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If Trump doesn't run it will be a bloodbath. Pence will obviously want it, but so will everyone else. I'd expect a return to ten or more candidates.
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11-10-2016, 06:10 PM
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The big bloodbath will be the ten candidates vying for Kellyanne Conway's services. She'll be able to name her price.
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11-10-2016, 06:23 PM
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Only if the candidate is similar. Her role seems to have been pretty simple: be on TV, and manage Donald's ego to keep him remotely between the ditches. (did you read the "inside the campaign" article someone linked a few pages ago? It talks about that quite a bit) The guy I'd want on a campaign staff might be Donald, Jr.
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11-10-2016, 07:47 PM
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Even if she had the slighest ambition for politics - and nothing I've seen in the last 8 years suggests that she does - spending four to eight years in the Senate would put her between 60 to 64 by the time she ran for President. I'm sorry, but I don't think anything that happened in the last 9 months suggests that the right would lay off the "don't you think she looks...tired?" ageist crap that a woman candidate has to face just because it's a different woman than Hillary Clinton. She might not have the mountain of right-wing pile-on to deal with, but her age and appearance would absolutely be held against her, even if subtly. I don't have faith that this country can get past its race and gender issues so completely in 8 years that if Michelle Obama were to run in 2024 - either as a primary challenge to an incumbent Democrat, or to replace a two-term Trump - that she would be treated as a serious candidate first and a black female second, rather than the other way around. |
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11-10-2016, 07:50 PM
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2 candidate filled primaries? And we thought this year was crazy
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11-10-2016, 08:18 PM
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Au contraire. She's every bit as reviled as her husband, if not more so. Quote:
It's the only thing she has to run on aside from her name, of COURSE she'd be treated as a novelty candidate. And it might just win a nomination for her.
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11-10-2016, 08:21 PM
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I've wondered the opposite once or twice briefly though. Did this year's clown car field actually reduce the likelihood of seeing that for a while?
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11-11-2016, 09:16 PM
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Maybe a bit of a wild card, but what about businessman Don Pebbles, who is mauling a run for mayor of NYC? He's a Blue Dog Democrat, so I'm not sure if he's "progressive" enough, but he's an African-American, smart, not a career politician, and is charisma and media-savvy. He is 56 years old.
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11-11-2016, 09:27 PM
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Sounds like the perfect VP choice for someone like Castro.
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11-11-2016, 09:43 PM
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Him last week: Don Peebles Wants Tax Cuts, Mulls Run for NYC Mayor | Fox Business Wikipedia says he has a net worth of $700 million. Quite honestly, I think he could of ran this year and won. An outsider, successful businessman, grounded and in-touch, and could of easily took on Donald. Last edited by Galaxy : 11-11-2016 at 10:15 PM. |
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11-12-2016, 12:20 PM
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If the Democrats end up looking for a celebrity, what about Leonardo DiCaprio? He's the United Nations representative on Climate Change and also serves on the World Wildlife Fund board so that's something at least. It's probably a stretch to assume someone who is an activist would be interested in becoming president though especially given his fame as an actor. If he were to run, it seems like he'd at least be widely popular with Millennials. |
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11-12-2016, 12:35 PM
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Matt Damon would be another one. He's been a big part of Water.org. |
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11-13-2016, 01:13 AM
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Eh... I think we need to take a break on the "X could have ran this year and won" stuff. I think the election has shown that Trump was far more intelligent than anyone would have predicted - the campaign was constantly fighting against Trump's wishes to keep campaigning in Wisconsin and other Rust Belt areas, but he kept going because he knew something they didn't.
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11-13-2016, 05:14 PM
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Let's be real, though: hatred is not the same as "pile on." Hillary Clinton has been Public Enemy #1 for the Republicans for 20 years. She and her husband both have faced interminable innuendo, dark mutterings, and "we know you're both crooks but we just can't PROVE anything! You're simultaneously the worst criminals ever because we dug up all these scandals and the best criminals ever because we can't make anything stick!" Regardless of how the right feels about Michelle Obama in terms of revulsion, what have they got to level against her that comes remotely close to stacking up against the bullshit Hillary Clinton has spent 20 years dealing with? More mutterings about the so-called "whitey" tape that doesn't actually exist? SHE WASN'T PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN? "She tried to tell us how to feed our kids"? More gorilla 'shops? I'm not saying the right can't find reasons to hate her. I'm saying there isn't a mountain of bullshit to bury her with. Nothing on the level of the knives they spent the last 8 years sharpening for Hillary Clinton. |
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11-13-2016, 08:24 PM
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That's not a hair I was splitting, so I'll concede your point. (It's a perfectly distinction, it's just not how I originally interpreted the comment however)
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