Official 2015 College Football Week 2 thread

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Dola -
I present Exhibit 1.
This is updated as of today:



So how many people really believe Tennessee is better than Michigan State, Clemson, FSU, GT, UCLA, etc.
And that Arkansas is #19 in the country after losing to Toledo.

Who's power index is that?

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Who's power index is that?

ESecPN

ESPN Football Power Index - 2015 - ESPN

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

ESecPN

ESPN Football Power Index - 2015 - ESPN

Well, that explains that.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Well, that explains that.

Pretty much.

I'd love to have a few pounds of whatever their number crunchers smoke before developing their "formulas" though.

A few free samples & sell the rest, could make a tidy retirement nest egg 'cause it's obviously gooooooood shit.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

No, it would be like saying the ACC as a whole sucks. And I would agree.

However I'd argue that the ACC has 3 Top 15-17 teams (GT, FSU, CLEM in order from best to worst) and 1-2 more Top 25 caliber teams (Duke and BC in my opinion)

So I'd say the ACC has 4-5 of the Top 25 teams in the country. About what you would expect from each of the Power 5 Conference

However we have the stated position that the SEC has a sum total of 10 of the 25 best teams in America. And then as they inevitably lose to each other they reward one another with a Top 25 win and a loss to a Top 25 team. The lie propogates itself.

In reality I think the Top 25 breakdown, right now, should close to
SEC (5-6) Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, UGA, Mizzou (maybe aTm )
ACC (4-5 out of) GT, FSU, CLEM, Duke/BC
B1G (4-5 out of) Ohio St, Mich St, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Minnesote/Iowa
Big 12 (4-5 out of) Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma, WVU/Kan St/TT
Pac 12 (4-5 out of) USC, UCLA, Arizona, Oregon, Utah/Cal
Independent 2: Notre Dame, BYU

That would also represent a fairly even distribution of quality teams amongst the 5 conferences. That is how I think the country stacks up, not BECAUSE it is an even distribution but based on my feelings.

As you can see I even acknowledge that the SEC is the best conference as I give them more teams than any other conference.

The argument for years has been that it is the deepest conference because, for example, Miss St as the suggested 6 here would be comparable or better than the 5th place team from any other conference. I think a fair case could be made for that argument as well.

Where the whole argument has jumped the shark is when the argument changed to Not only could Miss St beat everyone else's #5 it could also beat everyone else's #2 and that the rest of world was playing with the scraps leftover.

I think I agree with you 100%. Tennessee and Arkansas are a product of preseason prognosticators saying they were good and now not wanting to be wrong. Notice for the third year in a row with a record of 25-5 (14-4 SEC) Mizzou still isn't mentioned in the ESPN power rankings you linked below. My point is that the shitty overrated teams like Arkansas and Tennessee losing doesn't mean the SEC is down it just means they suck like most thought they would suck. Nobody else (that is good) has lost.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by panerd

My point is that the shitty overrated teams like Arkansas and Tennessee losing doesn't mean the SEC is down it just means they suck like most thought they would suck. Nobody else (that is good) has lost.

The problem with that however is that there just aren't THAT many really good teams in college football these days, hasn't been in a number of years.

I didn't have UT ranked but it wasn't that wide a miss either. They very well could be in the 30-40 range, these days however that doesn't take a whole lot.
By the time you get down to 20 or so, well, there's not anybody that looks like a world beater.