The Trump Presidency - Chapter 2

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Her “affairs” were getting down with a 60-year old man because he had clout to get ahead. You can spin it however you need to, you can get mad at God or Christians if you need to but those actions finally caught up to her when she was 60 and had to do it the right way and thankfully enough swing voters found out she didn’t have enough substance to her campaign.

By that logic, when do Trump’s actions catch up to him, Good Christian?

[Ksyrup]

Never. Because when he dies, he will ascend to Heaven and bump Jesus off his perch. It's been ordained.

[cuervo72]

Also, it’s one hell of a comeuppance for Harris. Rose to a level that, let’s see…um, zero other women brown or otherwise attained. And crapped out shorter than..yeah again, no other women.

(That’s if you even accept the premise that she had a relationship with Brown to get ahead, which I don’t. Though bitches never screw for anything else amirite??)

[Racer]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Her “affairs” were getting down with a 60-year old man because he had clout to get ahead. You can spin it however you need to, you can get mad at God or Christians if you need to but those actions finally caught up to her when she was 60 and had to do it the right way and thankfully enough swing voters found out she didn’t have enough substance to her campaign.

Why are you making the assumption that Harris's relationship with Willie Brown was to get ahead? I think that's unfair to assume. Also, if it was the case why aren't you placing blame on Brown too in which instance he would have used his position of power to take advantage of a much younger woman?

While that relationship may have helped Harris get her foot in the door, Harris has proven to be very qualified at everything she's done. Many people's first opportunity is because they knew someone.

Most people don't inherit incredible wealth like Trump did.

Originally Posted by Lathum

There is all kind of literature on this subject. While my examples are anecdotal they are far from unique. Not to mention men have been in control for a few thousand years and women may be getting kind of tired of it. When you also consider rights they have gained in the last 50 or so years are already being rolled back by old white men it is understandable how generalizations could be made.

Why would you assume most men don't have women sharing their dating experiences? If true maybe more men should and they would understand why they feel the way they do.

I think for the historical society reasons you mentioned and also because I think women would generally naturally gravitate towards other women to discuss their dating experiences.

Originally Posted by Lathum

We have a president elect responsible for overturning Roe, we have a nominee for Sec of defense who is on the record saying women shouldn't be in combat roles, we have young men and right wing influencers yelling your body my choice, and a VP elect that would be on board with a national abortion ban.

But sure buddy.

Sexism and misogyny are still rampant in society.

The overturning of Roe was not to protect life. If Republicans were pro life they would be for free childcare, free Medicare for everyone 18 and under, pro contraception, paid national parental leave for at least 6 months after a child being born, and free healthcare for pregnant women. They aren't for any of that. The overturning of Roe was to control women.

I mostly agree with most of your posts. I just don't believe most men are inherently bad or at least don't think it's productive to have that mindset. I think there are definitely toxic norms in society that continue to exist. How you counteract these especially when right wing influencers are reinforcing to young men I do not know.

[JPhillips]

This Hegseth story looks really bad. She got a rape kit done the next morning.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

This Hegseth story looks really bad. She got a rape kit done the next morning.

I'm sure he prayed about it and it's ok now.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

This Hegseth story looks really bad. She got a rape kit done the next morning.

The right will just question why she signed the nda instead of pressing charges.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Lathum

According to Edward just have her carry her passport when they ask for papers and worst case scenario the courts will handle everything.

When asked by a LEO, just hand over DL, proof of insurance, and registration. Wouldn't hurt of have a video recording. Don't get overly dramatic and just follow orders.

No big deal (unless you are illegal). Happens all the time, every day.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Edward64

When asked by a LEO, just hand over DL, proof of insurance, and registration. Wouldn't hurt of have a video recording. Don't get overly dramatic and just follow orders.

No big deal (unless you are illegal). Happens all the time, every day.

Why are you assuming this is a garden variety traffic stop?

So you are OK with a LEO asking people for ID for no reasons other than appearance?

How Third Reich of you.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Why are you assuming this is a garden variety traffic stop?

So you are OK with a LEO asking people for ID for no reasons other than appearance?

Good thing I asked him for a scenario and he said

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Could be a traffic stop could be like stop and frisk. Could be other people call her in as suspicious. Again, there are no details so we don't know what might happen.

No problem in asking for DL, proof of insurance, and registration in a traffic stop. If she is doing something that people think is suspicious, no problem.

But tell you what, if/when his daughter is toss into a concentration camp through no fault of her own, com'on back with a "I told you so". Until, just chill until we better understand how this "roundup & deportation" will work.

To quote him again

Again, there are no details so we don't know what might happen.

How Third Reich of you.

Me, Third Reich? That is ironic coming from you

[Lathum]

Way to cherry pick. He also used stop and frisk as an example which is a violation of civil liberties.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Way to cherry pick. He also used stop and frisk as an example which is a violation of civil liberties.

His quote is actually

Could be a traffic stop could be like stop and frisk.

... period. I guess you can read that as 2 separate incidents, but I read that as 1 incident where there is a traffic stop and then stop & frisk.

If that's the case, then I don't think it's a violation of civil liberties (or it needs to be more egregious). But hey, that's why she should be recording the incident, and the LEO should also have a video recording.

The United States Supreme Court justices held that law enforcement officer Martin McFadden did not violate a defendant's Fourth Amendment rights when he chose to approach John Terry and Richard Chilton while they were loitering outside a closed store and conduct what is now referred to as a stop and frisk.

The court held that, while investigating suspicious behavior, an officer may lawfully pat down the outer clothing of someone they reasonably believe to be armed and dangerous. A pat down aims to discover weapons that the person can use to assault the officer or someone nearby. In other words, the objective is to ensure officer safety.

The Court concluded that a stop and frisk doesn't violate the Fourth Amendment, which prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures. Because of the name of this landmark decision, many people now refer to a stop and frisk as a "Terry frisk" or "Terry Stop."

[Lathum]

Doesn't say anything about requesting ID...

If you can't see why people are concerned that detention camps are in the planning process I don't know what to tell you