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#1751 |
Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: North Carolina
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It's the same rules that apply elsewhere in the economy. Like how all the tech firms can't all agree to not pay programmers more than minimum wage. That would violate antitrust and related laws.
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#1752 |
College Starter
Join Date: Oct 2004
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OK, so going back to my original message, they can't all collude to make TDs worth 6 so they could be sued?
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#1753 | |
Coordinator
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Puyallup, WA
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The lack of anti trust exemption is what makes college sports different than what we're used to when it comes to the professional sports. College sports are effectively a group of conferences competing against one another. There isn't an overarching body with the level of authority that a commissioner has. Because these conferences are competing against one another, due to the lack of anti trust exemption, anything that is viewed as them working together to put limits on player pay, player movement etc could be seen as collusion. The reality of it is you can't go around bragging about your potential $100 million a year conference payouts and not have the people putting in the work start to wonder where their share is. |
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#1754 |
World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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#1755 |
College Starter
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Isn't it though? Its literally part of the metric by which their performance is judged.
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#1756 |
World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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No. That would not be a labor issue. Something like pads or helmets or safety concerns would be. But increasing the points for a touchdown wouldn't make any difference for individual workers. Everyone is still going to be judged the same whatever the number you make a touchdown. 1 touchdown is one touchdown, whether it is 1 point or a million points.
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#1757 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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#1758 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Newburgh, NY
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One way around these lawsuits is to eliminate college sports. But if they exist, the rules have to follow the laws.
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#1759 |
Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: North Carolina
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We are creating the worst possible world. Money is legally allowed in, but we have no system to regulate it. Go back to unpaid labor or unionize the players and create a CBA so you can legally make rules to put some regulation on the coming insanity. |
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#1760 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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I think I'm to the point where that would be better than the current absurdity.
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#1761 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: The State of Insanity
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ESPN is sublicensing two first round College Football Playoff games to TNT, and in '26-'28, they will also have 2 QF games.
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#1762 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Newburgh, NY
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I think it's been a mistake to have big money sports tied up with college educations, but it is what it is. If I were in charge I'd make one rule, no money from tuition or fees goes to athletics, basically make them an independent business hosted on the campus. Then they could do whatever they like and whatever follows the laws of the USA and state.
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#1763 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: The State of Insanity
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And one can successfully argue that unlike NBA, NHL and MLB, the ability to play college football is necessary to have a pro career (since the NFL has a strict rule about when one is eligible to be drafted and play)
In those other cases, (the NBA is a bit different now in that the G-League Ignite are folding, which in some cases replaced the 1-and-done college visit) there are other options to play at a level appropriate to becoming pro-ready.
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#1764 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Land O Lakes FL
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"The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946 |
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#1765 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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There isn't a level of Hell deep enough nor hot enough for Ed O'Bannon, and every judge, and every politician that brought things to this point.
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#1766 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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It's called capitalism that brought us to this point.
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#1767 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: The State of Insanity
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don't hold back, Jon, tell us how you really think. ![]() Personally, I think that the past situation wasn't tenable, where the football coach at State U was the highest paid state employee, and the players had zero rights, but I dunno that the current situation, which is pretty much the worst of both worlds (just look at the Florida NIL lawsuit for what fresh hell it's been). Just make the leagues pro (U-23), and just put in there that part of the compensation is a fully paid scholarship to the university. Because I'm pretty sure that NIL is going to pay out 2-3x that 20 million "Salary cap" (which is across all sports) per year.
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#1768 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: The State of Insanity
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and random thought that needs its own post...
We have a non-US comparison sport to compare college sports to in a way. For 100 years (1895-1995) the sport of rugby union was supposedly an amateur sport. People were barred from playing rugby union if they played the alternative rules code (Rugby League), or even NON rugby sports (for example, the IRB required canada to ban all players who played Canadian Football, which is one of the offshoots (along with American Football, Aussie Rules Football, and the aforementioned Rugby League) from Rugby's rules. I even read a story in the book of Rugby Union history that a player was banned from Rugby Union for the rather Orwellian offense of "Discussing the benefits of playing rugby league". He didn't sign a contract, or even play a game. Just discussing it was enough to get him banned from the sport (not just playing, coaching, etcetera). Just like Rugby Union, the NCAA claimed that Amateurism was the one true Shibboleth, and just like Rugby Union, once there was too much money in the game that the rules were being winked at because the sport was too popular, the system couldn't hold. I have to say, however, that Rugby players were extra screwed. They actually had to take unpaid time off for work to do games and international tours, and those tours used to be for MONTHS on end. Imagine working in a financial bureau (like a lot of Rugby players did), and trying to tell your boss "Hey boss? I've been selected for the Lions tour of New Zealand.. I'm going to need July, August, September, and part of October off"
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#1769 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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That WAS the restrained version. The audio version here in the 'cave that went with my typing was stronger. Quote:
As if this entitled generation would want that? They'd expect the degree to just be handed to them, for the honor of their presence.
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#1770 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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I think other generations expected to be paid market value for their work too. Although maybe we're all entitled for not volunteering at some billion dollar company.
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#1771 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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Stop with that horseshit. Scholarships have monetary value. A considerable monetary value. Pampered little bitches want to get paid far beyond their value, the something-for-nothing generation knows nothing else. The only defense is that they weren't born like that, it's not genetic. It's learned ... and the generation that raised them failed utterly & miserably.
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#1772 |
College Starter
Join Date: Oct 2004
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As a parent of a child that has verbally committed to a div I nonrevenue sport but has to wait until November to sign, I’m sweating.
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#1773 | ||
Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Land O Lakes FL
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Don't forget about the investors who were looking for a greater ROI. Wait. In this world, they are called athletic donors. Quote:
And the proverbial local car dealers in the college sports world have wanted to pay the players more than the considerable monetary value that scholarships have for decades. The funny part is I agree with your general point. I just don't understand why you only have the expectation of the players to not want to get paid far beyond their value when everyone else both in and out of the college sports world is doing the opposite. Sidenote: How much value do the scholarships really have when we are at a point where there are questions about if the schools themselves and the degrees they hand out have any value?
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#1774 |
hates iowa
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Did somebody call a wahmbulance in the middle of the night?
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#1775 | |
College Prospect
Join Date: Dec 2002
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I thought this was satire until I got to the cig sig. |
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#1776 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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I mean my old company would cater lunch on Fridays and I got a pretty nice charcuterie board for Christmas one year. But I did feel entitled to a salary. |
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#1777 |
World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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Jesus...
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#1778 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Big Ten Country
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He definitely looked excited. I mean, him and USC.
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#1779 |
hates iowa
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Looks like UCLA will be joining Nebraska as a gimme
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#1780 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
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That's peak the Office levels of vicarious embarrassment and awkwardness. Poor guy.
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#1781 |
Resident Alien
Join Date: Jun 2001
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Get him in a presidential debate!
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#1782 |
World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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I will say he was one hell of a running back in the day. I didn't know he was hired as a Head Coach at UCLA.
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#1783 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Big Ten Country
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Ohio State DE Jack Sawyer told me Ryan Day told his team to play the new CFB video game to help learn opponents
Maybe I should have posted this in the EA thread.. Last edited by Passacaglia : 07-24-2024 at 03:45 PM. |
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#1784 | |
World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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It is really genius. It is a great way for the team to feel like they need to be up for patsy teams that play like the '85 Bears in CF25. |
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#1785 |
hates iowa
Join Date: Oct 2010
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We're in LA!
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#1786 |
College Starter
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Does anyone know of a site where you can go through the entire 2024 schedule, check off the games you are interested in, and then print off or download a custom schedule?
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#1787 |
World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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Deshaun Foster showed up for the first day of camp in a "We're In LA" shirt. Classic.
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