

It's well deserved. Unlike most of the Buckeye fans around here, I think USC deserved to be in the Sugar Bowl more than Ohio State, and now they will get that chance (provided the BCS doesn't screw them and they don't screw themselves vs. the Beavers).

That being said, I don't understand why so many here were rooting against Ohio St. Many other college programs have had just as many (if not more) disciplinary problems than the Bucks this year, and Ohio St. is not a program out of control. It seemed like where most people rooted for Ohio St. last year, this year they were the villains. Just confusing to me. Oh well, like or dislike whoever you want. I know all the Buckeye fans here will be watching with me and rooting for them in the Orange Bowl.

I can't help it. I just hate them because I was born that way (and then went to UofM for 7 years). But, I can sympathize, they are a hateable team if there ever was one.

But...

NOW, the hate is over. No more hate until around July/August of next year. No bitter taste of defeat, only the smell of roses in the air.

An interesting fact I noticed while reading about the game:

Ohio State's schedule was heavy on spread offenses throughout the season - Washington, San Diego State, Bowling Green, North Carolina State, Northwestern, Michigan State and Purdue.

I think this goes a long way explaining why OSU's defense was ranked #1 against the run coming into this game. None of those teams run the ball. The only teams who did... Wisonsin and Michigan.

Butter · 11-24-2003, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by Honolulu_Blue
Ohio State's schedule was heavy on spread offenses throughout the season - Washington, San Diego State, Bowling Green, North Carolina State, Northwestern, Michigan State and Purdue.

I think this goes a long way explaining why OSU's defense was ranked #1 against the run coming into this game. None of those teams run the ball. The only teams who did... Wisonsin and Michigan.

You're the only person I've really heard bring this up. I knew it. Most of my friends knew it. We played a LOT of spread teams this year. When we had to stop the run against UW (Booker Stanley sealed the game... ugh) and UM, we couldn't do it. I do think that OSU's defense was a very good bunch, but their stats were helped a lot by facing predominantly passing teams all year.

mckerney · 11-24-2003, 01:38 PM

OSU = Lucky they didn't play the Gophers.

Butter · 11-24-2003, 01:40 PM

Yeah, that Glen Mason really knows how to come through in the big games.

Craptacular · 11-24-2003, 10:33 PM

I'm guessing he was simply highlighting the fact that the Rodents averaged 293 yards/game rushing (#2 in the country). They have two tailbacks with at least 990 yards, and they average 6.1 and 6.7 ypc. Yikes!

tucker342 · 11-25-2003, 12:43 AM

butter, I've always hated OSU. I don't really know why, I just do. They're probably my least favorite football team in the Big Ten. Even more so then Wisconsin and Minnesota

.

The last two years I've really started to hate them because:
1) Iowa has started to become really good, and when your team is good, you have to hate the other good teams in conference.
2) I can't stand the way they win(and play) it's usually effective but it's really, really annoying. The even though you play like shit every single week, you still find some way to win.

But now, since the season is over, I'm a Big Ten conference fan, and I hope that all the Big Ten teams(even Ohio State) win their bowl games!

mckerney · 11-25-2003, 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by Butter_of_69
Yeah, that Glen Mason really knows how to come through in the big games.

See college football forum.

You're preaching to the choir if you're telling me Mason is vastly inadaquate.

That said, the Gophers would have run all over OSU.

11-22-2003, 03:34 PM	#58
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Good to see OSU go down. Now USC should get their chance... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

11-22-2003, 03:35 PM	#59
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Good to see a team like Michigan beat a program like Ohio State. Plus we hopefully don't have to deal with a vastly overrated team making it to the BCS. Last edited by mckerney : 11-22-2003 at 03:37 PM.

11-22-2003, 04:23 PM	#65
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I'm glad the game turned out the way it should have. Michigan had to play poorly to lose its two games this year; OSU had to play well just to win several games this year. This is about what I expected, although take away the holding call (it was definitely legit) and at 35-7, this game would have been even more fun to watch. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

11-22-2003, 08:52 PM	#77
Leonidas College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: East Anglia	Time to face the music. Congrats to UM, they played a great game today. I hope they do the Big-10 proud in Pasadena and administer a black and blue ass whippin in true B10 style to whomever they play. Also, many, many kudos to Chris Perry. He was a MAN today. As for my Buckeyes, I am proud of the fact they didn't fold and stood up and made UM earn it when they were down 28-7. I think Jim Tressel has a lot to do with that. Under John Cooper this would have ended up 49-7. I was also greatly diassappointed in the D effort. If they could have just tackled this might have been different. I can't recall a single time where the first man hitting Perry actually brought him down. Hopefully OSU, with their fan loyalty and virtual guarantee of a sellout wherever they play, can get a shot at the Orange or Fiesta Bowls. You all may have to tolerate another OSU-Miami game or even OSU-FSU. Either way, I like our chances. Good luck Michigan, GO BUCKS! __________________ Molon labe

11-22-2003, 10:28 PM	#78
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Well done on both sides. Michigan was clearly the better team. They basically moved the ball at will. There was a severe lack of concentration in the 3rd quarter when the game was 28-7 and 28-14. But as soon as it was within in touchdown, Michigan moved the ball down the field with ease and scored a touchdown. Michigan's best players were the best today: Perry, Edwards, Breaston, etc. A solid game alll around. GO BLUE!!!! HAIL TO THE VICTORS VALIANT! HAIL TO THE CONQUERING HEROES! HAIL! HAIL! TO MICHIGAN! __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

11-22-2003, 03:12 PM	#52
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	I'm looking forward to Gutierrez/Breaston next season. Still holding my breath on this one. I've never had much confidence in Navarre, and we're going to see a run stack now.

11-22-2003, 03:12 PM	#53
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Maybe I have a bad memory, but wasn't there a lot of talk about how Perry couldn't do anything against a real defense? Anyway, he's impressed me today. The guy just looks like he's dying after every play though, he could possibly suffer from Eddie George syndrome before his college career ends.

11-22-2003, 03:16 PM	#54
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Did you see him when he carried 51 times against Michigan State. Halfway through that one, he looked half-dead. But he kept on taking the ball. Krenzel looked more like a pro quarterback than Navarre until that last possession. He's obviously still in pain, but he's still their best bet.

11-22-2003, 03:20 PM	#55
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Yeah, I mean don't get me wrong. The kid is showing a helluva lot of heart, he just keeps on trucking. I actually feel bad for him though, especially after the MSU game, I know they had to do what they had to do to win, but man...I just feel bad seeing a kid taking that much of a pounding. Afraid it will catch up to him way too soon. He's one tough sucka though, give him that.

11-22-2003, 03:28 PM	#56
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	INT... game

11-22-2003, 03:35 PM	#60
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Whatagame. Well, Shorty, time to announce that Perry won the game.

11-22-2003, 03:38 PM	#61
SnowMan High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Georgia via Alaska via Washington	Yay for USC.

11-22-2003, 03:44 PM	#62
ice4277 Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkley, MI: The Hotbed of FOFC!	all i can say is Go Blue!

11-22-2003, 05:51 PM	#67
Balldog Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Macomb, MI	All I have to say is wow! Michigan has a damn good football team and I would be surprised if they couldn't give Oklahoma or USC a game. Chris Perry is unreal.

11-22-2003, 05:53 PM	#68
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	USC - probably Oklahoma - no

11-22-2003, 07:19 PM	#73
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Where are all these OSU fans at now, after the game? Don't be those guys.

11-22-2003, 10:57 PM	#82
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Not even the biggest rivalry in college football, much less all of sports.

11-23-2003, 12:01 AM	#85
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	Congrats to Michigan! It's good to see Ohio State lose It feels good to be the only team in the Big Ten that beat Michigan

11-23-2003, 01:22 AM	#86
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	This game made me happy. Thank you Michigan, but now I go back to disliking you.

11-24-2003, 12:23 PM	#88
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Again, congrats to UM for whipping the Bucks up front, all day long. No pressure on Navarre + Chris Perry for 150 yards = UM in Rose Bowl. It's well deserved. Unlike most of the Buckeye fans around here, I think USC deserved to be in the Sugar Bowl more than Ohio State, and now they will get that chance (provided the BCS doesn't screw them and they don't screw themselves vs. the Beavers). That being said, I don't understand why so many here were rooting against Ohio St. Many other college programs have had just as many (if not more) disciplinary problems than the Bucks this year, and Ohio St. is not a program out of control. It seemed like where most people rooted for Ohio St. last year, this year they were the villains. Just confusing to me. Oh well, like or dislike whoever you want. I know all the Buckeye fans here will be watching with me and rooting for them in the Orange Bowl. __________________ My listening habits

11-24-2003, 01:38 PM	#91
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	OSU = Lucky they didn't play the Gophers.

11-24-2003, 01:40 PM	#92
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Yeah, that Glen Mason really knows how to come through in the big games. __________________ My listening habits

11-24-2003, 10:33 PM	#93
Craptacular College Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Mad City, WI	I'm guessing he was simply highlighting the fact that the Rodents averaged 293 yards/game rushing (#2 in the country). They have two tailbacks with at least 990 yards, and they average 6.1 and 6.7 ypc. Yikes!

11-25-2003, 12:43 AM	#94
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	butter, I've always hated OSU. I don't really know why, I just do. They're probably my least favorite football team in the Big Ten. Even more so then Wisconsin and Minnesota. The last two years I've really started to hate them because: 1) Iowa has started to become really good, and when your team is good, you have to hate the other good teams in conference. 2) I can't stand the way they win(and play) it's usually effective but it's really, really annoying. The even though you play like shit every single week, you still find some way to win. But now, since the season is over, I'm a Big Ten conference fan, and I hope that all the Big Ten teams(even Ohio State) win their bowl games!

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