2025 NFL Offseason/Free Agency/Draft thread

[dubb93]

Is there a point where a team planning on having a QB competition anyway takes a shot on him and just cuts him if he loses the job? I’m just thinking someone like the Colts who plan on having Richardson and Jones play it out in the pre-season. You can’t tell me there isn’t a chance that Shedeur is the best of that bunch.

Any other teams plan on having an open competition this season?

[PilotMan]

Pittsburgh clearly has a need, but they seem confident that he's not the answer.

[Ghost Econ]

New term for when a player slips in the draft:

shadeurfreude

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Todd McShay deserves some credit. He didn't predict this but he's been banging the drum that there isn't a lot of interest in Sanders. He's been saying this information is out there and alluded to ESPN ignoring it because they really want him to be a focus of their draft coverage.

Yeah ESPN was all in on Sanders when the draft started-Kiper had him as his #1 prospect, and they all acted though there were doubts about where he would go. they were still talking about him going in the 1st.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

My phone rang about 11p.

I thought sure I'd been drafted in the 3rd round.

It was one of those "let me make sure you know about your Medicare options" call though Jon? Bastards never give up here.

[GrantDawg]

Trump putting the NFL owners on blast for not drafting Sanders in the first round makes his continued slide all the more hilarious.

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[Ghost Econ]

Which is funny, because if youve ever talked college football with a Trump supporter, they hate Sanders more than anyone.

[albionmoonlight]

“What if Andy Dalton’s athletic profile but also a huge asshole” turns out not to be something teams want.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Trump putting the NFL owners on blast for not drafting Sanders in the first round makes his continued slide all the more hilarious.

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Guy that inherited a fortune coming out and saying that Shedeur should be picked because of how good his dad was……checks out actually. Seems pretty on point for Trump.

[sovereignstar v2]

Technically, Shedeur is dodging the draft

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Trump putting the NFL owners on blast for not drafting Sanders in the first round makes his continued slide all the more hilarious.

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I was going to ask about Clay Matthews (?) message from the President as they were getting ready to start the draft-what exactly did he say and no surprise that Trump tried to make himself the center of attention again on something.

[miked]

Chase Daniels getting more chances than Sanders.

[flere-imsaho]

On Sanders, I think it's obvious at this point that GMs are calculating that the average talent doesn't justify the circus, but at what point would they think he's been humbled enough that the circus wouldn't apply? 6th, 7th, UDFA?

We're a long way from Deion suggesting in the media that certain teams shouldn't bother drafting him.

[GrantDawg]

There are articles suggesting Sanders should return to college.

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[miami_fan]

As one who is always critical of NFL teams not playing to the QB's strengths and/or putting a young QB in situations and systems they are not suited for, I can't criticize teams for choosing not to do those things with Shedeur. I can't speak on what was said during the interview process. None of us think any of that matters if we are talking about a Mahomes type talent. I can't speak on the effect that Deion had on the whole process but does anyone actually believe that teams would not take a potential top ten NFL starting QB because his daddy was a pain in the ass? Of course now that he is obviously at best someone's backup, all of those things come into play. Once that happens, yeah the juice is probably not worth the squeeze.

I am now seeing comparisons to guys like Malik Willis and Will Levis. Yet again, I get why teams would take a shot at players described as "using his rare combination of elite rushing talent and a rocket-launching right arm" and as "one of the most physically gifted quarterbacks in the draft". I listened to a clip this morning of Field Yates trying to justify selecting Shedeur and the high points are things like four year starter, touch, accuracy when not under pressure, and uplifting the profile of his receivers besides Hunter? Huh? That is why he should be drafted?

Here is a thought experiment. Forget where either got picked if Shedeur ends up getting picked, who is/was the better prospect and who would you rather have as your starting QB or even in your QB room in 2025. Shedeur Sanders or Bryce Young?

[Ksyrup]

If Sanders is Trey Lance level on the field, I can't imagine how much noise would be coming from Sanders' camp about his lack of field time. Even though it's obvious Lance hasn't played a lot because he's shown nearly zero ability in practice - otherwise he'd have been playing.

This is teams totally not wanting the headache.

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

There are articles suggesting Sanders should return to college.

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He'd have to file a lawsuit. NCAA rules are that when you declare for the draft, you forgo your remaining eligibility. It'd go over like *another* lead balloon. He'd probably be better off signing with a UFL team tomorrow.

[albionmoonlight]

I'm starting to see the takes that Sanders's slide is a coordinated "plan" by the 32 teams to "humble" him.

[Flasch186]

If I’m a head coach do I want Deion flying in the wings, heir apparent to take over when we are losing because most teams needing a QB aren’t going to be great year one.

So the constant cage rattling about starting sanders and relieving me of my job so Deion can take over is not something I’d invite easily


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[Danny]

On day 3 Sanders will go, its late enough you can just cut him if there is a circus.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by Flasch186

If I’m a head coach do I want Deion flying in the wings, heir apparent to take over when we are losing because most teams needing a QB aren’t going to be great year one.

So the constant cage rattling about starting sanders and relieving me of my job so Deion can rasher over is not something I’d invite easily


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This seems like the most likely answer. What GM is willingly going to be pressured by his dad to take over as HC? It's a bigger issue than what his kid can do on the field now.

[sovereignstar v2]

Bernie Sanders just went

[miami_fan]

Why would Abdul Carter want to wear #56 as a Giant? It would be different if he got drafted by the Dolphins or even the Eagles. Wearing #56 because he idolized LT makes sense if you are on 31 other teams. Not if you are a member of the Giants. Similarly, I don't know why Cam Ward needed permission from Warren Moon to wear #1. Warren Moon wore #1 for the Houston Oilers and never pulled on a jersey for the Titans. Yes, I think it is ridiculous for the Tenneesee Titans to combine their history with the history of the Houston Oilers and for the Oklahoma City Thunder to combine their history with the Seattle SuperSonics.

[sovereignstar v2]

Marketing/$$$$

[Lathum]

I was listening to coverage on the radio and they were speculation Sanders camp at this point is telling teams not to draft him because he would rather file a lawsuit and get way more NIL money than whatever the slot would be for a late round pick.

[albionmoonlight]

SHEDEUR’S AGENT: OK. Here’s the deal. We don’t want you to draft Shedeur because…

GM: OK. That’s fine. We won’t draft him.

AGENT: but don’t you want to know why you shouldn’t draft him?

GM: no. That’s fine. You guys win. We won’t draft him.

[bronconick]

Whoever has the "Mr. Irrelevant" pick has the chance to do the funniest thing.

[Carman Bulldog]

I think Sanders has now surpassed guys like Sam Howell and Malik Willis in terms of where he was projected versus where he will (may?) end up going. Not surprised he didn't go in the first three rounds, but pretty shocked he's not home by the early fifth.

[NobodyHere]

Cleveland is going to Cleveland

[miami_fan]

Value pick by the Browns?

[QuikSand]

Hard Knocks has to do the Browns, right? Light it the F up.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

Gabriel at 5'11" is a better pick for the Browns than Sanders?

I mean, Sanders name would've looked great on that Browns QB jersey. Great fit.

^^^^^^^^^

[miami_fan]

Now I am upset that Jameis Winston is not with the Browns.

[RainMaker]

The Browns have like 5 QBs now. Forgot they got Pickett too.

[bhlloy]

I get why it's value at this point, equally that QB room is going to be absolutely wild. At least one of those QB picks has just been pissed up the wall.

[Honolulu_Blue]

What a QB depth chart:

Shadeur Sanders
Dillon Gabriel
Joe Flacco
Kenny Pickett
Deshaun Watson

[bhlloy]

All that is missing is to sign Aaron Rodgers and do Hard Knocks where one QB is voted off at the end of each episode.

[RainMaker]

Does Sanders go top 10 if he sits out the bowl game?

[Lathum]

Joe Flacco has to be like, wtf did I do to deserve this

[Ghost Econ]

Did Cleveland send up a puff of white smoke to announce the selection?

[Thomkal]

Man into a QB competition with a QB taken earlier than him. If that doesn't give him some humility, then nothing well

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Does Sanders go top 10 if he sits out the bowl game?

Highly doubtful.

If he had sat out interviewing with teams AND the bowl game, then maybe.

But marginal QB skills + his own personality + his clown show father?

It takes a rare fool to want any part of that.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

What a QB depth chart:

Shadeur Sanders
Dillon Gabriel
Joe Flacco
Kenny Pickett
Deshaun Watson

Not saying that you meant to do this but the fact that the QB that is fifth on your depth chart will get $46M in cash this year and might actually be the worst QB on the roster is hilarious.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

What a QB depth chart:

Shadeur Sanders
Dillon Gabriel
Joe Flacco
Kenny Pickett
Deshaun Watson

Maybe they can trade one of these guys to a team that's really aching for QB help, like Cleveland.

[Carman Bulldog]

So Shadeur is the 14th quarterback in Browns 2.0 history. Here are the thirteen players that came before him, with career starts in parentheses:

1999 - Round 1 - Tim Couch (59)
2000 - Round 6 - Spergon Wynn (3)
2004 - Round 4 - Luke McCown (10)
2005 - Round 3 - Charlie Frye (23)
2007 - Round 1 - Brady Quinn (20)
2010 - Round 3 - Colt McCoy (36)
2012 - Round 1 - Brandon Weeden (25)
2014 - Round 1 - Johnny Manziel (8)
2016 - Round 3 - Cody Kessler (12)
2017 - Round 2 - DeShone Kizer (15)
2018 - Round 1 - Baker Mayfield (103)
2023 - Round 5 - Dorian Thompson-Robinson (5)
2025 - Round 3 - Dillon Gabriel (0)

Where do we project Sanders will rank on this list by the end of his career? Obviously Baker is number one. It may be recency bias, but I'm inclined to rank Colt ahead of Couch. Despite having few starts, McCoy stuck around the NFL for 13 years. That says something about to me about how the league values a player. Couch was cut after five seasons and couldn't stick on elsewhere as a backup.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

So Shadeur is the 14th quarterback in Browns 2.0 history. Here are the thirteen players that came before him, with career starts in parentheses:

1999 - Round 1 - Tim Couch (59)
2000 - Round 6 - Spergon Wynn (3)
2004 - Round 4 - Luke McCown (10)
2005 - Round 3 - Charlie Frye (23)
2007 - Round 1 - Brady Quinn (20)
2010 - Round 3 - Colt McCoy (36)
2012 - Round 1 - Brandon Weeden (25)
2014 - Round 1 - Johnny Manziel (8)
2016 - Round 3 - Cody Kessler (12)
2017 - Round 2 - DeShone Kizer (15)
2018 - Round 1 - Baker Mayfield (103)
2023 - Round 5 - Dorian Thompson-Robinson (5)
2025 - Round 3 - Dillon Gabriel (0)

Where do we project Sanders will rank on this list by the end of his career? Obviously Baker is number one. It may be recency bias, but I'm inclined to rank Colt ahead of Couch. Despite having few starts, McCoy stuck around the NFL for 13 years. That says something about to me about how the league values a player. Couch was cut after five seasons and couldn't stick on elsewhere as a backup.

Even more hysterical is the Browns dumped the one guy on this list who is actully any good to get Watson.

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

Value pick by the Browns?

Jimmy Haslem ordered it.

The Browns’ reaction to the Shedeur Sanders pick was ... subdued [VIDEO] - SBNation.com..

[JonInMiddleGA]

Graham Mertz getting drafted might just be one of the surest signs of what an absolutely void of offensive talent draft class this really is.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

New term for when a player slips in the draft:

shadeurfreude

HOHOHOHOOHOHOHOHOHOHO! That is brilliant. YOu win today's internet

I am seriously shocked that he has not been taken yet.
Does anyone have transcripts of things he said in the news and interviews?

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Trump putting the NFL owners on blast for not drafting Sanders in the first round makes his continued slide all the more hilarious.

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WHAT???