2025 NFL Offseason/Free Agency/Draft thread

[bhlloy]

The guy that all these high upside physical freak QBs are supposed to be Josh Allen had a 56% completion percentage and threw 21 picks in two and half seasons in the MWC.

I don’t disagree with your premise though. There just isn’t the time or patience to develop a QB in today’s NFL. Trey Lance was picked second overall, got hurt, has thrown 140 odd passes in various good and bad situations and is totally washed at 25 years old. If you aren’t it halfway through your rookie year, you might be done. Interesting to see if Bryce Young can buck that trend I guess.

[JPhillips]

The overall evaluation for a QB seems pretty easy, can he win a Super Bowl. If the answer to that is, no, you need to play for the draft. Especially in the AFC right now.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

The guy that all these high upside physical freak QBs are supposed to be Josh Allen had a 56% completion percentage and threw 21 picks in two and half seasons in the MWC.

I don’t disagree with your premise though. There just isn’t the time or patience to develop a QB in today’s NFL. Trey Lance was picked second overall, got hurt, has thrown 140 odd passes in various good and bad situations and is totally washed at 25 years old. If you aren’t it halfway through your rookie year, you might be done. Interesting to see if Bryce Young can buck that trend I guess.

Yeah teams aren't as patient and the reason, at least partly, is that coaches and GMs have a 3-4 year window to show something or they're fired. The time isn't there to invest in most of these projects.

Lance and Richardson were both really bad picks though. Richardson had a single season as a starter and Lance was a single read QB playing in a very simple system at a lower level. Both needed either more time in college but but going top 5 is impossible to turn down. Every time a guy gets drafted and turns out to be a 1 of 1 type of guy, NFL teams waste a ton of money and draft picks trying to find the next one.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

The overall evaluation for a QB seems pretty easy, can he win a Super Bowl. If the answer to that is, no, you need to play for the draft. Especially in the AFC right now.

Did we know Josh Allen could win a Super Bowl after 2 years when he hadn’t come close to breaking 60% completion rate and had 30 TD to 21 Int?

That’s the point, because today’s QBs aren’t getting that long to prove themselves. It’s like they want to find an Allen but aren’t willing to actually give them the time he needed to show they can be him.

And that’s not to say Lance and Richardson weren’t bad picks, although watching Lance I’m not totally sure there isn’t something there if a team was willing to struggle and let him develop for 18 months. But it just makes zero sense to pick these kinds of players and then move on if they don’t look like a Super Bowl QBs in their first 6 months, because it’s obvious they aren’t.

[RainMaker]

Wasn't Allen's college stats bad because he played in a place that is notoriously difficult to throw the ball? There is like a wind storm for every game I've ever seen in Laramie.

[JPhillips]

I have no idea if Richardson can develop, but if the Colts have decided he can't I don't know why they would then move to Jones. He can win enough to get them out of the top five picks, but I can't see any way he gets them to the playoffs.

[RainMaker]

Guessing a coach and maybe GM trying to save their jobs. Also at some point you just have to accept a player doesnt have it and go with the best option.

[dubb93]

I mean compare Allen’s year one stats to year two and you can eliminate most of these Josh Allen opinions straight up. I mean if any QB goes from 2k yards with 10tds ans 12 picks to 3k+ with 20 and 9 and improve the completion percentage by 6% they getting a third year right? Year three Allen was at 4.5k and nearly 40 TDs to 10 picks. Do we really think Allen didn’t show year by year improvement?

[JPhillips]

I don't understand why the Browns were giving Huntley reps the day before they released him when they have two rookie QBs.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

I don't understand why the Browns . . .

Evergreen

[albionmoonlight]

Cutdown day always makes me think of a story that Chase Daniel told on a podcast:

He talked about how weird it was to be on the bubble. You have to just act like everything is normal. You come to the facility, and you're lifting and you're looking at film, and you are planning to go into week 1. But you also might be five minutes away from being cut.

I never quite thought of that. It is one thing to get cut. But having to do something as intense as prepare for an NFL season while knowing in the back of your head that it might end before lunch is kind of insane.

[Passacaglia]

Can anyone here suggest a good weekly recap show for NFL games (and for college for that matter)?

[cuervo72]

"The Washington Commanders and cornerstone wide receiver Terry McLaurin agreed on a three-year contract extension.

McLaurin’s extension will pay him $96 million with the chance to escalate, making him one of the highest-paid wideouts in the NFL."

Thoughts on this? I know there's been some local handwringing on the thought that McLaurin might not have been available for the Commanders, but my general idea of him as a WR has been that he's...ok? Yes, 1,000 yard seasons but also, we're in the 2020's so *yawn*.

[Danny]

Good WR, not elite and will be overpaid. But with Daniels on his rookie deal you 100% have to sign his #1 WR. His contract will expire when you have to pay the QB so it works out ok.