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Normal transition of power. He meets with Biden, stays until 1/20, comes to inauguration, etc. | 5 | 5.56% | |
He doesn't fight the result, but resigns prior to the inauguration. | 2 | 2.22% | |
He fights the result but gives up shortly before the inauguration (let's define "shortly" as "some time after the EC meets on 12/14") | 30 | 33.33% | |
He fights the result all the way to January 20th. Has to be physically removed. | 12 | 13.33% | |
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up and resigns before the inauguration | 6 | 6.67% | |
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up an then we have a normal transition as per option 1. | 30 | 33.33% | |
Other. (You know you gotta specify this one.) | 5 | 5.56% | |
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01-16-2023, 01:53 PM | #7051 |
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Dola: The gas thing isn't a done deal, it is something that has been floated by some experts. My guess what actually is going to happen is codes are going to be written for higher venting requirements for gas ovens. Most if not all new housing will then not be set up for gas, and you will only see gas stoves in higher end homes.
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01-16-2023, 02:19 PM | #7052 |
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Just a hunch .. he says it while recommending what brand new pots & pans you should buy from his sponsor?
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01-16-2023, 02:31 PM | #7053 | |
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Yeah, the gas stove ban was suggested by the head of a government office but Biden has said he has no plans to implement it. He knows it would not be worth spending any political capital on it.
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01-16-2023, 02:55 PM | #7054 | |
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What's so strange is that "Gas stoves cause lung problems for the children who live in homes with them" should be enough, on its own, for people to phase them out voluntarily. We shouldn't need government action to get rid of them. |
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01-16-2023, 03:00 PM | #7055 |
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I honestly wonder if lead-based gas or paint would be able to be done away with these days if they hadn't been already.
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01-16-2023, 03:09 PM | #7056 | |
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We also shouldn't read too much into one summary study of data that is hardly conclusive. Asthma is very complex. No one knows what causes it. One fact - California has just about the highest gas-stove percentage and North Dakota just about the lowest - yet both have among the lowest asthma rates. Pollution was once thought to be the primary cause of asthma, but as pollution rates drop in western countries, childhood asthma is way, way up. I'm also not sure how pilot lights worked, but modern appliances and furnaces no longer need them, and if natural gas was causing asthma, you'd expect asthma to be dropping as a result. The lead author on this paper is a staff member of a group that advocates, as its mission, no fossil fuel use in construction. This study seems to me like complete junk science. Certainly, on its own, not cause to even consider changing laws. |
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01-16-2023, 03:12 PM | #7057 | |
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The house we moved into three years ago has a gas stove. First time for me. Yes, I've found it is easier to control and you no longer worry about the hot spots and even cooking, and I'm not even a foodie. Go into a fine restaurant and ask what they use. |
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01-16-2023, 03:24 PM | #7058 |
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Leaving pollution out of it, and having cooked on all three, my personal review is
induction > gas > electric. |
01-16-2023, 03:28 PM | #7059 | |
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I've read enough about induction that I probably would agree in the end, but they are a lot more expensive (and coming down in price). They also have a significant efficiency advantage. It would not shock me if induction continues to increase in popularity, separate from other factors. |
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01-16-2023, 06:47 PM | #7060 | |
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Not the head. Just one commissioner from the CPSC. The chair of the CPSC has said he is not considering a ban. The dumbest part of this is that Ted Cruz found a 2 yr old tweet from Jill Biden using a gas stove and tried to make it look like she was a hypocrite.
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01-16-2023, 07:24 PM | #7061 |
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The dumbest part of Ted Cruz is Ted Cruz
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01-16-2023, 07:31 PM | #7062 |
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I have an induction stove in my house and so far I hate it because I don't have cookware designed for it. But the rare times I cook, I tend to use my Foodi anyway, so it's whatever
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01-16-2023, 08:01 PM | #7063 |
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The induction looks so easy to clean. I despite cleaning my gas stove because I tend to spill stuff a lot.
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01-16-2023, 11:20 PM | #7064 |
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01-17-2023, 04:31 AM | #7065 |
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But did he want to ban gas ovens?
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01-17-2023, 12:12 PM | #7066 | |
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We have laws about things like seatbelts for a reason. Many people don't naturally just make those kind of decisions on their own. |
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01-17-2023, 06:13 PM | #7067 |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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These Santos/Devolder fraud/scam stories are getting to be so numerous, it's like they're just coming out of random fiction from the public library.
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01-17-2023, 06:22 PM | #7068 | |
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This is the gofundme he claimed was a 501c3 for animal rescue/support. |
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01-17-2023, 06:23 PM | #7069 |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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It's OK, he needed the $3K to pay for knee replacement surgery.
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01-17-2023, 08:42 PM | #7070 |
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01-17-2023, 08:43 PM | #7071 |
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Chris Collins: A list of congressional lawmakers indicted since 2005
It sure seems like Devolder Santos will be added to this list before long. |
01-17-2023, 10:25 PM | #7072 | |
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The sealed elements will do it for you. Plus, since they cool down extremely fast, you don't get super-burned-on food like you can with sealed elements on a regular electric cooktop. Also, before this goes further, I'm not being paid by the induction cooktop lobby (but perhaps I should be). |
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01-18-2023, 02:48 PM | #7073 |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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Well, if all the Santos lies didn't move the GOP to throw him out, surely this picture of him in drag will do the trick!
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01-18-2023, 03:09 PM | #7074 |
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I don't know how anyone is going to be able sort out the facts from the fiction in this guy's life.
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01-18-2023, 03:18 PM | #7075 |
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Doesn't matter.
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01-18-2023, 04:12 PM | #7076 | |
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Eh, that could be anyone in drag. In all seriousness though that photo is too blurry to say that it is George Santos.
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01-18-2023, 05:15 PM | #7077 |
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01-18-2023, 05:35 PM | #7078 | |
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01-19-2023, 08:40 AM | #7079 |
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The Forward got ahold of some immigration documents that show Santos' mother wasn't in the US from 1999 to 2003.
So that story about her being in the towers during 9/11...
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01-19-2023, 08:43 AM | #7080 |
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I guess I am not as smart as the NY Democrats, but I might have considered doing opps research on the GOP candidate before he got elected.
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01-19-2023, 10:54 AM | #7081 |
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He contradicted the 9/11 story about 6 months later in a tweet where he said it was the 5th anniversary of his mother's death some day in December.
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01-19-2023, 12:41 PM | #7082 |
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I disagree with most everything DeSantis says or does or wants.
But I give him credit over Trump and pretty much every other GOP aspirant. He does not just talk a big game. He uses the power of the state at every turn to push his political agenda. I have no idea how broad his appeal is, but if I were a committed MAGA, he'd be my guy for sure.
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01-19-2023, 01:53 PM | #7083 |
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The problem with DeSantis is that Trump will call him DeFatAss one day and it'll end his political career.
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01-19-2023, 02:23 PM | #7084 | |
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The excerpts from Trump's rape deposition are crazy.
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01-19-2023, 06:18 PM | #7085 |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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01-19-2023, 06:27 PM | #7086 |
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01-19-2023, 06:30 PM | #7087 |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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He's already floated DeSanctimonious, but that's a few too many syllables for his followers, so it didn't catch on.
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01-19-2023, 07:26 PM | #7088 |
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I read an article a couple days that said DeSantis still trails Trump by double digits in a poll of GOP primary voters.
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01-19-2023, 07:48 PM | #7089 |
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As long as he isn't in prison the nomination is Trumps. People can talk up DeSantis all they want but no one is defeating Trump in a primary,
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01-19-2023, 07:51 PM | #7090 |
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Spoiler: Trump is not going to prison.
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01-19-2023, 07:53 PM | #7091 |
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01-23-2023, 11:54 AM | #7092 |
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One of the most visible dopes in the J6 insurrection found guilty on all counts.
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01-23-2023, 12:09 PM | #7093 | |
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01-23-2023, 12:15 PM | #7094 |
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Most recent polling, if that means anything. Not to mention, hardly anyone with sway over voters speaking out against Trump.
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01-23-2023, 01:24 PM | #7095 |
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I guess mocking Damar Hamlin for having cardiac arrest on the field and having to be revived via CPR is now a MAGA thing
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01-23-2023, 01:56 PM | #7096 | |
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The most recent polling I've seen had Trump up 15 on DeSantis which isn't very good for a former President that has already thrown his hat into the ring against a state governor that hasn't even announced a run. I still think it's DeSantis and Trump doesn't make it to the primary. His act is getting old with his voting base and his insults aren't really sticking. He's lost a lot large donors and has started attacking evangelical leaders for not supporting his 2024 run. Last edited by Atocep : 01-23-2023 at 01:56 PM. |
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01-23-2023, 02:42 PM | #7097 |
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Polling aside it is going to be 2016 all over again. People smell blood in the water with a weakened Trump. He went from being a 1200 pound gorilla to an 800 pound gorilla but he is still the biggest gorilla in the room. The MAGA base base is so strong and there is literally nothing that can be done about that. Trumps closest competitor is DeSantis and he lacks the charisma the base is so fond of. Trump will DESTROY him on a debate stage, hell Charlie Christ made him malfunction. We are going to end up with a crowded primary again where people pull a few points here, a few points there, and Trump wins easily. The other scenario is DeSantis doesn't run. He is young, just won reelection, and knows regardless of what happens in 2024 thats it for Trump. Makes little sense for him to not wait until 2028. So you tell me who is beating Trump and how/why. |
01-23-2023, 03:06 PM | #7098 | |
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Trump has his support but his grip over the GOP is weakening. Half of GOP voters want someone else to win the nomination and the standard response I see when Trump is mentioned is that they support Trump and would vote for him again if he wins the nomination but he's too damaged to win the general so it's time for someone else. DeSantis is playing this smart. Stay back and let Trump punch himself out. Let him get all of his shots in, let him get his insults out there, and don't respond to any of it because you don't have to. By the time the primary comes around all of Trumps attacks are out there and its easier to create an attack strategy. 2024 won't be 2016. Trump isn't the new guy shaking up politics anymore. He has baggage and for all Trumps talk, it's DeSantis doing the shit Trump's supporters wish Trump would have done. |
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01-23-2023, 03:23 PM | #7099 | |
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There is stuff saying his appearance at the playoff game is a signal for end of times and all other wacky stuff. It is scary to imagine people like these idiots walk freely among us. To quote Kid Frost "Crazy MFers come in all shapes and sizes" The absolute mental gymnastics some people will go though to create a conspiracy is mind boggling. Of course they all know better than science and experts. Real Or Ritual? Buffalo Bills Damar Hamlin Collapses During Bills Bengals Game On Monday Night! - YouTube https://youtu.be/SEuUywZxwAw DAMAR HAMLIN:THE SYMBOLISM - YouTube Is Damar Hamlin a Satanist and part of the Illuminati?!? - YouTube |
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01-23-2023, 03:28 PM | #7100 | |
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No one in that party has even come close to knocking him from his pedestal. Why should we assume it happens in the next 15 months? |
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