2024 NFL Season Thread

[Drake]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

He badly underthrew 2 possible TDs and it seemed like he just couldn't throw it far enough. The receivers outran his arm.

...but if he had thrown it just 5% farther...

[Drake]

Also, what does it say about the state of the NFL that I'm more excited about the Bucs/Falcons game next Thursday than I was about the Giants/Cowboys?

Me and Pepperidge Farms are old enough to remember when tonight's game would have seemed like an epic matchup instead of a "football's on; I guess I'll watch it" game.

Edit: I think it might just be the bad influence on this board. There are more Falcons fans here than I've ever met in real, actual life. I feel for you guys.

[albionmoonlight]

I feel like Al Michaels's IDGAF style as he ages makes for great television and will be awesome until one game when he says something that causes Amazon to issue a statement the next day that includes the phrases "mutually decided" "regrettable" and "wish Mr. Micahels the best"

[Bobble]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I feel like Al Michaels's IDGAF style as he ages makes for great television and will be awesome until one game when he says something that causes Amazon to issue a statement the next day that includes the phrases "mutually decided" "regrettable" and "wish Mr. Micahels the best"

Doesn't seem like he gets along with Kirk, though, and that makes it a little unfun to watch.

[thesloppy]

I hate that team and they obviously hate each other

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

I have to push back on this a bit. How many elite passers the past few seasons have not also had an elite pass catcher? At least to bridge the gap until they can turn those number 2's into 1's.

The Jags (and cousin Baalke) have taken nine players over the past five drafts with either day one or day two picks:

2020: WR Laviska Shenault
2021: QB Trevor Lawrence; RB Travis Etienne; T Walker Little
2022: G Luke Fortner
2023: OL Anton Harrison; TE Brenton Strange; RB Tank Bigsby
2024: WR Brian Thomas

This doesn't even account for Travon Walker first overall in 2022.

You hit on some of those picks a little better with guys that contribute and this looks like a different team.

You are correct. The Jags did not provide Lawrence with an elite pass catcher before he signed his record breaking contract.

Just because his name was brought up earlier, let's see what Daniel Jones has had to work with since the year before he was drafted in 2019.

2018: RB Saquon Barkley; G Will Hernandez
2019: QB Daniel Jones
2020: T Andrew Thomas; T Matt Peart
2021: WR Kadarius Toney
2022: WR Wan'dale Robinson; OL Joshua Ezeudu
2023: C John Michael Schmitz; WR Jalin Hyatt
2024: WR Malik Nabers

So where is the benefit of the doubt as far as being an elite passer who just needs his team to hit on some picks and everything would be different for Jones given the numbers both have put up?

My point is not to say that Lawrence is a bust or Jones is a future HOFer. It is not to say that either the Giants or the Jaguars have done right by either QB. Both organizations have done little to help their young QBs to this point. My point is it makes no sense to me that Lawrence can escape criticisms and threats of benchings for his performances due to the Jags front office, poor coaching and/or a lack of talent around him but a guy like Daniel Jones can't use an equally bad front office, equally bad coaching and equally poor talent around him over a longer period to excuse his poor performances.

[RainMaker]

They paid a bunch of money to bring in Zay Jones, Ridley, Engram, and Kirk. They've invested heavily in the draft on offensive line. Not saying he has a great supporting cast but if you're the #1 pick in the draft, you shouldn't need Justin Jefferson on your roster to look competent.

Coaching and front office deserve blame but he's also looked pretty bad reading defenses and being inaccurate on easy throws.

[GrantDawg]

Falcons run defense is as soft as Charmin.

[Ksyrup]

Vikings appear legit.

[Ksyrup]

Eagles coach gonna get fired.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Falcons run defense is as soft as Charmin.

Maybe. But I love those throwback uniforms. Love them! Reminds me of Steve Bartkowski and Billy “White Shoes” Johnson.

[Ksyrup]

Tyler Badie of Denver is having some sort of medical emergency on the sideline. Uncertain if it's related to the last hit he took on the field.

[Ksyrup]

Also Bo Nix is 5 for 10 for -9 yards. No sacks, that's his passing yards.

[sovereignstar v2]

Sam Darnold for President

[NobodyHere]

Flacco for VP

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Maybe. But I love those throwback uniforms. Love them! Reminds me of Steve Bartkowski and Billy “White Shoes” Johnson.

Not alone. I wish they always wore the red helmets.

[GrantDawg]

Football this weekend is going to give me an ulcer.

[CrimsonFox]

I don't know why Carolina called for that fancy fake punt play. All they needed to do was run the ball through the bengals terrible D. So stupid

[GrantDawg]

God. I don't know how they pulled that out, but Falcons win.

[Solecismic]

The Bears remain undefeated at home. Some struggles on offense early, which led to the fans booing Williams after a three-and-out, but he seems to be doing OK as a rookie despite the fact that they could certainly use a couple of good offensive linemen.

A lot is made of the long-term futility of quarterbacking in Chicago. I often wonder how much responsibility rests on the shoulders of that fan base. It's a miserable place to be a quarterback.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

God. I don't know how they pulled that out, but Falcons win.

Congrats dawg great for u

[Ksyrup]

I know kickers are better than ever, but the number of teams settling for 50+ yard FGs in crucial situations is insane. The Falcons not trying to get another 5-15 yards and taking long shots down the field to settle for a 58 yard FG from a guy whose career long is 54 in a building where the longest FG ever kicked was 57 is crazy. It worked, but that doesn't excuse the process.

Same thing in the Denver/NYJ game. It's raining and miserable, and Denver has Nix run a QB keeper and slide down 2-3 yards backwards to settle for a 50 yarder to try to make it a 4 point game - miss. NYJ get to a 50 yard FG to win - miss. Those guys might be automatic in perfect conditions, but that's not today.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

The Bears remain undefeated at home. Some struggles on offense early, which led to the fans booing Williams after a three-and-out, but he seems to be doing OK as a rookie despite the fact that they could certainly use a couple of good offensive linemen.

A lot is made of the long-term futility of quarterbacking in Chicago. I often wonder how much responsibility rests on the shoulders of that fan base. It's a miserable place to be a quarterback.

A lot of Bears fans are so used to failure and futility they don't recognize small successes right in front of them. Poles has done a solid job rebuilding the roster, increased the overall talent level, and rebuilt the front office into a modern, analytical front office. No small feat considering the situation when he came in. Many Bears fans think he's terrible though.

Williams looks like a solid rookie QB with a high ceiling. This looked like the first week Waldron scaled the offense back a little and just asked Caleb to manager the game, which he did.

The line needs 2, probably 3 new starters since Tevin Jenkins can't stay healthy. Pryor in place of Nate Davis at least improved the run blocking considerably.

[Solecismic]

Does the Maye era begin after the next kickoff? Or does Mayo accept this is going to be a long season and stick to his guns about keeping Maye on the sidelines while he learns?

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Tyler Badie of Denver is having some sort of medical emergency on the sideline. Uncertain if it's related to the last hit he took on the field.

Obv the jab affecting him, an otherwise healthy adult.

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Not alone. I wish they always wore the red helmets.

Me too. And ditch the modern Falcon logo. The old one is a classic.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I know kickers are better than ever, but the number of teams settling for 50+ yard FGs in crucial situations is insane. The Falcons not trying to get another 5-15 yards and taking long shots down the field to settle for a 58 yard FG from a guy whose career long is 54 in a building where the longest FG ever kicked was 57 is crazy. It worked, but that doesn't excuse the process.

Same thing in the Denver/NYJ game. It's raining and miserable, and Denver has Nix run a QB keeper and slide down 2-3 yards backwards to settle for a 50 yarder to try to make it a 4 point game - miss. NYJ get to a 50 yard FG to win - miss. Those guys might be automatic in perfect conditions, but that's not today.

It made no sense to me. Why on earth were they swinging for the fences instead of just trying to pick up a few yards to help him out? It worked out, but it very easily couldn't have.

[CrimsonFox]

Raiders don't have a Single received I'm impressed with but it seems everyone on the team is good at running. Their d is Good too

[CrimsonFox]

That holding call probably decide the game

[Danny]

Dont worry Raiders will still find a way to lose

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Danny

Dont worry Raiders will still find a way to lose

nope. that questionable holding call decided the game