Trump's Immigration Reform

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Amazing how a guy who posted 20 times a day saying this wouldn’t happen is now a ghost once proven wrong over and over again

I’m still not entirely convinced it’s not an elaborate bot of some sort. Pardon me while I put my tin foil hat back on.

[Fidatelo]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Amazing how a guy who posted 20 times a day saying this wouldn’t happen is now a ghost once proven wrong over and over again

100x this. What a clown. Hope he finds a good deal on a 216" TV soon, though.

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

In fairness, it's really on the baby for not stashing their birth certificate in the side pocket of their diaper.

That's what that slot is for? Why does no one tell me anything?!

[JPhillips]

Pretty comfortable with demanding my Chinese daughter carry her passport card every time she leaves her room.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

I've tried to tell my mom not to go out unless she has to. Her dad came from Mexico in the 1910s and her mom was "born" in El Paso but ended up in Illinois back then. Hell, I'm basically illegal based on these fuck sticks' logic.

Bringing in some thoughts on autism from the other thread...we talked to our kids about what to say if someone approaches them. Both their parents were born here, but two grandparents born in India, which is enough to make them look...something. A few weeks later, we reviewed, and our 15 year old son who's autistic (although he will have a job and pay taxes, can use the bathroom by himself, but spot on about not dating, good call) said he would say "I came here legally" -- and we're like "no, you say you were born here and you're a US citizen." A week later we went over it again, and he was like, "but I *did* come here legally" -- he knows he was born here, I think it's just that when he's speaking, he doesn't think the difference in word choice is important.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Pretty comfortable with demanding my Chinese daughter carry her passport card every time she leaves her room.

Just have to hope the guy with a 70 IQ who couldn't meet the extremely low standards of being a police officer decides that the passport is enough.

[cuervo72]

‘We’re citizens!’: Oklahoma City family traumatized after ICE raids home, but they weren’t suspects

OKLAHOMA CITY (KFOR) — A woman says her family’s fresh start in Oklahoma turned into a nightmare after federal immigration agents raided their home, taking their phones, laptops, and life savings – even though they were not the suspects the agents were looking for.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

‘We’re citizens!’: Oklahoma City family traumatized after ICE raids home, but they weren’t suspects

OKLAHOMA CITY (KFOR) — A woman says her family’s fresh start in Oklahoma turned into a nightmare after federal immigration agents raided their home, taking their phones, laptops, and life savings – even though they were not the suspects the agents were looking for.

“I said, ‘when are we going to get our stuff back?’ They said it could be days or it could be months,” she said.

but according to Edward isn't this how it is supposed to work? Everything will be OK because they are citizens.

[Lathum]

Been 25 days since Edward last posted in here. I wonder why

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Been 25 days since Edward last posted in here. I wonder why

Either someone pulled the power on his PSU or maybe ICE found out he didn’t turn in the illegal immigrants that built his house and he’s in El Salvador now.

[Flasch186]

He’s literally busy moving the goal posts

The biggest move ever


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[Edward64]

Still here, enjoying travelling overseas.

As mentioned somewhere else, having issues with my laptop connecting with IHG wireless, so have to keep things short with my iphone & ipad (e.g. takes much more effort to doublecheck, quote stuff, counter arguments etc. in the Immigration thread with all the stuff going on).

As always, look forward to engaging all of you in illegal/legal immigration discussion at a later date.

[flere-imsaho]

Undocumented immigrants paid $96B in taxes in 2022: Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants – ITEP

Tesla paid no taxes in 2022 and 2024, and $48M in 2023: https://itep.org/tesla-reported-zero-federal-income-tax-in-2024/#:~:text=Elon%20Musk's%20company%20avoided%20almost,federal%20income%20tax%20last%20year.

Also: The Secret IRS Files: Trove of Never-Before-Seen Records Reveal How the Wealthiest Avoid Income Tax — ProPublica

Immigrants are totally the problem, though.

[cuervo72]

Masked, armed ICE agents arrest two men in Great Barrington apartment building as witnesses taunt, shoot video | Breaking | berkshireeagle.com

Percent chance these “federal agents” are hired militia members?

[GrantDawg]

"We will remove two year olds from their families, but we can't seperate the head of a Cartel's family. That would be cruel."


Mexican security chief confirms cartel family members entered US in a deal with Trump administration | AP News

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Edward64

As always, look forward to engaging all of you in illegal/legal immigration discussion at a later date.

Trying to figure out if this 2 year old was one of those hardened criminals we hear so much about.

Toddler held in US after parents’ deportation has been returned to Venezuela | CNN

[jcard]

It would be nice if the President was one-tenth as concerned with how he deports himself…

[Atocep]

It looks like SCOTUS wants to put limits on or provide guidelines on when a lower court can issue nationwide injunctions. It doesn't sound to me like the birthright citizenship EO has a chance in hell of standing.

[Ghost Econ]

I'd be willing to bet the admin spins it as a win and starts deporting citizens anyway because the Supremes and Congress would do nothing. Seriously if I could get odds I'd put up all the proceeds of my recent house sale.

[GrantDawg]

W....T.....F...?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kristi...-reality-show/

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[Lathum]

Running Man type shit. Totally dystopian. ( I would totally watch)

[RainMaker]

It's all just cosplay and influencer shit for these folks. When asked to produce a budget or anything that relates to the job they have no answer.

[GrantDawg]

Trump is given a big Supreme Court loss, with only Thomas and Alito dissenting. The Court says there must be "especially robust" due process before removal if they can't be retrieved after they are removed.
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...24a1007-order/

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[Atocep]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Trump is given a big Supreme Court loss, with only Thomas and Alito dissenting. The Court says there must be "especially robust" due process before removal if they can't be retrieved after they are removed.
24A1007 Order | DocumentCloud

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I feel sorry for the guy that has to clean up the ketchup packets.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Trump is given a big Supreme Court loss, with only Thomas and Alito dissenting. The Court says there must be "especially robust" due process before removal if they can't be retrieved after they are removed.
24A1007 Order | DocumentCloud

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We really need to remove those two corrupt justices at this point. I don’t give a shit who replaces them. Let Trump pick replacements but those two are not fulfilling the job they were given at this point.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by dubb93

We really need to remove those two corrupt justices at this point. I don’t give a shit who replaces them. Let Trump pick replacements but those two are not fulfilling the job they were given at this point.

It's pretty wild how transparent they have become.

[flere-imsaho]

I'm hoping one of the justices writes an opinion on the birthright citizenship case that says:

"Birthright citizenship is guaranteed by the 14th amendment. If you want to change it, pass an amendment. Otherwise, stop wasting this court's time."

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by dubb93

We really need to remove those two corrupt justices at this point. I don’t give a shit who replaces them. Let Trump pick replacements but those two are not fulfilling the job they were given at this point.

It's entertaining how many on the right want ACB removed from the bench because they expected her to be like those two.

[flere-imsaho]

And, to be clear, ACB should be nowhere near SCOTUS, in the first place.

[RainMaker]

How many forms of ID do you need?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...source=twitter

[flere-imsaho]

New Cato Analysis: 50+ Venezuelans Imprisoned in El Salvador came to US Legally — Never Violated Immigration Law

A subsequent CBS News investigation found that 75 percent of the men on that list had no criminal record in the United States or abroad. Less attention has been paid to the fact that dozens of these men never violated immigration laws either.

The US government not only denied these men due process; it has also generally failed to provide their families, their attorneys, or the public any information about what it alleges these men did to deserve incarceration in El Salvador.

Most, at least 42, were labeled as gang members primarily based on their tattoos, which Venezuelan gangs do not use to identify members and are not reliable indicators of gang membership. According to court documents, DHS created a checklist to determine that heavily weights “dressing” like a gang member, using “gang signs,” and, most critically, tattoos. No criminal conviction, arrest, or even witness testimony is required.

DHS’s images of “TdA tattoos” include the Jordan logo, an AK-47, a train, a crown, “hijos,” “HJ,” a star, a clock, and a gas mask. But as the American Immigration Council’s Aaron Reichlin Melnick has shown, all of these supposed TdA tattoos were not taken from Venezuelan gang members but rather stolen by DHS from social media accounts that have nothing to do with TdA or Venezuela. For instance, DHS obtained its TdA “Jordan” from a Michael Jordan fan account in the United States. It pulled its AK-47 tattoo from a Turkish tattoo artist.

Originally Posted by Edward64

We'll agree to disagree. I'm willing to undergo some inconvenience to reduce illegal invasion.

[Flasch186]

That last quote is awesome


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[Lathum]

And just how much inconvenience has Edward endured personally.

[Atocep]

"I'm willing to suffer as long as someone else suffers more" is the GOP motto.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

How many forms of ID do you need?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...source=twitter

A U.S.-born citizen

U.S. citizen wasn't enough or is there another reason we separating out those who are native born and those who are naturalized?

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Lathum

And just how much inconvenience has Edward endured personally.

A person with dark skin was ahead of him in line at the grocery store.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

A person with dark skin was ahead of him in line at the grocery store.

Probably the guy who just put his roof on.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Edward64

I think I understand what you are saying. Instead of your original statement

You really meant to say

Otherwise, your "full control of our immigration policies" makes little sense other than in your la-la land. For instance, what does our immigration action vs the Canada tattoo artist, or the German "I missed my court date" have anything to do with Israel?

But if you really meant your original, then your link doesn't support your position. I read it a couple times, if I'm wrong, post the article quote that supports "full control of our immigration policies (not limited to Palestine/Lebanon).

nytimes.com

The secretary of state’s order comes as President Trump is trying to coerce Harvard University and other institutions to restrict what can be said on campuses, with a particular focus on anti-Israel speech.

No wonder you bolted from this thread. Spent a couple months making moronic statements that blew up in your face.

[PilotMan]

This is totally normal for the USA. Very, very normal way we treat visitors.



‘I’m not a criminal’: Military wife detained, deported at Honolulu airport

tldr; she was put in cuffs, held overnight in prison (not at the airport), her husband wasn't notified, and she was deported the next day back Down Under. All on the suspicion that she 'might' overstay her visa. All her belongings were searched, phone included, and she was given a cavity search.

All totally, totally normal.

[RainMaker]

Have a feeling the World Cup and Olympics are going to be a shitshow.

[Ghost Econ]

Just wait until they start detaining foreign pilots

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Have a feeling the World Cup and Olympics are going to be a shitshow.

Yeah they should get out front of it first, take legal action so those coming for those events are not subject to ICE arrests/interorgation, etc. Because you know that some potential gold medal winner will be detained if for no other reason that they are not American.

[Passacaglia]

Wait a minute, if it actually was about Skittles the whole time, what are we doing here?

Skittles confirms it's removed controversial whitening agent from candy recipe | Fox News

[kingfc22]

Skittles causes autism or makes you trans. One of those two is the likeliest explanations

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Skittles causes autism or makes you trans. One of those two is the likeliest explanations

"Taste the rainbow" - pretty obvious which of those it is. Although wait, a rainbow is a spectrum, too, so I guess it could be either one

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Skittles causes autism or makes you trans. One of those two is the likeliest explanations

Studies have shown that heroine makes you Secretary of Health.

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Studies have shown that heroine makes you Secretary of Health.

That and swimming in raw sewage.

[RainMaker]

More brain drain. This time with folks who will now have a substantial beef and hatred toward the United Stats. What could possibly go wrong?
nytimes.com

[RainMaker]

Like Edward said, Israel is not controlling our immigration policy.

Criticize Israel? No visa for you says Rubio! pic.twitter.com/SzEj6VovdO

— Bilal Abdul Kareem (@BilalKareem) May 29, 2025

[Edward64]

I'm back in good old USA and will be going through this thread to post my responses shortly.