POTUS 2024 - Harris vs Trump - General Election Discussion

[Lathum]

Trump went after John Deer tonight at, of all places, a town hall with farmers, saying he would put a 200% tariff on their products made outside the US.

[Fidatelo]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Trump went after John Deer tonight at, of all places, a town hall with farmers, saying he would put a 200% tariff on their products made outside the US.

Do farmers like John Deere? I know they _need_ John Deere, but from what I understand the company has been actively antagonizing their customers in recent years with technology that makes it impossible to repair their own gear. Throw in a good rant about producing stuff in the good ol' U S of A and it seems like a plausible enough idea (not saying it went well, just it doesn't sound outlandish from a high level concept).

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Fidatelo

Do farmers like John Deere? I know they _need_ John Deere, but from what I understand the company has been actively antagonizing their customers in recent years with technology that makes it impossible to repair their own gear. Throw in a good rant about producing stuff in the good ol' U S of A and it seems like a plausible enough idea (not saying it went well, just it doesn't sound outlandish from a high level concept).

There are still farmers that use the brand as a part of their personality, but the company has definitely taken a hit in reputation recently. I imagine them moving manufacturing to Mexico will erode the brand further. I think most farmers will like this idea.

[cuervo72]

They're gonna get subsidies to pay for the stuff anyway, right?

[albionmoonlight]

People don't understand tariffs.

If Trump says he'll punish John Deere for moving jobs to Mexico with a 200% tariff, that's horrible policy (and I think illegal under NAFTA), but it's, IMO, smart limbic stem politics.

[Ben E Lou]

Random thing I just realized: Ryan Routh (class of '84) and Mark Robinson (based on his bday, likely either '86 or '87) were at Grimsley High School together for at least a year.
#DoBetterGenX

[Thomkal]

Better start going through the Yearbooks now Ben to get a heads up on the next one.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Random thing I just realized: Ryan Routh (class of '84) and Mark Robinson (based on his bday, likely either '86 or '87) were at Grimsley High School together for at least a year.
#DoBetterGenX

The lead poisoning really messed us up.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

socialist

You're smarter than this, Jon. No way in hell do you really think Kamala Harris is a socialist.

[Atocep]

Has anyone else seen the upcoming documentary footage of Trump speaking to Lev Parnas and deciding right there to remove the Ukraine ambassador because Parnas made some shit?

I can't imagine how badly Putin and others were able to play him in private meetings.

[Atocep]

We also have Bernie Moreno telling people at a campaign stop that abortion shouldn't be an issue for women over 50.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Fidatelo

Do farmers like John Deere? I know they _need_ John Deere, but from what I understand the company has been actively antagonizing their customers in recent years with technology that makes it impossible to repair their own gear. Throw in a good rant about producing stuff in the good ol' U S of A and it seems like a plausible enough idea (not saying it went well, just it doesn't sound outlandish from a high level concept).

I think all of this is true, but there is an identity to the company that is similar to what you have in other parts of the country with owning non-American-made vehicles. Like "oh, it's nice you got a truck - too bad it isn't an F150." I think the identity is that having a John Deere tractor means something and you still see a lot of people wearing the ball caps and t-shirts. Plus, the Venn diagram of people that vote for Trump and people that are into a status item made by John Deere is a big overlap, whereas the people that fit into those two categories AND understand foreign manufacturing and the nuances of what it means is not going to be a real high portion.